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I'll have something up soonish. Probably. Work's hell right now.
Sixsmith said
I just personally think Control is the worst ending.You're basically doing what Starchild McSpaceMagic did in the beginning. Weren't the Reapers there to preserve life when they were first created, not eradicate it to make more of it's kind using the genetic slush of the most superior species of that cycle? I'm not going to question the strength of Shepard's will, but it's inevitable that he'll eventually come to some kind of wacked out conclusion as the Reapers had. And then you have mass genocide again because the Shepard-Reapers fell back into their 'no one can be trusted with their own lives' god-complex assholery.I went with Destroy in my first run through, but thinking back on it, I may choose Synthesis over it if I were to go through the game again. I mean, to be honest, you're either going to have to commit genocide, potentially come back to destroy the entire universe... again, or you just have to play god to make a race of possibly perfect beings without their consent. Hard choices, but I'd say the latter is the best.


Yup, though I initially thought Control may be the best these are my exact issues with it. Just too many variables and too many hypothetical doomsday situations. Same goes for Synthesis, though that one is more of a question of ethics. I think that's why Destroy appeals to a lot of people. It's easily the best written of the three endings: It has clear, understandable results with clear, understandable consequences. Control and Synthesis are so vague, you sort of pick them on faith. If you give them the benefit of the doubt (I.E. "My Shepard will only use the Reapers for good, I'm sure of it"), they're perfectly fine endings...but it requires too much speculation and wishful thinking to be "well written."
Voltaire said
That's why they focus on key players. If they hadn't focused on indoctrinating Anderson then he would have just been able to shoot The Illusive man when they met.


Was there some sort of implication that you need to be already indoctrinated for TIM's MegaReaperPowers(tm) to work on you, and I just missed it? I thought he was just juiced up on reaper circuitry.
Voltaire said
Why not? He's been in constant contact with the reapers since their invasion. The reapers are capable of taking control of peoples minds by their mere presence no?


No more than any other solider in the war. If indoctrination is that easy there shouldn't even be a war going on.
Voltaire said
You're both wrong. Explosions.You say Shepard and The Illusive man aren't the same, and yet, if Shepard wasn't being influence by the reapers, why was the Illusive man able to control him so easily at the end? So completely I might add, that he even makes you shoot one of your oldest friends.


He also controls Anderson. So by that logic, Anderson....is indoctrinated too? :/
Crya said
The thing is, I'm only willing to kill the geth because it's the only option. If the destroy ending would have caused all of the quarians' suits to malfunction, killing them all, but sparing the geth, I would still choose destroy. The control is what the Illusive Man wanted, and Synthesis is what Saren wanted. Both crazy, deluded men. I don't really want their visions carried out, not with all the unknown consequences.


The Illusive man was just that: deluded. Shepard is not. Saren didn't want synthesis, he wanted servitude in return for survival. While I agree that both Control and Synthesis leave way too many loose threads and what-ifs (which I think is truly the greatest weakness of the ending sequence), I find it hard to justify genocide based on things that might go wrong.

But I have to say, if any race was to get wiped out, it would be the geth. They just gained consciousness. They have no culture, music, art, government, history, etc. etc. yet. Killing them doesn't leave as big of a hole in the galaxy as killing, say, the asari would.


This is basically just cultural elitism. While a culture may be defined by the creations of the individuals within, we're not talking about the price of wiping out a culture: we're talking about exterminating a living race. Even just talking about culture itself, why does a society's longevity give it a greater right to live to life than any other society. It can't just be because "Well the Geth are the new kids on the block anyway, no one will miss them."
Personally I never felt like Destroy was even an option.

First of all, there's no reason to believe Starchild is lying. If he is, why does he even give you the Destroy option? Why make up a needlessly complicated lie? He could've just been like "Nah, that red thing over there? It's just a trash compactor, don't worry about it."

The fact that the geth are synthetic really shouldn't factor into it at all imo. Regardless of whatever ambiguity was present in the first two games concerning the sentience of the Geth, by the end of the third game they are undoubtedly sentient beings with just as much a right to life as any other race. I wouldn't kill the entirety of the Human race (though that would've made for a pretty poignant and interesting ending), or the Turians, or the Asari or anyone else, not when there are other options available (which there are). And saying the Geth are a liability because some of them supported the Reapers is like saying the Humans are too dangerous because Cerberus almost fucked up the galaxy too.

Both Control and Synthesis are more viable options, imo.
Crya said
Am I the only one desperately hoping that Siame Industries ends up holding some giant evil secret and that they'll end up doing some really evil shit by the time we're through with this? Rebekha Siame is a reaper pass it on


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It's either that or they're having a stand off with pistols drawn over a chasm. Anything's possible!


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