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I am interested in this! I want to bring the monarchy back to China! Even if it destroys me!

I have one question: Since there are European colonies nearby China and Asia, are they going to be apart of this roleplay and the storylines of China?
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I am interested in this! I want to bring the monarchy back to China! Even if it destroys me!

I have one question: Since there are European colonies nearby China and Asia, are they going to be apart of this roleplay and the storylines of China?


I think the colonies will play a part in the roleplay but not so much the plot. For example, my guy uses a mix of modern weapons and hand-me-downs from Europe since he's the warlord of where Macao and Hong Kong are located, so I guess they will mainly affect what the populace in your area thinks and (maybe) weapons.

That said, I'm coming up with a list of "unique units" for some of the culture/confluences so people who need a little inspiration for their armies can just rip some out.
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[This is a work in progress character and nation sheet]



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Got my stuff up, sorry if it looks mediocre or like I just stole all my ideas from people who cared more, because that is totally what I did.
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@Rare I hate to say this but someone else already claimed Shandong (the area you want) before you :\

@Chairman Stein Nice NS although I will ask that Ma actually convinced everyone to put down their traditional bows and swords and pick up a rifle? I find that unlikely as I'm fairly certain that there would be die hard traditionalists and conservatives who would refuse to pick up a gun.
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I will start working on my character sheet tomorrow, it's quite late here actually at the moment. (I live in Europe.) So it should be up once you are sleeping or when the lot of you are waking up. (That is assuming most of you folks are American.) I'm not to good with the whole map/paint usage thing so I would appreciate it if the host could colour the area of Ningxia for me. If my claim is accepted that is.

Side note: Lennon, i've noticed that the area you currently have, including the small strip of land connected to main land China, has a population of 15.9 million people today. Yet you only have a population of 2.5 million in your character sheet. I don't know much about population growth but to me it seems as though you should be able to increase your population to 4.5 million even, or 5 million maybe. Just a suggestion of course, was just making an observation.
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@Rare I hate to say this but someone else already claimed Shandong (the area you want) before you :\


But, he doesn't have a nation sheet up...

Fine, I was already planning something for that area; however, I have to change things now.

EDIT: Am I the only one that I can't see images that are from TinyPic?
EDIT: I have moved to a new location, is this good?
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@Rare I hate to say this but someone else already claimed Shandong (the area you want) before you :\

@Chairman Stein Nice NS although I will ask that Ma actually convinced everyone to put down their traditional bows and swords and pick up a rifle? I find that unlikely as I'm fairly certain that there would be die hard traditionalists and conservatives who would refuse to pick up a gun.


Oh I am sure that many of the Tibetan and Mongol chieftains kept to their ways, however I will admit I overlooked mentioning it. The main point of the 'Rise to Power' section was that he was able to bring them in under his more decentralized monarchy. In a combat/war situation I imagine the armies of the Clique would mostly consist of nearly Horde like mass cavalry mixed with more modern rifled infantry and cavalry in a smaller number.
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Out of interest, what is the current make up of the Imperial Family in exile?
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I am interested in this! I want to bring the monarchy back to China! Even if it destroys me!

I have one question: Since there are European colonies nearby China and Asia, are they going to be apart of this roleplay and the storylines of China?


As Clock said, the leased colonies will slowly bleed Western influence into China. This isn't limited to just the areas around Hong Kong and Macoa (i.e. Guangdong), but the further you get from the coast the lesser the impact. Also, the German colonies don't exist in this timeline because I completely forgot about them.

I will start working on my character sheet tomorrow, it's quite late here actually at the moment. (I live in Europe.) So it should be up once you are sleeping or when the lot of you are waking up. (That is assuming most of you folks are American.) I'm not to good with the whole map/paint usage thing so I would appreciate it if the host could colour the area of Ningxia for me. If my claim is accepted that is.

Side note: Lennon, i've noticed that the area you currently have, including the small strip of land connected to main land China, has a population of 15.9 million people today. Yet you only have a population of 2.5 million in your character sheet. I don't know much about population growth but to me it seems as though you should be able to increase your population to 4.5 million even, or 5 million maybe. Just a suggestion of course, was just making an observation.


I'm as British as they come, so a lot of the OOC activity seems to be when I'm asleep... But yes. Most of the census data I've found says that Hainan Island alone had a population of around 3 mil, but I decided to lower it in order to artificially weaken the Peninsula; the idea I'm going for is a small state with a relatively weak army and small but strong navy. Jiang won't be a major player in many land wars. That said, I might boost it to 5mil if everyone else's states continue to be so massive...

@Bright_Ops Is your CS finished? As for the Qing, the only three remaining named character is the rightful Emperor Pu Yi, who was smuggled out of the country by a small band of his most loyal retainers, about twelve senior ministers and military commanders. He is still a child though and is being raised by the Japanese court, with all the implications that entails. There are also a handful of minor cousins and such that can be used if something untoward were to happen to young Pu Yi.

Also Stein (and Clock actually), I'd have preferred you post your CSs to the OOC first as per what I said in the initial post, but what's done is done. Anyways, the Ma Clique is accepted.

Also, haha congreves... When I go on events the KGA always have their damn congreves firing over our heads. You die halfway up the field only to have a rain of sticks falling on you for the rest of the battle...

Also also, can everyone make sure that their warlord's names are in the correct Chinese order, i.e. family name first. Makes things less confusing.
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@Lennon79

Yeah, the CS is done. Jilin doesn't appear to be a coastal province.
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Still working on my character, doing the biography now. But seeing as you're not accepting it untill i've done something specific. Lennon, you're like school in July, no class.
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Alright then Bright, Naruto is accepted. Chuck him in the CS tab and we'll go from there. Once we have six states accepted, I'll open the IC.
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@Sven the Silent It seems like Hsi-shan and Jinfu would get along pretty well minus the underhand dealing Jinfu does XD

Also, everyone gets a free updated map

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It seems like Hsi-shan and Jinfu would get along pretty well minus the underhand dealing Jinfu does XD


Indeed, all though Hsi-shan uses attempts to gain Western support and technology because it would help enforce his rule and keep his province out of conflict. Jinfu seems to believe in Western ideals and also wants a Western trained army. The difference between us being that I aim to use Western Technology to further my own goals, rather then actively what's the word embracing it. If that makes sense?

But yes, we seem to be similair indeed. To bad my province wasn't closer to yours so I would have a nice land corridor for some supplies. :P

Side note: Finding population censuses are a bitch.
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Blight, I am fine with you having Naruto and all of the anime characters; but please find a realism drawing of him.

Just my suggest and all, so you don't have to take it and all. It's just off out of all the pictures posted.
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@Rare Changed the picture to a different one. Hope it is better.

@ClocktowerEchos I like your maps. They are good.

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@Bright_OpsThanks but soon I won't be able to make them since I won't be able to use a laptop wiht PS :l

On a different notes, wouldn't it make more sense for your soldiers to use Russian/Japanese weapons rather then German /British since their a lot closer Sphere of Influence/Location wise?
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... I don't know my guns, okay?
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... I don't know my guns, okay?


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