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If it ends up happening and we're too big, the problem's easy to solve: split people up. Just make sure that everyone has someone to interact with. :P That was the main problem last time for a few peeps.

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Voltin said
can't breaththat sigthank you tick for making my late night. xDEDIT: But you realize what this betrayal means, right? REMOVAL FROM MY OWN SIG! BWAHAHA


Welcome. :D It was hard to pass up realizing the potential of Voltaire's post.

NOOOOOoooooooooooo. my sig fame
Welp, I s'pose it had to happen eventually. Has a solid Book-Ends feel, now.
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Guru said
Typical.


The crime rates? Or Larfleeze's response?

I need a new vidja game to play, but I'm blanking for ideas.
Are you terrified of the reality you're about to face?
Voltaire said
God dammit Tick, I just noticed the update to your sig. You are one sadistic motherfucker.


You inspired me. :D
You dishonor the honor of sig-station. Voltin had to sacrifice that honor for you. Ingrate. :[

EDIT: Dammit guys. I keep getting late shocks at the realization that there's another post. I'm too used to OOC updates.
You guys really like to tempt fate to fuck with you, eh?

mdk said




This is fantastic.
Are you trying to go for that self fulfilling prophecy thing?
That only works when it's a bad thing and the majority of the populace is convinced of it.
Also, I should clarify, this whole thing doesn't bug me in a deep, personal way. I don't think GoT's wrong for having a rape scene, period, and I'm not worried about the portrayal of women on the show because one chick experienced rape or risk thereof. I just think the execution was bad and potentially done for stupid reasons.

Also, Voltaire, I fixed that context problem for you. :]
Also, racist asshole Legolas was hilarious. Particularly the family photo bit.
Holy shit. I haven't read this much at once since some (EDIT:) IC (/EDIT) post from Mosis.

Okay, I know I'm late on this, but I was stuck at college.
Baelish shiz is interesting, much thanks on that. :]

Quick note: Yeah, GRR Martin didn't speak badly of the scene beyond his disappointment about the way it ended up disturbing, and I think he made an awesome intelligent response, but I wouldn't expect him to speak badly of the showrunners. Both because they're people (who he knows), and because it's bad business. No one wants to hire someone that actively gives 'em a bad image and poisons everything.

I don't know what the fuck is with the rape scene. It came out of no where, seemed wildly out of character, and made just for the sake of TV sensationalism (which is Soap Opera level shit, and the main reason I got pissed). It also seemed to make the whole redemption arc pointless. Sure, he didn't seem a full-on goody two shoes, but this is extreme. And why bother making him have such a huge thing against rape (involving others/himself) if he's gonna rape his lover-sister next to the corpse of his nephew-son? I kinda see the points for it, it makes more sense, but it still reads like a stretch to compensate the scene.

I've heard claims it's out of character because Jaime's chivalrous/extremely caring when it regards his sister, and regretted the rape of another female character because he couldn't do anything to stop it (standing right there). Not sure if that's true. The book's thing comes off as a grayish consensual (rape/potentially rape at the start), but it mostly reads like Cersei's bullshitting (or genuinely expressing worry) in fear they get caught, before encouraging Jaime. It didn't seem like she was accepting rape. I know the books often vary in interpretation, but GRR Martin seems to be confirming it wasn't rape in the way the show was.

There were a lot of people saying it was supposed to be grayish consensual like the book, and the show just fucked up badly. Tried looking it up and got different results. Here's one thing:
(*) When I interviewed Alex Graves about "The Lion and the Rose," we also spoke briefly about the Jaime/Cersei scene and about how the encounter starts out as Jaime forcing himself on her, then turns into something else. This is what he said:

"Well, it becomes consensual by the end, because anything for them ultimately results in a turn-on, especially a power struggle[...]"


This place says he stated it was rape/forced sex, before said interview. I'm assuming they mean Graves was talking flat out rape. Not positive.
Jaime's actor said, "yes and no" on the question of rape, that Cersei gives in at points and fights at others.

In the show, it read as flat out rape, no consensual part at any point.

I like the book's thing better, way better. And I don't get why they didn't add Cersei encouraging (or not saying no) Jaime if it was supposed to be consensual at some point. That said, I would accept the new shit if it went somewhere. Otherwise, it was a waste of time on a show that has too little time for its cast.
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