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> 50 days as needed. Another way money could come in was by initiating large building projects. As with tournaments this would first drain the coffers but with the influx of laborers, masons, and carpenters, as well as pilgrims if the building is a sizable cathedral, the lord would eventually make back much more in taxes than they spent. While the lord himself might not make it, the dynasty would benefit from the income. As to the knighting I don't know how it was handled in Austria but I believe anyone count or above could knight another. Maybe knights could do this as well. I haven't looked at medieval history in a while. Yes, I intended to have family prestige also play a role in the RP, either for won battles, being patron of the arts, large projects like building cathedrals, members of the family in high places, etc. This would in turn come profitable when it comes to royal marriages with domestic and foreign high ranking noble families as well as getting higher titles, so a noble house with a lot of prestige is more likely to get some fief that was recently conquered, and a member of a prestigious family can marry into very powerful families from the outside, either ruling dynasties of powerful counties like Hungary, France, or Dukes of HRE states, etc. There will be a chance of inheriting their lands, but the stronger the noble house lesser the chance of inheritance.
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> The 50 days, obviously during a long war they may be enlisted longer, would be as and when their lord called them up. And so a Knight would only receive pay for the days they were called up, the rest of the year they live on the taxes from their small fief and whatever other activities they took part in. Many tried to marry rich heiresses for the wealth. And with the Knighting I BELIEVE (Though I may, and am happy to, be wrong) was carried out by anyone who carried a title higher than a knight's, so someone who had land to give as a fief. Cool. I like that. Here's another idea: castles can be owned by the Duke, Counts and Burgraves, larger towns can be owned by them as well but also by Lords while knights can only manage villages and the surrounding land that belongs to the village. Patricians and Edlers could be awarded villages to manage as well, though they will mostly be landless nobility. They can profit from trade, own bakeries, breweries, inns, etc. Technically, knights owning whole villages is a bit ahistorical, correct? But I simply do not know a better way to divide fiefs in accordance to titles. If you guys have better ideas I'm listening.
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Not ahistorical actually. Everything within a knights realm of control was his property. If that included village, so be it.
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> Not ahistorical actually. Everything within a knights realm of control was his property. If that included village, so be it. I thought knights would get a piece of arable land, not an entire village to manage? But that's even better then. Do you guys think this is going too much into details?
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> > Not ahistorical actually. Everything within a knights realm of control was his property. If that included village, so be it. > > I thought knights would get a piece of arable land, not an entire village to manage? But that's even better then. Do you guys think this is going too much into details? Probably
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As long as it generates discussion.
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> > > Not ahistorical actually. Everything within a knights realm of control was his property. If that included village, so be it. > > > > I thought knights would get a piece of arable land, not an entire village to manage? But that's even better then. Do you guys think this is going too much into details? > > Probably We don't need to have it perfectly accurate. Different areas operated differently so it's not too important.
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I think the most detailed part is the economic part, but to be fair we need it the most for the RP to work. It's the only constant and everything else throughout the Roleplay can/ will be changed. That's why I think it's mandatory to lay it down thoroughly. It's pretty much the foundation of everything else. Don't worry though, it's not as complicated as I made it sound here in the comments. I will take more time to explain it better when I start the RP. All information will be available and easily understandable once the official RP thread is opened sometime next week.
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So we are the Margraviate of Nordgau?
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> So we are the Margraviate of Nordgau? Probably going to make it a duchy as Margraviate is a bordering province meaning it's part of some larger entity. As for the name, I'm not sure yet. Isn't Nordgau north of Bavaria? Our country is in Lower Austria. It's the purple one just under Bohemia on the big map I uploaded on the second page.
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I have the presentiment that once and if the IC starts, we're going to annihilate each other slyly and mercilessly xP
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I have the presentiment that once and if the IC starts, we're going to annihilate each other slyly and mercilessly xP
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I wouldn't have it any other way ;)
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I have the presentiment that once and if the IC starts, we're going to annihilate each other slyly and mercilessly xP
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Unless the big man in charge steps in and stops us.
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Unless the big man in charge steps in and stops us.
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Political maneuvering was a common factor. Houses would rise and fall often. If your destroyed you can always act as a mercenary. Still in the RP, simply reduced in power as a result of various factors.
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Unless the big man in charge steps in and stops us.
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Political maneuvering was a common factor. Houses would rise and fall often. If your destroyed you can always act as a mercenary. Still in the RP, simply reduced in power as a result of various factors.
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Sorry, I had to do something stupid before starting my homework.
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'Slyly' this ;)
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'Slyly' this ;)
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If that is what we lords will be able to do to each other then our monarch will have a little less control than you would hope??? :)
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'Slyly' this ;)
Durandal
If that is what we lords will be able to do to each other then our monarch will have a little less control than you would hope??? :)
gowia
I think the monarch will be able to do this x10.
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touche...
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'Slyly' this ;)
Durandal
If that is what we lords will be able to do to each other then our monarch will have a little less control than you would hope??? :)
gowia
I think the monarch will be able to do this x10.
rush99999
Doubt it. Would need a country at least five times our original size to have the manpower to be able to siege a city of that magnitude. Maybe if the Roleplay lasts long enough we can get to that point and siege cities like Rome, Paris, Vienna etc. As for royal houses duking it out, I guess you will just have to find the right time to do so. The up side is, if the monarch is powerless to stop the conflict for whatever reason then I will be forced to acknowledge the outcome of the conflict. On the downside, you might lose the head of your royal family as a consequence of the war. If that happens I will only be able to punish those members that were directly involved.
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