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In UK Leaves EU 8 yrs ago Forum: Spam Forum
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1. It being a stupid idea is totally non-partisan.

2. The list itself, and the authority governing it, should certainly be looked at.

3. Freedom to travel through the sky in a recliner is not an inalienable right. The NFL is an administrative policy, legally made and specifically focused towards a single lawful purpose. Recklessly extending it beyond its scope, especially as a litmus test by which to deny ANYBODY his or her constitutional rights, is fucking ridiculous.

4. Sure. We're a representative democracy. The reason we have a house and a senate in the first place, rather than being governed by polls, is so that they can stop the frightened masses from overreacting in the moment. They're doing exactly their job, and yes, their job is 'undemocratic' at the moment. That's a loaded word and a dirty question, but the answer is yes, they're SUPPOSED TO. We set it up that way because occasionally pure democracy gets behind stupid ideas like this one.


So you're against the will of the people then?

Speaking of the house doing their job, the bill was fast-tracked when the democrats within the house wanted to debate the issue. Do you believe the house was doing it's job then too?

What do you feel about the majority of conservatives in support of the small measures of gun regulation?
In UK Leaves EU 8 yrs ago Forum: Spam Forum
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Considering a good friend of mine -- an active-duty Air Force pilot currently commanding a flight school unit -- is somehow on the terrorist watch list -- I don't have a lot of faith in whoever's putting all that together and running it. Heck maybe they'll clean up their act, and maybe someday the watch list will run as smoothly as healthcare.gov. Or put it to you this way: let's say Donald Trump gets to decide who's on the terrorist watch list. Does that sound like a law that can coexist with the bill of rights as we know it?

More to the point -- it's a stupid feel-good law. We're talking about terrorists right? If they're terrorists, in what way is this supposed to do one goddamn thing to stop them? I can't fathom how, after being at war against terrorism for fifteen years, anybody in this country still honestly believes that a piece of paper is gonna prevent a terror attack. Okay maybe some people are scared, I mean it's called TERROR after all, that's to be expected, and in reaction to that fear certain irrational (temporary) beliefs are bound to arise. But the people in leadership, the people actually writing the bill and organizing the sit-in? They know exactly what they're doing.

It's not a bill at all, it's a political circus. Shit they're not even committed, "No bill no break" didn't even last 24 hours. It's a joke, and if it goes through it'll be abused, and everybody knows it -- but we're choosing not to care, because this time it's only gonna affect gun owners, not iPhone owners, so what's the big deal right?

TL:DR -- it's a stunt. Anything it is, more than that, is harmful to pretty much every kind of freedom we enjoy, so let's just not.


Okay so what do you feel about the majority of conservatives that are in favor of the bill?

Should the no flying list be repealed as well considering it affects all people across the board?

Should the no flying list be repealed due it's far increasing relevance to people's well-being and freedom to travel?

Do you find the republican house not representing bipartisan support for gun regulation undemocratic?

In UK Leaves EU 8 yrs ago Forum: Spam Forum
Scottish independent favoured at 59% percent and rising
In UK Leaves EU 8 yrs ago Forum: Spam Forum
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TL:DR -- there's not much USA in here, so it's a pointless read. Watch this instead.


What do you feel about the democratic house sit in to restrict people on the terrorist watch list from guns? I see 86% of citizens in the US support it across the political spectrum.
In UK Leaves EU 8 yrs ago Forum: Spam Forum
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It had the second highest remain vote, Scotland had the highest remain vote.
So do you want the Sinn Fein border poll/United Ireland thing?


Well I certainly want them to have the choice. It would need to be a movement across both states.
In UK Leaves EU 8 yrs ago Forum: Spam Forum
@The Nexerus

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Wales and Northern Ireland aren't real countries and therefore aren't likely to leave the UK. Wales has never actually existed (and also voted in favour of Leave), and most folks in Northern Ireland identify more with Great Britain than the actual inhabitants of Great Britain. Northern Irish Unionists weren't united behind Leave and yet still managed to win 44.8% of the vote in the EU referendum. Add onto that 44.8% figure all of the Unionists who support the EU, and you have a very hefty majority in favour of remaining a part of the UK. The possibility of a return to sectarian conflict is also probably enough to convince at least some Republicans to support the status quo. Aaaand all of that is only relevant if the government in Northern Ireland actually calls for a border poll, which isn't terribly likely because the incumbent First Minister of Northern Ireland is Arlene Foster, leader of the very unionist DUP.

The only real possibility for a withdrawal from the United Kingdom is in Scotland. That's something the British government is going to have to work against, but they're going to be helped by three factors that weren't there in September of 2014.

1. The last referendum on that topic was just two years ago. Circumstances have changed, absolutely, but is this going to be the new normal for the SNP? Trying to call a referendum every few years until their side wins one? With the last referendum there was no doubt as to the legitimacy, this time around there will be at least some. Alex Salmond called the last referendum "the chance of a lifetime", saying that these sorts of national decisions come "once in a generation". Not so much, Salmond.

2. The SNP doesn't have a majority in Scottish Parliament any more. They could conceivably still initiate a call for a referendum, perhaps with support from the separatist Greens, but they would face strong opposition before they even got a referendum bill out of Holyrood. That wouldn't bode well for the referendum itself.

3. The price of oil is less than half of what it was at the time of the last referendum, and an independent Scotland would depend on oil revenue for a very large portion of its financial needs. The SNP would have a tough time convincing undecided folks that the Republic of Scotland is even viable, let alone desirable.


Okay good I can address these.

1. SNP stated if a constitutional change was to occur, like the UK leaving the EU - that another referendum should or would be an option to take place. The SNP didn't outwardly state this however, because as a political party they don't want to back peddle if that doesn't bring about independance for all the reasons you mentioned. What they'll be looking for is a national call for one. Which has steadily rised coming up to the brexit vote and has spiked since the results. Now, whether it's genuine or not, the SNP did rally for a remain vote - partly to ensure scotland's vote was in stark contrast with england, but they did target the outer regions of the UK too. So, on all ends it's only political spin that could assert their call for another referendum is taking advantage of the brexit vote as opposed to a genuine and valid response. So far, the ground support for the SNP is larger than it was during the scottish referendum, and polls are showing that those likely to vote yes to scottish independence and to remain/return into the EU is now 55% to 45%, a decisive indication.

2. The SNP doesn't have a majority, but more proportional votes were made to the SNP last council elections than ever before. I don't mean in (how many people voted) as voter turnout is huge amongst all parties after the SNP's rise in the general elections, what I mean is the amount of people that voted for them for every person that voted for another party. The reason they lost a majority by either 1 or 2 seats is entirely how our voting system works, which is made entirely to ensure there can't be single party domination. Now, this only hurts them on a parlimentary level, as public support for the SNP is massive ( which is already swinging the political window in their favor with other parties), now the SNP has to get a little support from some parties when it comes to things like taxation, which - thankfully - the green have enough power to then hold leverage on the SNP. For independance however, we already have some of the labour party, all of the green party, and the SNP to cover that. So, no problem there.

3. Oil - yep. This is a valid point. Oil has dropped. But it will rise again, and again, and drop again. It always has and always will as long as middle eastern oil rich countries flood the market when it suits most summit countries. It suits the UK in terms of the westminister bubble because trading it was more beneficial (at least to the upper classes) in profit than exporting it, and it suits canada and america, so that will always happen. But it's still a finite recourse with very small steps in terms of renewable energy taking place to replace it, god forbid - so prices will, again, go up and up and up and up and then down and so forth.

That said, it's only a strict demographic of the scottish population that's actually pro oil anyway. Scottish people from center to left all are in favor of renewable energy. An oil fund wants to be made for any economic crisis, but the narrative was only highlighted when under attack when the no camp attempted to state that it was scotlands only valid trade, it's never been the Yes camps sticking point (but having 60% of all of EU's reserves for one small country ain't bad btw). We've made the argument that scotland can have a growing and stable economy without it, as we have fishing, hydro, agriculture, tourism, whisky (biggest buyer is china), engineering and a growing contemporary market.
In UK Leaves EU 8 yrs ago Forum: Spam Forum
@The Nexerus

What sinn fein are trying to do is essentially change the goal posts of the debate between a unified ireland, as while sectarianism and Westminster support has kept it entirely separate, NI i think had either one of, or the highest remain vote out of all the UK states. Personally I'm all for it if northern ireland are - so, while it may not work entirely now, it does open a path towards it.
In UK Leaves EU 8 yrs ago Forum: Spam Forum
I have a question: if Scotland, north Ireland and Wales break off from England, wtf is the Union Jack going g to become? The Queen's Jack?


In UK Leaves EU 8 yrs ago Forum: Spam Forum
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