[OOC] Heroes of Beacon - the Next Chapter

[Ookawa]

If Skyra should get wind of it, you will have an anti-friend. For sure. Faunus rights movement and all that.

[Forsythe]

Oswald would just straight-up try to kill her. Make sure he never finds out.

@MULTI_MEDIA_MAN

that puts him in exactly the same category. He ain't the judge.

[Lady Seraphina]

Another problem is that at the moment her cannibalism is a secret and while it is she doesn't see a problem with it. This would seem to suggest that she would only seek redemption after people found out which means she doesn't actually care about redemption but cares what people think of her

[MULTI_MEDIA_MAN]

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that puts him in exactly the same category. He ain't the judge.

@Forsythe

Oswald has little regard for the consequences. You may have noticed, but he is neither smart, nor does he plan ahead very well.

[harinezumikouken]

Of course, Shiro would try to help her :D

[MULTI_MEDIA_MAN]

Of course, Shiro would try to help her :D

@harinezumikouken

Part of me hopes that Oswald never finds out, but part of me wants everyone to band together and try to convince him to not go murderous on her.

You'd need a good god damned speech, though.

[Jangel13]

@Lugubrious

Just letting you know that I'm just waiting on multi to finish putting up the collaboration before posting

[Crimmy]

I'll be continuing Gratia's wacky hijinks with Napoli when Onarax comes online.

And hoping that Vega turns up too.

[Ookawa]

I feel so unimportant here xD

[harinezumikouken]

I feel so unimportant here xD

@PyroDash888

Don't. You are important. Everyone is.

[Sho Minazuki]

This is informative by the way. A few of these are relevant to the issue with Mokuren and her cannibalism too.

@KabenSaal Well no one would've known that, not to mention once they find out you kill people AND eat them, 'helping you' is the least of what they'll think about if you don't show any kind of remorse or make a plea for help, because people will simply think you're a bloodthirsty hound.

Think of it this way. If you were to meet your character in the dead of night, personally, and she was feasting on some poor soul's body, what would you realistically think? You'd be horrified, you'd fear for your own life as if she were to turn on you and eat you too. You would seek help to have her subdued or even killed.

The way it's going, no one's going to find out unless we set it up and predetermine it or if some innocent stumbles upon her feasting and a witch hunt is called, she's going to have to reach out to someone herself.

To top this complication all off, Faunus don't actually eat other people, and cannibalism is a serious thing and doesn't quite fit in RWBY's thematic setting either. So you're in violation of making this more difficult and complicated than it has to be, and that Faunus really, really, do not eat people, even if they're tied closely to animals.

I went back and was baffled as to how you slipped this past the GMs, but reading your character sheet, you do not mention cannibalism anywhere, so basically your character shouldn't even be a cannibal according to your character sheet.

So I guess that adds a third violation of withholding information from your character sheet.

This can be resolved fairly reasonably, the easiest solution would be to just get rid of the cannibalism outright, because I don't see any point in keeping it. Unless you can justify to me why cannibalism is an important character trait that enriches her character, history, personality, and the world of RWBY, I suggest you just get rid of it and just make Mokuren a slightly (or significantly) violent Faunus. I think that would be easiest. If you want to enrich your character, cannibalism is not the way to go. There is no meaning behind it. No reason. And it only brings unwarranted fear that would drive many to have you killed instead of let you redeem yourself.

Now, when I mentioned this months back it was never resolved, so I would like resolution this time around. It was mentioned but completely overlooked. Seeing as Mokuren is in my team, it concerns me, because this cannibalism not only makes it difficult to interact with her, it alienates her from the rest of the team in a way that EVEN IF ME, SUKU AND SNOW WERE TO METAGAME, we would not be able to help her come to some kind of resolution. That's how bad it is. No one here can relate with cannibalism, no one of our characters can help with cannibalism, and I'd be worried if you yourself were able to relate with cannibalism.

[Forsythe]

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Part of me hopes that Oswald never finds out, but part of me wants everyone to band together and try to convince him to not go murderous on her.

You'd need a good god damned speech, though.

@MULTI_MEDIA_MAN

Or a tranq dart :D

[Ookawa]

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Don't. You are important. Everyone is.

@harinezumikouken

Give me time. I'll make myself important... or at least worth mentioning :P

[KabenSaal]

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[KabenSaal]

But, in all seriousness, I do see the flaws in this now. Just removing it makes it feel a bit to much retconny, so why not have it like, a realistic delusion that she is eating people - one that she believes is happening, even when others around her can see that there is nothing there - instead of actually doing the do. That could give the whole, recovery thing without the disgust and murder of the actual deed.

[harinezumikouken]

But, in all seriousness, I do see the flaws in this now. Just removing it makes it feel a bit to much retconny, so why not have it like, a realistic delusion that she is eating people - one that she believes is happening, even when others around her can see that there is nothing there - instead of actually doing the do. That could give the whole, recovery thing without the disgust and murder of the actual deed.

@KabenSaal

A compromise.

[shadowkiller912]

@Crimmy
@Onarax
@Abillioncats

Posted IC! Did you see the new picture of Sarina? (All credit goes to [@Sho Minzazuki] for drawing it.

[Forsythe]

@KabenSaalNow I kind of want to stumble upon 'Mokuren crouching alone in a dark corner over nothing going 'OM NOM NOM' xD

[Lady Seraphina]

But, in all seriousness, I do see the flaws in this now. Just removing it makes it feel a bit to much retconny, so why not have it like, a realistic delusion that she is eating people - one that she believes is happening, even when others around her can see that there is nothing there - instead of actually doing the do. That could give the whole, recovery thing without the disgust and murder of the actual deed.

@KabenSaal

Well in all seriousness not one of the main characters has actually become aware of Mokuren's cannibalism. The only points we actually see it in is that last post where she ate a rapist and a couple of previous ones where she thinks about her craving to eat flesh. Since it hasn't entered into the story proper it wouldn't be all that difficult to go back and edit it completely out of that last post and change it in the previous ones for some sort of lust for violence as opposed to flesh. It only really becomes retcon when you have to ask other people to edit out of there posts which at the moment isn't exactly a problem.

[MULTI_MEDIA_MAN]

But, in all seriousness, I do see the flaws in this now. Just removing it makes it feel a bit to much retconny, so why not have it like, a realistic delusion that she is eating people - one that she believes is happening, even when others around her can see that there is nothing there - instead of actually doing the do. That could give the whole, recovery thing without the disgust and murder of the actual deed.

@KabenSaal

That.....makes this surprisingly more complex, and would totally change things. I like it!