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So we don't have a rider?
@poog the pig
Have all the Servants been summoned yet?
Nevermind everything I said in this post. I highly doubt any of it matters to the RP and pointing out stuff for just one person seems awfully specific.
Ok, ok. To avoid further problems, I'll rework Saber a lot. I had poog's approval for that draft, if he said that Saber was so above everyone I would have changed her before beginning the RP. I don't want to ruin everyone's time just because no one told me that I have gone a little too far.

I'll redo her now to say the truth, so please wait a moment.


I mean I don't mind anything on that sheet all that much aside from the stats. A rank MR is fine by me. I'm the only one that's affected by that anyway. It wasn't so much the stats were OP as that they made no sense in canon.
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Her stats come from a huge regional and fame bonus from being summoned within the premisses of her old empire (mind that Saber was sent to the GM before the OOC was made) and the fact that she's supposed to be an actually extremely important historic figure, so basically everyone in the world knows about her. Also she has a personal skill that boosts her stats even further. And, actually ++ means triple stats, not quadruple only her NP (originally A+) is quadrupled because of the bonus.

Mmmm, your acting as if tripled stats isn't extremely powerful to the point of it being ludicrous here, no offense.

Let's take a look at Vlad III here when he was summoned in Romania, the literal place he lived in and defended in his life. He gains the maximum amount of fame possible for a heroic spirit turned servant as explicitly stated by Apocrypha. Here are his stats, mind you, which are also likely buffed by Demonic Defender of the State.

Strength: B
Endurance: B
Agility: A
Magic: A
Luck: D
Noble Phantasm: A

Here are his stats when he is forced out of homeland advantage.
STR: C
CON: C
AGI: B
MGI: A
LCK: D
Noble Phantasm: B

As you can see, his stats do not triple or anything. They just rank up.

There's not a single place that says that you have to have dragon blood to have A-rank magic resistance. Arthuria's just like that because it really can't go into EX, since only the Ruler class is outright immune to the Five Magics, see Joan of Arc's stats for an example. In fact, the base container of the Saber class has B-rank Magic Resistance, so a Saber can go bellow it unless she is under some curse, meaning that Sabers can either or A rank.


A rank magic resistance is exceptionally rare for a reason. Not everyone has the luxury of no selling Casters from the Age of Gods without a second thought. Dragon's Blood/Phantasmal Pedigree is a way of attaining this. The more common way of getting this is by having strong Faith, like Joan of Arc, Saint George, etc. Christian protections, particularly those regarding saints, grant A rank MR. However without extenuating circumstances, A rank MR should not be possible, and I have no idea where the "cannot go below class specifications" thing comes from when it doesn't apply to parameters and other classes' skills either.
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Those are some big stats, and if what Sublimation says is true, Saber might need a debuff.


If the + signs activate under special conditions(rare special conditions at that), then that's fine. A temporary quadrupling in strength to overpower a sword lock or something is reasonable. I'm just saying that every stat being better than Heracles's under mad enhancement by a value of one hundred is really odd if its something that's permanently there.
Also I'm really curious about Saber's stats here.

Are the modifiers on her stats based on skills/NP or are they just there? Since if they are just there then all her stats are quadrupled and will be many times higher than anybody in the entire verse.
Caster

With a rather amused expression upon her face as she perceived Darryl's reaction, Caster spoke to him once more through their master servant connection after his fiery little parting speech.
"Amusing that you have the gall to say that in front of all of your competitors. Well, with a servant like me I can say your confidence is warranted."
However, this minor response came to an abrupt end as it seemed that already an altercation occurred between servants inside the stuffy barn. It seemed that the Lancer class servant had decided to engage in confrontational conduct not particularly violent in nature against the Saber class servant. Obviously from the Saber servant's bearing of nobility and traditional chivalry, an immediate rejection complemented by a violent rebuff had occurred. Perhaps this would initiate the first battle of this war. With piqued interest and curiosity that did not at all take into account the scope of seriousness this situation entailed, Caster turned and began to observe the scuffle.
"Young man, I suggest we stay for this parade. It will help us gauge their abilities while we can merely act as bystanders without revealing anything."
Caster noticeably did not address Darryl as her master, and even her title of deeming him to be but a young man was laced with subtle condescension. Events took a superbly interesting turn when Saber immediately revealed her noble phantasm, which gripped Caster's own interest with an iron hand. It was a limited effect type mystic code suited towards initiating the mystery of the Second Magic. An exceptionally rare artifact that would have been a treasure even in the Age of Gods. The Second Magic itself was not something Caster was unfamiliar with, and she herself was capable of utilizing an aspect of it but in a way more similar to renowned martial artists of the East. Drawing from her extraordinary knowledge in magecraft, Caster discerned that this was likely not a tool to directly access the full extent of the Second Magic, but rather a siphoning tool designed to provide an infinite amount of expendable prana by accessing magical energy from the countless parallel dimensions in existence. An exceptionally formidable tool, but one that was severely limited by the user's magical capacity. An ordinary magus for example, would not be able to use such a sword to its maximum effect as their upper limit would be to say expend two hundred units of prana. Thus the sword would replenish these two hundred units instantly, allowing for an endless usage of two hundred units. Obviously, a servant with say a thousand units would be able to abuse this weapon to a far superior degree. Of course, Caster could not glean any direct specifics, and the weapon's status as a noble phantasm may have imbued it with a multitude of additional effects Caster would not comprehend without witnessing them.

Dirty A rank MR'er confirmed. Poor Caster can't rely on most of her magiks anymore :(.
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