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Hidden 9 yrs ago Post by Lugubrious
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I will allow Mokuren to keep her cannibalism as long as it becomes a rarer occurrence and not every post, or even every other post. An exception, rather than the rule. Give her other personality bits a time to shine too. I remember her interacting with Shiro at one point in class and thinking 'hey, there is more to this character than eating people.'

Hopefully this will help the both of you.
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@Kabensaal @Sho Minazuki
I will allow Mokuren to keep her cannibalism as long as it becomes a rarer occurrence and not every post, or even every other post. An exception, rather than the rule. Give her other personality bits a time to shine too. I remember her interacting with Shiro at one point in class and thinking 'hey, there is more to this character than eating people.'

Hopefully this will help the both of you.



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@Kabensaal @Sho Minazuki
I will allow Mokuren to keep her cannibalism as long as it becomes a rarer occurrence and not every post, or even every other post. An exception, rather than the rule. Give her other personality bits a time to shine too. I remember her interacting with Shiro at one point in class and thinking 'hey, there is more to this character than eating people.'

Hopefully this will help the both of you.


To be honest, my opinion still is, that eating people is a very very very major plot hole. Nobody in the entire cast will be able to find out, otherwise the character might as well be dead.
I'm very fine with mental disorders and stuff like that, but actual lunacy doesn't necessarily enhance a character.
I mean, I don't really see why the cannibalism would even matter, if the cast won't be able to find out without destroying the character.

Just my two cents, I had to, sorry.
Hidden 9 yrs ago Post by Sho Minazuki
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As said by Pyro. Exactly.

We've said it before, I doubt Ozpin or anyone would be comfortable with it unless they sought redemption. Not to mention Faunus DO NOT ACTUALLY EAT PEOPLE. I am absolutely sure they would suffer the same consequences, physically, legally, and mentally, from eating people.

An exception is also lazy, it doesn't address the problem, it only ignores it. This RP is now in the memory of Monty Oum, so I suggest we try and keep it to the world written for all the fans to admire and play on. Adhere to the rules set by the creator so to speak.
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It's not because she's a faunus, though. It's because she's legitimately insane. The only reason she hasn't been stuck in a straightjacket and thrown behind barns is because she's been hiding it well.

If the excuse all this time was that it's because she's a faunus, then that's bullcrap, not usable.

Since she's going to be sent to an asylum or worse if this ever gets out, if Kaben wants to continue playing Mokuren, he won't ever be able to reveal her secret to any fellow students. And the cannibalism will only ever exist because Kaben thinks its fun, not for enhancement or interaction or anything.

My allowing it to be an exception is the only thing that allows it to exist. If it keeps coming up with such regularity, it's going to get discovered (potentially by GM powers), and Mokuren's going either to a sanitorium or into the ground. I'm allowing it to exist, but by existing in a capacity where everyone can continue to RP normally, it's essentially meaningless.
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Alright @Kabensaal you need to start making some decisions regarding your character. Now the two options that you have shown interest in are her continuing in the RP as a cannibal or alternatively having delusions of being a cannibal. I must be honest, neither of these are going to serve you well in the long run. I am perfectly aware of what it is like to create something that seems like a good idea at the time and realize that it doesn't function properly later. It's not fun and I can't imagine having half the caste demand that you alter aspects of your character is in any way enjoyable.

That being said I do have to be honest. Murder and cannibalism are not taken lightly anywhere. Especially at an academy that trains for lack of a better phrase specialized super cops. At some point the cannibalism will have to come into the light otherwise there is no point in having it as part of the character. When that time comes you may get some sympathy from the squishy characters like Shiro but the vast majority of the school will be calling for your head.

If we alter it to having delusions of cannibalism the problems aren't exactly unrelated. Again it must at some point come into the light or it is purposeless. When that time comes you likely will get a bit more sympathy since a mental condition is not something that Mokuren can control. However sympathetic the populous is the end result is going to be that most of the student body and I would imagine a large number of the teachers would wish Mokuren removed to a psychiatric facility equipped to deal with her problems. A delusional person is a very dangerous thing, if they believe themselves to be doing something like say murder it is not a leap to the point where they will actually commit the crime. Mentally they are already capable of that kind of violence and desecration. The right circumstances could easily push them into doing it for real.

Think about why you want cannibalism as a part of your character and if the answer is for the simple reason that "you like it" or "it makes Mokuren unique" then scrap it. It's not doing anything for her character that couldn't be accomplished in other ways. You could even keep the addiction angle of the story. Except rather than human flesh make is something more mundane, RWBY version of heroine.

Also @Sho Minazuki I should bring this up because you keep saying it in caps on this issue and it's getting sort of annoying. People can be driven to eat other people, it's sad but it happens. The same could easily happen to faunus, Mokuren doesn't eat people cause she's a faunus, she eats people for some undisclosed psychological reason that could just as easily apply to a human. Not saying I'm not on your side but that argument doesn't actually do anything for your case.

Also @Kabensaal something to think about. Eating raw flesh can cause all manor of illnesses. Several of them psychological and degenerative, and fatal. Something to think about while making your choice.
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Then what about Beacon as a whole then? I sincerely doubt Mokuren can hide this from Ozpin of all people. What in Mokuren's experience would allow her the skills to allude Ozpin? I'm pretty sure psyche checks are normal too, and background checks, before joining Beacon. This is my main point. It's a huge flaw and seriously undermines the abilities of some characters.

The fact that Kaben has not returned to speak for himself tells me he is also unsure of this and finds it easier to let it be swept under the rug and ignored to blend in amongst the quantity of players and characters we have here. This is why I seek resolution, not exception. This gets resolved now before it gets out, it'll be better for all of us, including Kaben.

I am willing for one easier solution that lets Mokuren keep the cannibalism, and that is that the character is seeking to change these ways. The reasoning will be that Ozpin has allowed Mokuren to try and help her rehabilitate. That is all. I require the confirmation of Kaben for this, and sadly he has not returned.

AND YES. I fully understand I am being a little annoying (or majorly) at the moment so I do apologize. But that's actually Kaben's fault for not trying to resolve this. Instead he has run and made this messier than it should be.
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It's not the number of arguments that your putting forth. I don't have the problem with that. The annoying thing was that you kept saying FAUNUS DON'T EAT PEOPLE. Which is just untrue since under the right circumstances a faunus could easily eat a person just as another person could eat a person.

I don't really think it'll matter if Mokuren is trying to change or not. Well no that's not true. It would make a great deal of difference in how this goes down but I do believe the end result of her either being dead or placed in an asylum would be unavoidable. There are simply to many characters in the RP that would not tolerate a cannibal on campus.
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Dude, just cause Kaben isn't here doesn't mean he's run off. He may, surprisingly enough, have things to do offline. And you being a dick about it isn't exactly giving him an nice incentive to come back, since as it stands you're the only one causing a fuss about it. Yeah, I get it, cannibalism is a pretty damn serious thing to deal with. But don't start acting like the executioner before the judges make their calls. And it seems like they already did.
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Check his post history. He posted in the last hour or two, and is consistently posting elsewhere too.
Hidden 9 yrs ago Post by Lugubrious
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And is antagonizing him about it going to entice him to come and resolve this issue more or less? Leave off for now. Once he looks at our responses, he'll say what he thinks is the best option, and we can haggle from there. But getting mad at him for avoiding the issue will not serve us.
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@Sho Minazuki

Didn't I just tell you to chill?

I'm pretty sure I just told you to chill.

Holy shit, dude.
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sorry I been late in posting been travelling and it took longer than expected. I will have a post up soon sorry for the delay people.
Hidden 9 yrs ago 9 yrs ago Post by Sho Minazuki
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Fine, but I don't forget either.

Normally I'm okay with people making insane characters, but cannibalism is a very, very serious thing.

EDIT: Oh, do you guys need an art teacher?

Also that Credits system in the Google document. Does anyone actually abide by that?
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There's taking an RP seriously.

There's taking an RP too seriously.

Then there's this.
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Not actually here yet. Just jumped on for, a few minutes because I saw the...mishiver yesterday but it was 5am so I couldn't really do much to reply snce it would take a while. All I can think right now is Nuke the Whales, and/or Recite the Clone Protocol. I have to go dog sitting now, but I will get a post up with my own personal thoughts since saying something when you have nothing to say seems to be demanded right now.
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Snow I do realize you're a little annoyed but your passive aggressiveness does you no credit.

But again, I haven't seen any usage of the Credit system.

And good to see you back Kaben. It's better it be solved now than later when it's harder to change things. Respond when you have gathered your thoughts.
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Though I haven't really been here long, your dogged pursuit of the cannibalism thing makes you seem like Ahab chasing his white whale, while we're all Ishmael along for the ride. It's not really that big of an issue to keep fussing about with such intensity.
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I mentioned it once before, it was talked about a bit and then dropped with no resolution and many believed at the time it was a problem. We thought it'd be a tiny thing, but now it's become clear it'll be a pretty big problem later. Kaben's been liberally having Mokuren eat people without repercussion. While we are roleplaying our own fictional characters in a fictional world, that does not bring cause to ignore the rules of that fictional world.

It's about remaining respectful to a fictional world you have written, even moreso if it is someone else's fictional world, which is what we are playing on now. No more, no less than that.

If this were an RP in the dark ages, in a dark Victorian setting, or even a modern day RP with dark tones, I would have little problem with him running a cannibal, so long as he doesn't ignore the repercussions he could attract in the RP's world.

In this case he's made a character who is required to attend classes and be trained to essentially defend the common populace that he is eating.

EDIT: Oh I see. Missions have credit rewards.

Though is there anywhere they're being kept count of?
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@Sho Minazuki

Drop it for now. Lug and Harine have spoken, now Kaben has to decide what to do.
If you continue arguing, I fear you're only digging your own grave. (Not literally, of course)
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