[OOC] The Dust

[Darcs]

Permission to post CS, b0ssman?

[kapuchu]

Okay, Darc, gotta say... Damn. That was good. I like the idea of shifting eye colours, rather than one solid colour or slitted pupils like Aeon or I. It's a bit more unique than most, I feel, and is veyr interesting :P And in terms of quality... Well. I suddenly feel inferior on a lot of levels xD

[Syben]

Permission granted darcs. Go for it. Also, great post. Good read and I love the creative reigns you've taken with your story direction. I underatand information is still missing, but I will be on tonight to do some. I typically do about 4 towns minimum. I woll be back tonight everyone :)

[Callthecops]

What is the economy run on? Old world money? Purely barter?

[kapuchu]

Seems like Russle Town is the Go-To place... I think the meetings that will eventually happen will be quite interesting. A drug dealer, a Mafia Princess, a wandering Medic, and an escaped slave. Lovely cocktail for awkward and very entertaining conversations if you ask me.

[Darcs]

*blushes* Th-thanks guys! I've really enjoyed all the posts so far, they each have their own unique flavor to them-- especially with the action sequences, I noticed-- I'm looking forward to some character interactions. I made a few assumptions on the part of the Aqueous, mainly that racial distribution would be Japanese people generally in charge and in the cities and people descended from other Asian ethnicities in the towns-- I can change that if it conflicts with anything. Also, yeah, it'd probably be good to know what type of currency we have, what with being a super rich mafia character and all.

[Prophecy]

Agreed, all of the posts have been great, can't wait:) Do you know what I want to know though? How on earth do I get bullet points for my Cs!!

[Callthecops]

Escaped slave's post should be up soon. He will be in Russell City, and he will be unemployed/drunk. Also: [list-] [*-] [/list-] (remove the dashes)

[Callthecops]

Since I'm posting before my CS is up (though it's been submitted for final review now) here is a picture for appearance.

[Syben]

I noticed how you left my own lunatic out of that kapu, haha. World runs on trade and barter, no currency system but bullets are widely accepted, high grade being worth more. Darcs your post was fantastic, yes aqueous was meant ti be derived from asianic influences. Your mafia family's wealth is entirely up to you.

[Syben]

Also cops, good read, appreciate you shedding some light on his story. Just waiting for fire and unraveller until advancement. Hurray afternoon lol :P

[Callthecops]

Thanks! Figured it was too long for the backstory but too important to gloss over.

[Firecracker_]

Best case senario, I have a post up by late tomorrow night. Worst case, Saturday night. I will begin tonight, but the HW is heavy.

[kapuchu]

I noticed how you left my own lunatic out of that kapu, haha.

@Aeonumbra

Escaped Slave was your Gal, Aeon <.<

[Syben]

Callthecops.. also has an escaped slave. O.o Oh my, it's like coming to the party wearing the same dress. COPS YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CHANGE. THIS DRESS IS EXPENSIVE. >_>

[kapuchu]

Actually, I think that our little Bloody Sleeve girl has the most expensive dress :P

World runs on trade and barter, no currency system but bullets are widely accepted, high grade being worth more.

@Aeonumbra

also, I find this a bit hard to believe. It's been over 300 years, and I think that at least some sort of currency should have risen up in at least the first 100 years, with the last 200 being the time it took for it to get widespread and something everybody used. Not talking the kind of paper money that we use IRL, but perhaps just coins made out of some metal, say, I dunno, tin? Brass? I'm okay with sticking to just bartering, but I do think that a currency system would've been at least attempted during those 300 years. P.S Evelina Quinn's character sheet is under revision. It (for some weird reason) doesn't happen often, but I suddenly had a pang of inferiority and I'm now re-writing just about everything. She'll stay the same character, but it should (hopefully) be of higher quality (I blame Darcs :P).

[Syben]

Actually, I think that our little Bloody Sleeve girl has the most expensive dress :P

World runs on trade and barter, no currency system but bullets are widely accepted, high grade being worth more.

@Aeonumbra

also, I find this a bit hard to believe. It's been over 300 years, and I think that at least some sort of currency should have risen up in at least the first 100 years, with the last 200 being the time it took for it to get widespread and something everybody used. Not talking the kind of paper money that we use IRL, but perhaps just coins made out of some metal, say, I dunno, tin? Brass? I'm okay with sticking to just bartering, but I do think that a currency system would've been at least attempted during those 300 years. P.S Evelina Quinn's character sheet is under revision. It (for some weird reason) doesn't happen often, but I suddenly had a pang of inferiority and I'm now re-writing just about everything. She'll stay the same character, but it should (hopefully) be of higher quality (I blame Darcs :P).

@kapuchu

@The P.S:: My first IC post wasn't exactly top notch either, sick with two different ear infections in the same ear and half asleep. XD As for the currency sir. You doubt me. Think about it. After the apocalypse you have a pocket full of funny colored paper with dead people's faces on it, and maybe some semi-precious metal coins. Who cares? What use is that after society has collapsed, the government is gone, and you're faced with lawless marauders. The most important things, besides basic survival and food, are going to be Ammunition and Gasoline, or fuel. Followed by infrastructural things such as flowing water, electricity, an establishment of order. So really there are a handful of things that would be considered valuable for trade, your funny colored money isn't one of it.

• Ammunition and Arms
• Gasoline / Fuel
• Cigarettes
• Spices
• Antibiotics & Medicine
• Food
• Skills and Knowledge

Despite the fact that you'd have to find someone willing to make the money.. and what would you pay them with? How would you get everyone to agree? What would you backup an established currency that you could oh say, print? How would you establish an effective protocol to prevent inflation? How would you assure there would be no homemade currency in an apocalyptic world? 300 years and the only things as an established trade medium are useful things. How absurd :P Now bullets, everybody needs those, the best part is, you make em, you shoot em, and the demand remains. Perhaps it was attempted, but really, what's the point? You have a faction of people who keep to themselves, a faction that are just a step higher than mindless savages, a faction that is more focused on their bindings of honor and tradition, a faction that values only knowledge and progress, and then the only faction wholly obsessed with establishing a trade empire. Respective order: Edenites, Forsaken, Aqueous, Gaens, Motum Diversum. So I ask you again sir, when I could safely give you something you want, for something I want; rather than give you something, for a meaningless medium, and perhaps be unable to get what I want, meaning I demand more of this currency, meaning inflation; What's the point?

[kapuchu]

Hmm... Yeah. I doubt you. A teeny tiny bit :P But look on the bright side! It forces you to think a little ^^ Sorry if that sounds insulting, btw, not meant as such. But still, me asking this made you write that response. It made you write down why currency is not a thing. But even then, I just find it... strange, I guess you could say, that 300 years have passed with nothing but simple trade and bartering. It makes getting some things easier, t'is true, but it also makes other things more difficult. Not really possible to measure "wealth" if you can't measure it in a number. At the very least it's much more difficult to do so. Also: Trying to find a picture that looks like my character. Do you have any idea how difficult that is? :/ <.< Stupid Internet not having what I'm looking for.

[Syben]

Hmm... Yeah. I doubt you. A teeny tiny bit :P But look on the bright side! It forces you to think a little ^^ Sorry if that sounds insulting, btw, not meant as such. But still, me asking this made you write that response. It made you write down why currency is not a thing. But even then, I just find it... strange, I guess you could say, that 300 years have passed with nothing but simple trade and bartering. It makes getting some things easier, t'is true, but it also makes other things more difficult. Not really possible to measure "wealth" if you can't measure it in a number. At the very least it's much more difficult to do so. Also: Trying to find a picture that looks like my character. Do you have any idea how difficult that is? :/ <.< Stupid Internet not having what I'm looking for.

@kapuchu

I already think most things through, you just need to ask the right questions xD. Trade and barter is not simple, it's an art. Each sides have their downfalls, I however, have provided a perfectly reasonable, realistic argument for my side, and I have yet to be convinced otherwise haha. Wealth can be measured in innumerable ways, most commonly it's just how we perceive it. If I have no need for perfume, then that would not be valuable to me, which in turn would not lead the salesperson to aggregate wealth from me. However, if I am in need of a firearm, then the gunsmith would be quite wealthy as I perceive him against my needs to his. He needs very little from me, yet I need much from him. This creates a contrast of supply and demand. I must have something the gunsmith wants, and obtain something from nothing I must be useful, to be useful I must have a skill, to have a skill I must learn. By learning a skill, applying the skill, I can now become the gunsmith. I can be useful to society as a whole, I do not weigh down the market with non-skill endeavors like cure-all tonics and miracle herbs. By paying a set price for a "cure-all" one without use could be of considerable wealth, however, in comparison to what I need, versus what I am willing to give up, versus what he wants, creates a situation for haggling. In the end, using barter instead of a medium creates a complex dynamic of goods exchange, which is quite efficient and functional. People who are useful, survive. People who are not, do not. It's that simple, but the practise itself is a living, evolving thing. I see little point to a set medium in a world such as this. As for Evelina's Reference picture. Find me a face you like, and I can change the eyes pretty easily. You could even find a stock image of cat eyes and I could add them, or just tell me what color you want. Maybe add elongated canines too, if the mouth is agape.

[kapuchu]

and I have yet to be convinced otherwise

Oh, I'm not trying to convince you anymore :P Or at any point, really. I expressed my idea that a currency system seemed Plausible, you Busted it with a, as you said, reasonable argument. I'm not always trying to convince you just because I express an opinion. Tsk, have some faith. I'm about to head out a bit, but I'll see about finding a picture if you'd be willing to help :)