[OOC] Heroes of Beacon - the Next Chapter

[Lugubrious]

Being proud of one's country does't automatically make a person an extremist, Pyro. If you posted a picture supportive of Germany, anyone who cried nazism would be utterly reprehensible.

Is that directed at me as well?

@Pannette

Yeah.

[KabenSaal]

Being proud of one's country does't automatically make a person an extremist, Pyro. If you posted a picture supportive of Germany, anyone who cried nazism would be utterly reprehensible.

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Yeah.

@Lugubrious

It's the general belief that any german with a national pride is a nazi. Stupid, general belief.

[HereComesTheSnow]

I've never seen any evidence of that actually existing tbh

I'm pretty sure nobody cried "NAZI" during the World Cup for example

[harinezumikouken]

[harinezumikouken]

Nothing wrong with pride in your nation.

[Ookawa]

Well... if you want to get punched to death, sure go ahead. Except when football, also known as soccer, is on. Then you can wave around your Germany flags however you want. But don't you dare wave it around in public when nothing's on...!

[Lugubrious]

I'm slightly confused...is it your implication that we are stupid generalization-makers, who'd vilify you for the tiniest semblance of nationalism? I highly doubt that is the case.

[HereComesTheSnow]

By who exactly

I'm having a hard time believing this

[Ookawa]

I've never seen any evidence of that actually existing tbh

I'm pretty sure nobody cried "NAZI" during the World Cup for example

@HereComesTheSnow

Like I said, the world cup and the Europa Cup are the exceptions, but otherwise you're going to be called a Nazi if you wave a German flag around in public. And you live in the US, you don't see evidence of it. I mean, it's in our genetic code. Even I feel uncomfortable seeing our flag in public.

[HereComesTheSnow]

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I mean, it's in our genetic code. Even I feel uncomfortable seeing our flag in public.

@PyroDash888

What

[Ookawa]

I'm slightly confused...is it your implication that we are stupid generalization-makers, who'd vilify you for the tiniest semblance of nationalism? I highly doubt that is the case.

@Lugubrious

By who exactly

I'm having a hard time believing this

@HereComesTheSnow

I'm talking about people in Germany. German police and stuff. I've seen the actual police go to people waving flags in public and talking to them to put them away, because it is disturbing people.

[harinezumikouken]

Wow, are you serious? They don't allow public displays of national pride?

[Ookawa]

Wow, are you serious? They don't allow public displays of national pride?

@harinezumikouken

There is no national pride in Germany. That is something people from America don't seem to understand. That people are like "I'm German, so what? I could've been born anywhere else, nothing special"
And especially with our historic background, of which we are reminded of daily, it is very difficult to even strat to feel "proud" of being German.

[HereComesTheSnow]

I feel like I'm not exactly on the same page here.

Running around with a big freaking flag in public is kinda weird everywhere, unless it's something like 4th of July or some other national holiday or event. And even then, it's kinda wacky.

Fucking around and expressing pride in your country on the internet like harine and I are doing isn't at that level (granted I am wearing a shirt with the stars and stripes on it so I GUESS I WIN THE PATRIOT CONTEST). Does this uncomfortableness extend to such mundane things as flag designs on clothing or just flying it outside your house?

And getting politely asked to stop and "getting punched to death" are two very different things.

At least, I'd hope so.

[Ookawa]

You do realize we have a new wave of nazism here? And yes, that stuff will still make people uncomfortable. Me too. Other nation's flags and designs don't.
And NOBODY flies the German flag outside their house. Nobody, except for government buildings. Not even on our national holiday, the 3rd of October, Day of German Unity.

Of course, the police doesn't punch people, but like I said, we have a new wave of national unrest. Lots of new nazis and a lot of new anti-nazis. It's such a big problem, that we sometimes even have "battles" in the streets.

[Lucius Cypher]

They're germans. They do both with the same level of intent and voice.

That being said Pyro I do know what youre talking about. Strange in the eyes of Americans, but the best comparison for us yanks, waving a german flag in Germany is like waving the confederate flag in the US. People remember it was one of the worse, most bigoted part of our country. And there aren't a lot who try to look into the history and culture when its been mired by the faults and sins of the past. The only difference is that the German Flag is the national flag, whereas the confederate flag is hardly the flag of the US.

[harinezumikouken]

No, you don't win the Patriot contest. ACDC t-shirt, blue jeans, desert tan ballcap with the Old Glory on it and THE STARS AND STRIPES TATTOOED ONTO MY RIGHT VENTRICLE

[Ookawa]

I have to admit, though... I have a flag hanging in my room. Not the German flag, though. I have the Maple Leaf hanging in my room.

[harinezumikouken]

I have to admit, though... I have a flag hanging in my room. Not the German flag, though. I have the Maple Leaf hanging in my room.

@PyroDash888

LOL.

[Ookawa]

Although still events like the BBC Last night of the Proms is something I'm envious of, that we, in Germany, don't have such a thing. But our national pride was bombed to ashes and buried beneath the rubble of our destroyed cities 70 years ago. There is nothing you could be proud of. Except that we live in Germany, not in some 3rd world country, like the USA for example.