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Firecracker_ said
Alright guys, I added most of you guys to a Google Doc of new story I'm working on, that will tie into an RP that I hope to put out somewhere in the future. The ideas are still rough, but I'm hoping you guys can go to the Doc and just help out or give ideas, but I don't expect or really want you guys to write anything for me. It's post-apocalyptic, as usual, but not zombies, but a take on the 'natural disaster' mixed with 'disease' and I guess maybe a mixture of a few other things. Hope you guys enjoy!


See, I saw this and was asking myself if it was related to some job posting I responded to, then realized the name looked very familiar. I'd love to help along with the ideation process! I have a commissioned piece to write (could earn me stable work as a freelancer) first, but I'll definitely pop on.
A couple of the posts I read here seemed to suggest that abortions and pregnancy come as a result of irresponsibility. That's basically where my perspective differs. Abortions are an option of birth control that many seem to feel is a little too literal. Honestly, we're overpopulating for our resources and land usage. We're going to need to come up with some systems to maintain what we have or we're going to suffer vast repercussions that effect thousands of children rather than one period of development America clearly finds debatable. So abortion? Sure, okay. But I also think we should be figuring out this whole 2.34 children per family thing when we've millions homeless and starving. Maybe bringing in so many children in a country increasingly strapped for resources is more irresponsible.

I recognize that pregnancy can come from merely being irresponsible, as that's how I had my daughter in high school. However, in many cases unexpected or unwanted pregnancies often come due to a lack of education, poverty, access to birth control, and religious beliefs, all creating external forces that can lead to these situations. The simple fact is that areas in poverty experience higher numbers of accidental pregnancies than otherwise. There's probably a ton of reasons for this, but without going into any of it, it's clear that we're not just talking about people with good sense. We all know there are plenty of middle and upper class people out there who can't manage simple problem solving, empathy, or step by step directions. It's not a matter of knowing better, it's a lot to do with access and education.

And education isn't just about the skeletal high school basics. We're talking about stacking birth control so that protection is used by both partners. About choosing partners less apt to slip off or tamper with condoms, learning tricks to avoid this sort of foul-play and to see if a product has been modified in any way. We're talking about not slut-shaming and making anyone who is sexually active a pariah or target so you can buy forms of birth control without shame. Humans are sexual creatures. It's an instinct meant to help us survive and labelling people for being sexually active is like calling someone strange for eating. There may be personal, moral associations in your head, but these are separate from the reality of humanity. When we are hungry we eat. Thirsty we drink. There are healthy ways to do these as there are healthy ways with sating your sexual appetites as well. Labelling someone a slut for getting pregnant is more having the lack of vision to realize it's all different shades of physical, and potentially psychological hunger.

TLDR: Accidental pregnancies happen for a variety reasons. Stop shaming what your body does naturally. The Accidental part is the problem, so let's make solutions more accessible and user-friendly. Slut-shaming is clearly not working!

TheNewGirl said Lots of thoughts come to my mind. Women who find themselves pregnant by accident are idiots and most likely whores. It probably sounds crazy coming from a girl, but It's true.


Doesn't sound crazy at all, just extremely judgemental. Most likely whores? Does this account for many who experience faulty systems of birth control or are tricked into using tampered forms? How about the restriction of birth control to youth without parent consent, an issue still prevalent throughout the US. Maybe the stigma put on simply buying birth control, that being safe somehow makes you a whore. Actually, what about that whore part? Is that supposed to be some sort of insult to those who are sexually active? Who are you, or any of us to judge those who choose to have sex or not to have sex? Is someone who drinks alcohol occasionally then suffers liver damage or cancer suddenly a lush? Someone who drives and experiences an accident a horrid driver? See, things aren't black-and-white. In high school I had a GPA of 3.78 and was earning college credit as a Junior (attending college full-time as a Senior). I graduated with honours from college boasting an Associates by 19 and a Bachelors at 21. I represented both high schools I attended to represent my student body when meeting our governor. Oh right, and my daughter was born when I was 16. Her mother has experienced much of the same success too, not an 'idiot' or a 'whore' by any stretch of the imagination. So hold up, what exactly are you basing all this hate on?
Heard, Fallen.

How is everyone doing? I don't see our OOC super lively, but our IC always seems strong. I swear you all scare me sometimes.

Oh, and I'll just leave this here...

RPGN 3/14 said
Tough Mudders
These are the RP's that kept going through the Guildfall; some of them have been around for years, and we're giving them a special recognition, because it takes dedication as well as talent to keep one of these going this long -- and the patience of a saint. These RP's are establishments within the Guild, and a little thing like Guildfall isn't keeping them down. (Note: Because of Guildfall, we;'re also recognizing sequels, since we know a lot of stuff was lost.)

Old Guild Survivor RP's
- Naruto: The Rise of the New Generations - GM: New Generations
- Star Wars: Coruscant Sacked: Aftermath - GM: Ellri
- Apocalyptica - GM: Aweena
- Legend of Zelda: The Templar Crusade - GM: ColonelCaboose
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List goes on, but are we one of the few RPs there not based off a show/game?
Thanks for the warning. As my post relies on Wind Wind, I'll likely post a day or two after them. I expected the speed or one or two posts a week and it doesn't bother me. In all likelihood it will be an even more likely thing as the plot becomes thicker and self-motivating.
Bumping this.

Night Kiss has began, but we're still in the early bits and can absolutely fit in a few more people. The link is in my signature and it looks like we a have group so far!

If you're interested in a vast, mythical world with tons of room for creation, character development, and scheming, you really should check us out.
Jorick said
Yes, early Christians were persecuted by the predominantly Jewish Romans and used the symbol to secretly meet and such; however, as I said in what you quoted, I'm well aware certain religions have been hated and discriminated against before.


I'll expand where you finished about the Ichthys because, you know, early Judeo-Christian iconography is absolutely my drug.

The Ichthys was used as a symbol not necessarily to just meet, but to show good faith. One would draw half in the sand, a simple and non-committal half oval. The other would complete the image in order to show they too followed the Way. I would also note in responding to this question from MDK, that the group wasn't even popularly known as Christians quite yet when this symbol emerged. Generally, those who believed were considered radical Jews, Followers of the Way was a popular term used in surrounding Paul and elsewhere too.

See, the great beauty of the Ichthys is that it's really a Jewish symbol hijacked by Christianity. The symbol was used not for its quick and easy ability to draw, but for what it represented. In Judaism there was a prophesy that a Messiah would come, Messiah not meaning Son of God or any of that, but instead a High Ruler or otherwise Moses-like figure to lead them to a new and better world. This story came up when Judaism still technically hadn't assembled that whole 'afterlife' thing. For a very long while the religion focused on the world as it was and how it could be changed, on Earth, given time. Creations like Hassatan, Gehanna, and Sheol were rarer and only gained popularity with exposure with early Greek cultures, the emergence of Hassatan specifically rousing when the Temple of Solomon was plundered and destroyed the first time. This also led to even more calls for the Messiah to usher in the new land as Jews lost the physical center of their faith and culture (you can see this marked shift in the authors of Isaiah from this time too!). So back to this Messiah, who is very popular at this point. One deed thought to happen would be their killing the Leviathan, a great beast, a serpent in fact, in Jewish lore, and using that one fish to feed the Jews. That last story is big was popular in Judaism, undoubtedly why the synoptic books note the story of the loaves and fishes as well as Passover (among other reasons with that one). The symbol is not just for Christianity, but it's a direct proclamation that Yeshua is in fact the Messiah, as in the and not but another. The Ichthys is a bold statement.

Also, just throwing this out there, early Christians were seen as a sect within Judaism and afforded the right to their beliefs for a while in the Roman Empire. Things didn't change until later, when Christians started separating themselves after the revolution leading to the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 CE. Jewish-Christians were basically absent from the revolt and the schism there only grew. Eventually it became a matter of respecting the empire and power, which I believe led to the executions of Simon-Peter and Paul. A lot of the persecution here did not come as 'You're Christian and we disagree', but rather the requirement for a community to operate and subjugate in one way and refusing. I don't defend the persecution there either, I favour protest in many cases let alone this one, but it's important to know that the belief was not necessarily what caused the targeting.

[quote=Add those two things together and I think they make a decent answer to why there is no special word for anti-religious (or anti-non-religious) discrimination. Give it some time and there might be some ridiculous term (religiophobia maybe? whatever ends up sticking on social media and then gets picked up by news media first will be the one, I wager, regardless of how silly or inaccurate it might be) to describe this relatively new kind of discrimination. Honestly, I'm surprised Fox News hasn't already pushed something like this, particularly Bill O'Reilly with his major segments about anti-Christian hatred around every holiday. Here's hoping that whatever becomes the popular term, it isn't religiophobia or anything as awfully stupid as that.[/quote]

No, please, can it be religiophobia? I mean, religio means wisdom, reverence to an idea, right, so Fear of Wisdom? I love that.

I have to agree with you, Jorick, about religion not being an innate characteristic -- but let's rectify that statement a bit. Religion was an innate characteristic with rituals and stories tied into every bit of one's culture. In many countries and for much of time Cultural Heritage included Cultural Wisdoms, the latter often tying directly to the mythos of their people. These mythos, or in other words stories, need not be about gods or faith, but merely wisdom and truths seen as sacred. Typing this, I guess one would liken mythos to philosophy, in that they investigate how the world and reality works, albeit taking a more symbolic than physical path. The point is I think this deep rooted connection between culture and faith-community does, in a way, make the characteristic innate in that one does not choose into what culture they're born and raised within. Even if one turns away from their faith-community early on, they still have those stories about the manger, the man and the whale, and all that jazz going around in their heads. All that said, I believe America is stepping away from this connection as our population becomes more secularist so that, someday, theism may gain its own word in terms of bigotry.

All that said, I agree with you. For very long the religious have outnumbered the otherwise, and while there may be terms against particular religions or non-believers, with religion usually meaning power, there aren't many against it as an entire entity. It's hard to use oppressive language against an overwhelming oppressor.
The Matrix: Took Judaic stories and created a non-pushy film that shed new light on human limitation and culture
Last Temptation of Christ: Depicted this 'I am God, don't argue' saviour as an epileptic man struggling against Roman occupation. Loved the humanity and, again, lack of pushy take it on faith aspects.
Gnostic Bible: The notion that physical reality is false and that the body is a vessel for the soul, which is not only a true persona but also your 'heaven' is fascinating. Far more peaceful too!
The Rigveda: Hindu creation stories truly make you consider the ideas of sacrifice and how each individual is their own origin to the world.
Doctor Who: The constant belief that humanity is beautiful and is strong enough to throw away fear, help others, and achieve better rubs off on you. It's idealistic, but wow, it's empowering.
Fight Club (Book): Again, our world as it stands is false, but truth can be found within. I only wish this group happened so the change could effect the world too.

I'll explain a few of them a bit more. I found the Matrix moving in the same way the Last Temptation and Gnostic Bible changed how I thought. See, if you watch the Matrix series with Tanakh stories fresh in mind, it becomes impossible to ignore the deep ties to Jewish culture the movie has. They mix some overt references and stories into one futuristic tale that made many people question their reality and I am not surprised. The story held some key elements to the stories of Moses, Solomon, Daniel (Nebekenzor [sp] & I have dreamt a dream but now that dream has gone from me), and some of the gnostic interpretations brought on later. I found this to be a great move. The story is fascinating and interesting, using direct references, but never pushing this 'religion trumps all' message -- more the question physical reality bit. Last Temptation of Christ did this too, book and film, by telling the story of Yeshua ibn Yusef (Jesus son of Joseph) as a young man afflicted by seizures in which he believed he heard voices and saw images. His affliction leas to question his own sanity and the movie doesn't do a thing to pretty up this image. It depicts Mary (the follower) and his relationship, theorizing a badass what-if, and just takes this story people often tell with only one, hard perspective in a way that makes it less faith and more one man's struggle against occupation. The humanity there, I find, is more interesting than the religious fervour.

Finally, Doctor Who. This show didn't so much change my perspective as it reinforced something I rarely find agreement with. Humanity can achieve better, we can do the right thing beyond personal interests, and we can settle conflicts no matter how big with conversation if we try. There is always a solution and sometimes the strongest run while trying to find it. This is possibly the only show I've watched where killing and death are taken extremely seriously and always surrounded by immense level of compassion. Guns aren't fired without a direct emotional impact to the action or implications. I think it's stunning.
Wonderful! Thank you for the responses. I have participated before, but wanted to check up with the language and figured those who haven't would also benefit from my question. The answers were very helpful and hopefully you'll see an entry from me!
Just created it and added you, Beowulf. The link will be on the top page of the OOC.

Everyone Shoot me a PM with your email and I will grant you access to the Doc. After we get to using it more I'll give a second person access to help manage it as future members request access. Oh, and I understand emails can feel personal. Understand that for my work, I often am exposed to extremely sensitive information of people looking to start their college careers. I assure you no abuses have happened, nor will happen, so offering up an email is not a risk to you. You could also just throw up one specifically for this if you fancy.
Thought I'd throw in my biggest bother thus far. Ready yourselves for first-world problems. To be clear, I love my job and am thankful to have one!

Things that have been bothering me... Here's one of the bigger ones, then. I finished my Bachelor's in June and as of August began working part time at a local state college. The very same day I started working there, I attended a forum for a position within the Department of Homeland Security. I'd also just moved into an apartment with my fiancé with room entirely dedicated to my daughter, as she comes over from her mother's. It's been wonderful, well, except for our third game-addicted room-mate --separate issue that one. Anyway, wonderful experiences, interviewing and having medical checks with DHS, slated to begin training next month and will earn a full-time check for that. In the meantime, I have sent many applications out and received only jobs that requested very strange and/or highly inconvenient stipulations (ex. Visiting other cities for work without any travel expenses paid, WTF?). Basically, since August I have been living on a check that pays the necessary expenses and that's it. My life is pretty simple, easy to afford with three working adults, but I literally don't see an extra dollar every month. It bothers me living so close to chest. It baffles me that a college where my co-workers genuinely like me and ask my perspective doesn't have any full-time openings in almost six months. Actually, what bothers me most now that you all know this, are the people who make a point to tell me each day that they wish they had my hours, meanwhile driving to work after picking up some Starbucks and Burgerville (I take the bus and do not have cash for fast food).
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