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So in order: essentially useless because she's trained in a completely different style of combat to one focusing on using a one-handed short-sword. Whilst unarmoured. With poor reach. And thus dropping drastically behind the other fighters in utility.

Sophia: Also has Knowledge (Planes), but pretty much useless, because there's not much scouting or knowledge work involved in WALKING DOWN A STAIRCASE.

Leander: making assumptions about the immunity of pain is one thing. Missing that you can still die by decapitation, and 'pain resilience' being pretty pointless if you can't do any damage. And knowing things is again useless for walking down a staircase in a straight slogfest. That, and they're alive by magic, so the dungeon would straight up kill 'em.


Actually it says Tanya is trained in "one-handed swords" so I'd assume that would include the xiphos. Her low strength means she's rather limited in options, so I'd assumed she'd have to learn with some kind of mundane weapon until she was granted the enchanted bastard sword.

Also pain immunity and special circumstances for death is useful as hell. You can draw aggro like crazy while the DPS guys get to work. That's why Berserkers and Barbarians usually get pain resistance and tons of temporary HP.

Also, lore checks are probably one of the more useful skills outside of combat, since they're useful for following leads and quest threads. Even inside combat, they can be used to identify monsters and their weaknesses.
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-Tanya
Trained primarily in melee combat in the first place. She relies on enchanted gear, but presumably still has some skill in fencing.
Her only notable weakness is a lack of strength and constitution, which is why she needs enchantments to lighten a two or three pound bastard sword. She'd need to ditch the plate armor and swap out for a lighter blade (I'd personally suggest a xiphos or seax), but is otherwise functional.

-Sophia
Pretty blatantly has Knowledge: Religion and Knowledge: History, which is good for finding info in certain scenarios.
As a harpy, she can fly, and that naturally gives her an advantage as a scout.

-Leander
Presumably has high ranks in Knowledge: Arcane. I suspect he's also literate and well read, as expected of a scholar. Additionally, undead are typically immune to pain and require special circumstances to be killed, which is a huge advantage in combat.
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So basically, half the currently submitted characters become useless, because this dungeon arbitrarily declares 'your stuff doesn't work here'. "Rely on skills you don't have and equipment you can't use" would be such fun.

... also, the dungeon weakens nonhumans for no readily apparent reason, despite the least magical race being dwarves. And no indication that any of the other races are, in fact, inherently magical.


I am about to go over every character with magical equipment and skills and go over their nonmagical abilities that would still be useful.

Think of it this way: Every iteration of Batman has a point where Batman loses his utility belt. Similarly, several games have points where you lose valuable gear or skills, to test your ability.
Anti-magic is pretty common though.

And it doesn't negate our mages to uselessness, it just means they have to rely on their physical skills.
And I guess without that enchanted gear, Tanya would have to remove her armor and find a lighter weapon, but hey.
Even if we're not doing a one-class only run, there's still no reason why there can't be two paladins in a party of eight people. It's a common class choice.
Okay... Mayon's not associated with lightning, but I didn't put that in the OP in part because I didn't realize that it'd be necessary. I can update the OP with a little more information on the deities mentioned.

Otherwise, I have to say I think it's a bit weird to include two paladins in a single party.


Two paladins isn't weird at all, though. Sometimes parties can even be comprised entirely of a single class.
I've got one in the works. Would it be alright to play a foreign agent sent to investigate the outbreak?
So when can we expect the game to start proper?
"Captain, captain! Did you see me?!" Al called, adjusting the strap on his sword sling. "I think your and Roy's training is paying off."

"And nice to meet you, Mister Ruidoso. You want to join the boxing club, huh? I'm pretty low ranked myself, so if you want an exhibition match to introduce yourself, I'm game for whatever." he smiled at the masked wrestler, extending his hand for a handshake.
You should put it as "Al, he's in it for all the bitches"
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