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A Skulduggery Pleasant based 1x1 between @Jacobite and @Sodomite
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That took too long...

It's probably the games I picked up in a Steam sale which caused me to procrastinate my love of the character and desire to do him justice that made it take much longer than Hanzo. Still, here he is.

@Kaithas
Sure, sling me a PM so I can beg you for my precious evil Gabe so we can talk it out.
@Lmpkio
I was actually going to bring up that he hasn't been online for a while and hadn't reported here, in order to claim Reaper, but I was going to do it along with my Reinhardt sheet so I didn't look too greedy.

@Kaithas
I already have a face claim, some formatting and some plotting done for him, if you're not set on him?

Edit: @Jacobite@Solo Hivemind? Or fools seldom differ?
You know what, sure, let's do this.

- can't be killed by destroying replaceable robot bodies
So, he can't be killed by destroying his body, you'd have to kill all his bodies and then his AI which is Vishkar corporation's HQ, right? So to actually kill him, you'd have to break into one of the world's largest corporations, kill or incapacitate their huge numbers of security and then destroy the core, not even counting the Age of Ultron like challenge of finding every trace of his AI on the internet. As destroying the core is presumably happened during the Omnnic war and he's clearly still kicking. Not to mention the fact that every other character dies if you kill them, with the semi exception of Dva, but even then it's only a suit and she doesn't eject far.

- rupture his power core
So destroying his body wouldn't rupture his power core? Would an oddly specific weakness.

- massive dirty bomb goes off
You said it could "destroy a small house and irradiate a city block", so it's on a level with Dva's Ult, which we'll address in a minute, with the addition of radiation which, as pointed out, has no real world cure and you mention it can't be healed.

- he can control exactly one other omnics or machines
You say that like it's not overpowered. He can literally control other players "easily", as long as they use machinery or are omnics.

- and his ult has no counterplay aside from staying away from him, just like D.va's ult
Maybe you haven't played much Overwatch but there are dozens of counterplays to D.va's ult. Reinhardt can use his shield or charge it, Lucio can Ult or boop it away, Zarya can bubble, Roadhog can hook it away. With radiation that ignores shields and armour and can't be healed, there's no counterplay other than not be near it. It could potentially be hooked or booped, though you haven't mentioned the radius and that would still be death for whoever did the hooking or booping.

- except for every healer using advanced magic technology
Which you didn't mention or specify in your sheet, though you did mention that the radiation in the Ultimate is unhealable, which would lead one to assume it all is.

- the ultimate is unhealable, like Ana's biotic grenade.
Incorrect, Ana's grenade blocks healing for a very short time, it's not unhealable damage. It also doesn't bypass armour and shield.

- In the game, HP, Armor, and Shields all serve the same purpose: you're alive until you lose your last point.
Well, not exactly. You're alive until you lose your last point of health, as armour and shield always die first and all characters have some health under their shields and there's no canon hero who ignores either. You don't ever die from losing all your shields or armour as you'd always have a minimum of 1 HP underneath.

- We are talking about the same game right? The one with a magic Buddhist robot
Who throws lazer balls and does healing

- a talking gorilla
Who fires lazers or hulks out

- a cyborg ninja
Who throws shurikens and uses a dangerous sword

- and a girl with an APM of nearly 9000
This is sort of funny but doesn't really contribute anything to your point

- a radioactive robot
Who ignores all defences, deals unhealable damage, controls other heroes, doesn't die when beaten and can go off like a bomb.

One of these things is not like the others.

- I don't think I'm going too far off the reservation with a radioactive robot.
Yeah, here's where I assume you're intentionally missing my point. I made the point that your character is against what Overwatch's power levels stand for. All the heroes are on similar levels, though they obviously have different strengths. Rein will always beat Zennyatta in a physical confrontation but Zennyatta can heal and support his friends. None of them are glaringly more powerful than the others, if you accept that a man can be so good with a bow that he's at the level of Mecha pilot. But your character can kill anyone, control other heroes, ignores the main defence against damage and even if he was miraculously overcome, would just build a new body or reside in on the internet and/or Vishkar HQ.

- Yeah I'm pretty curious about why this is. Honestly it makes the timeline completely screwy, since the Omnic Crisis was supposed to take place roughly 30 years before the setting of the game.
On this, at least, we agree. I don't quite get why the GMs have chosen to move back the timeline but they have and they are the GMs.

My overall point is that no hero is comparable to yours in terms of deadliness or the ability to survive, not the way you've written him. I get the sense from your writing and briefly looking at some of your other sheets that this is deliberate and, well, whatever floats your boat. But being in any sort of conflict with this character would be pretty much pointless for, say, Mcree or Tracer, which rather makes the roleplay a bit boring.
@Dead Cruiser
So, this character is unkillable, though if you destroy his body then a massive bomb goes off, he can control other omnics or machines and his ult has no counterplay aside from staying away from him? Not to mention he has radiation based abilities, meaning if he hits you enough times you're going to die and no one can save you, as there's no cure for radiation poisoning, unless Mercy's Caduceus Tech can? And even then, apparently the ultimate is unhealable.

I do want to ask a question, though: if your weapon and ult can bypass shields and armor, doesn't that make them both pointless? Once a person's health is completely gone, they can't survive on shields and armour. They'll be dead, but well shield and armoured. 0 HP is dead, even if you still have armour or shields, both in the game and according to common sense.

Honestly, the character is just incredibly unbalanced for a mainly Street level team fight style of game. I'm mean, look at the canon heroes. A lot of them just shoot laser guns, bows or revolvers. One only has a hammer. And then this character can kill anything with radiation and will level a city block if his body is destroyed.

Obviously it's up to the GMs to accept this or not, but in my view, this really flies in the face everything that Overwatch is about.

EDIT: His sheet also mentions that he was woken in 2042. The timeline for this version of Overwatch's present is 2017.

@Tominas
Well, aren't there only three Talon agents in the canon that we know of? Sombra, Reaper and Widowmaker. You're right, it will totally affect the team dynamics but it's not far from the source material.
@Solo
Thank you, it's quite a sad song about the past and how things were, as I understand it. A friend of mine sang it at a charity concert and recommend it highly.

@Monster
Thanks! I did a lot of fiddly coding for the gradients so View Raw looks like hell but I'm still pretty proud of how it turned out. I had a Japanese friend help me with the bits that require actual working knowledge of the language.

@Eisenhorn
He's coming along, the formatting is mostly finished so now I just have to do the actual writing.
@Vicier@Caits
Alrighty then, Hanzo is finished, I'd better get to working on Reinhardt.

@Jacobite
I agree with this, I haven't finished the Hanzo sheet (it's coming along...) but he's going to be every bit as grumpy as the canon version of the character and probably a bit more to fit the tone. Though if anything, it'll be less grumpy and more serious and anti-social, due to conflicted loyalties and character stuff.

So yeah, probably not friends with a super-duper-happy gamer who is around twenty years his junior.
@Caits
Well yeah, that's exactly what I said. As I didn't claim Reaper publicly, it's up to Pro to decide who plays him.
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