@Eschatologist That would be cool. I was thinking maybe one or two penal battalions were sent along with the Night Hunters and the Gray Winds. The rest are obviously with Oromis and the Mardochians. The convicts would make the ram and man it so nobody essential gets killed. Having Myra briefly meet Sweet Thond again only to be told he's basically a glorified distraction would be beautiful. Get her nice and angry before she gets sent to the gates. I like it a lot. The more crap we can put our characters through the better. :)