mdk

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I'd rather get gutted by Ghostface than become a souless Godless politician the lowest form of life, murderers and rapists are better people than them.

@Burning Kitty

With the obvious exception of Donald Trump, who is a perfect human in every conceivable way. We should all aspire to be so orange.

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Why does it have to be just federal? Still got state tax payer money. Either way my tax money be it federal or state is being spent on shit that does not educate in any way in the education budget. It does the opposite, kids are given passing grades just so they can keep on playing, furthering the trope in real life of the dumb jock.

@Burning Kitty

How much state money, then?

WHAT I'M DRIVING TOWARDS IS -- I don't really agree that sports (or choir, or any of the other extra-curriculars) are a waste of money but, generally speaking, school budgets are a community affair. Very much a local policy. You don't have to be a Clinton to have a say in that. Hit up your town hall, vote in local elections, hell run for the school board. We can both have our way, which is awesome.

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

Sports should be funded strictly from their ticket sales. If the team can't support itself from ticket sales the team shouldn't exist. All that taxpayer money wasted on sports could more than make up for any budget shortfalls.

@Burning Kitty

How much federal money goes towards sports in public schools?

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

@catchamber it gives small and unimpressive people a way to feel better about themselves by imaging themselves as members of an in group. Also serves as a basis for some to oppress others. I guess that is a type of utility?

@Penny

I think you're right about "supremacy"-type racial bullshit, and now (because it's me) I'm trying to apply the logic more broadly... conveniently there's a prime example on top of the headlines this very day. What would you say about, for instance, movies like Black Panther? I've been itching to see it, and reading a lot of press regarding the film. A whole big lot of the critical reception so far is based on the racial significance of the movie.... is that, like, is that wrong? Or just a product of wrong things that have already happened, and the current celebration is just marking a milestone on the way back to how it should be?

what I'm talking about

bbc.com/culture/story/20180214-should…
bbc.com/news/av/entertainment-arts-42…
bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-42992914
theroot.com/wakanda-forever-on-the-im…

can try to dig up more if you like, I've been browsing these for what feels like a year

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This one happened maybe 30 minutes from where I live.

I guess it's the price these poor kids have to pay since guns are handed out like candy.

@Xandrya

Most expensive piece of candy I ever bought.

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

Happy Valentine's Day!

Did you know that Valentine's Day and the practice of exchanging love letters began in ancient Rome? St Valentine, then just Valentine I guess, a priest, defied the emperor's orders to cease all marriages, because Valentine believed in the power of LOVE. See the Emperor needed more men for his wars, and he figured he'd have better luck recruiting grunts to march off to Germania if they weren't getting squeezed at home. Valentine would take youngsters out into the woods and perform marriages in secret, or mostly-secret I suppose, because around the year 270AD he was caught.

He was sentenced to beheading.

While in jail, awaiting his beheading, Valentine, shall we say, befriended the jailer's daughter. The night before his decapitation he slipped her a last testament of his love and signed it "From your Valentine." The jailer caught wind of what was going on, and Valentine was beaten to death before his head could be taken off.

NOW YOU KNOW -- and KNOWING is half the battle! Happy bludgeoning/decapitation day everyone.

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

@mdk Well I don't want to talk to you with your constant straw-manning and inability to stay on topic, @ some one else.

Dynamo Frokane

Can you express that in the form of a starter pack for me?

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

Ummm pretty sure you tagged me after we were told to knock it off, maybe you shouldn't @ people you don't want to talk to, sound like a good idea?

Cool, lets try that.

Dynamo Frokane

I don't "Not want to talk to you." Just lay off ad-hominems (especially imaginary ones) and we can go back to politics.

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

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Fair enough. All I'm saying, though, is that at the present time, a certain level of ethnocentrism is healthy, especially in respect to how other places are doing in comparison to where we are. We got to where we were in these certain places because of how white people, in general, acted in previous generations, and I don't think it's helpful to discount that with the critical theory bullcrap that gets spread around nowadays.

@ReonenMiruel

I dunno about ALL of that. But I'd agree that based on global flashpoints and the like, it's not entirely unreasonable to consider nationality in immigration policy in this present world at this present time. May even be a great idea.

....specifically I dunno about "We got here because teh whiteness!" I mean technically we wouldn't be where we are without two world wars and the Trail of Tears, that doesn't, ya know, mean war and reservations are the tits.

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@Dynamo Frokane

Coulda sworn that both of us were instructed (by forum staff) to knock this off. Are you NOT knocking this off? Are we doing this again? Just trying to be clear. While you chew on that why don't you go find me an example, maybe that'll help you make up your mind on whether or not you wanna go there.