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Hero Business: A DCU Discord RP

I'd be down for this.

Heroes Reborn: Prime Earth (Superhero/Urban Fantasy: OPEN)

Ogre January 18th 8:11pm
Scar's Edge

Ogre was smiling as the barricade shattered under his weapon's blow watching how quickly the rubble swallowed up the humans who weren't fast enough to escape, the ones who ran back in confused him but if any survived he would get to them later. If they hadn't feared him before they definitely did now after showing his earthshaking might which meant he could track down the leader and make an example of them since it looked like none of the other humans would provide any real resistance. A fact which was honestly...disappointing. There was very little challenge since the first attack on him besides making him take a minute or two longer to reach the wall which left him unsatisfied.

That was until a new and different human appeared from the dust in front of him very weirdly dressed, nice than the rest though. The behemoth remembered the leaders of the other towns looking different like this, though maybe not at fancy, even in the Scar so that could only mean one thing. He had forced the coward out of his hole otherwise the rest would likely find him unworthy and probably killed him for the insult, at least that made sense to him because leaders are protectors and you can't do that from the back. This was exciting even if he could barely understand a word out of the human's mouth but the tone made him quite eager to pummel the newcomer for disrespecting him.

Ogre was ready to swing before the earth erupted below him smashing into him like a wall pushing him back through the air very quickly. He tumbled backwards along the ground before clawing a free hand into the earth slowing himself down as he got back to his feet upset by the cheap shot but not all that surprised as demons held little respect either for such things. The huge man also smelled something different in the air as he was hit vaguely similar to the scent of the Scar but a bit more pleasant. It meant magic but he couldn't place the kind though no magic was good magic as far as he was concerned as he began to walk back maul in hand.

"Your challenge is accepted shaman! You will fall like the rest in the Scar!" The behemoth bellowed out picking up his pace into a charge before letting rip a wide swing using the length of his 10ft mace do its work for now before he decided how to approach this fight in earnest.

Heroes Reborn: Prime Earth (Superhero/Urban Fantasy: OPEN)

Ogre January 18th 8:15pm
Scar's Edge

Ogre was fast but the things shooting at him were faster continuing to pelt and prod until the ground collapsed or sundered ahead of him. A straight charge was far more difficult, that they were delaying him from his combat they started in the first place which added frustration on top of seething rage. Now they were taunting him as far as he saw it holding off time for the coward leader or champion who refused to fight him yet, wanted to see him weakened or tired out before hand. The thought made his adrenaline pump harder because he would not be denied nor would he let them get an advantage so a new way to close the gap was necessary though he didn't know what or how.

This is like mountains, jump! I need to jump!

The huge man sounded out a more triumphant roar as he begun hopping and jumping off the sides of craters or off protruding rocks to gain height while avoiding the worst of the ground he would have been trying to traverse otherwise which meant he was pushing through just that much faster. In fact now he saw the wall in front of him quite clearly making him grin as he saw the squishy humans on top or around it trying with little effect to repel him. At worst he had expected to be turned away but now it was time to teach a lesson to all of them why you don't attack unprovoked. Ogre scooped up a boulder from the rubble in his other hand as he closed in twisting off of a jump to throw it at the upper half of the wall at his attackers with almost glee. He rarely threw rocks because most things were fast enough to run away but a wall? He could hit that and maybe some of the offending shooters on top making it just that much simple to bust a hole right through it, felt like the right thing to do anyway.

The behemoth jumped again but higher to follow up with a downward smash from the demonic maul pulsing in his grip.

Heroes Reborn: Prime Earth (Superhero/Urban Fantasy: OPEN)

Ogre, January 18th 8:13pm
Scar's Edge

Ogre was pretty sure he got his message of arrival across though he wasn't sure anyone had noticed or seen him at first. It was like they were just staring at him in silence which he had to admit wasn't an uncommon reaction to him at first because he was very big and his maul was scary looking, at least he thought that was the reason anyway. What happened next would have never occurred to him as a possibility at all because birds even in The Scar didn't drop things unless they were just trying to get at food so the big metal bits screaming down from the heavens didn't register until it was far far too late. It was like the air around him was trying to crush, break and suffocate him all at once while the ground ripped up around/under him hitting him with many chunks of rock or earth from every direction. The light was painfully bright alongside all of it making his eyes watery and painful before he couldn't see anything but he felt another wave as more and more projectiles hit him or near him smashing him into the ground below further than the first then after a little while everything went still...quiet.

It took the behemoth a precious few minutes to process what had just happened to him because he had never felt a pain similar to this...but this caused a bubbling then boiling to run through his veins enveloping the mind with realization. They just tried to kill him badly like the Three Horned God did! Ogre felt every instinct in his body scream to get up, to hurt them back, he wanted to know why and he would kill those who dared to attack him just like the demons. In this haze it made him think they were just like the demons attacking without warning or a word just pain and so much anger. No...they must be more of the cultists just different both made him so damn angry there was only one way to settle this, one way that he had gotten all too good at. From the bottom of earthen crater where he laid a sudden rumbling began as he tore himself from the stone surrounding him grabbed onto the maul at his side and with a primeval roar charged up slope seeing red unwilling to back down from the human's challenge.

"Big damn mistake!!!" Ogre screamed at the very top of his lungs as his now 15ft form raced forward ripping up the ground with reckless abandon.

Heroes Reborn: Prime Earth (Superhero/Urban Fantasy: OPEN)

Ogre, January 18th 8:10pm
Scar's Edge

Ogre started to notice a very big drop in the amount of demons in the area as he walked having slowed down to not make himself as much of a threat which only reinforced his belief that this was the right way to go. That meant there would be less fighting and more eating he hoped, maybe even some different food from this new settlement or maybe it was a large tribe, he wasn't sure from here but if the other humans came here for refuge there must be something good. After all many of the ones he helped had traded him much of their food if not all just to get to this point alone so that must mean they have plenty of supplies for those who got away from The Scar.

The behemoth wondered what strange new places he would get to walk since the Chaos magic must have made for interesting terrain this far out though he hoped less of the humans would be Blackthorn or just crazy from walking as he had. They couldn't handle the land like he could so he felt bad sometimes but it meant he had more food and shelter so it was also good in a way. These people must be much stronger this far out able to get what they need which was perfect for what Ogre needed because it would mean trade was easier without as much haggling or threatening like normal. This sprouted a big grin on his face as he got ever closer taking a moment to munch on some dried demon meat from his pack before he raised his maul in one hand kind of waving it lightly to announce his presence since it glowed hoping they would see him a bit before he accidentally surprised them, wouldn't have been the first time though he was usually smaller then.

The huge man was sure this would be great after all, they seemed to like people coming out of The Scar and he was people so he should fit right in.

Heroes Reborn: Prime Earth (Superhero/Urban Fantasy: OPEN)

Ogre, January 18th 8:00pm
Outer Scar, Eastern side

A lone figure trudged through snowy ground with a thick hide cloak hanging over them to keep the worst of the cold off during what had been a harder winter than usual in the Scar. It was probably the magic from further in meeting towards its edge making a more extreme climate than it would have ever been in the Midwest a decade ago. At least that's what people from the settlements had said last time he had even bother to ask about what the area used to be, it was nice to think about once in awhile to keep his thoughts warm at least. Soon his trek back to shelter would be over with just a couple more miles though knowing his luck some imps might've settled in near his fire and food. The thought made him push harder towards the building which he had made his most permanent home bringing down his maul occasionally to scatter the snowbank around making it just a little easier to maneuver.

Ogre had been fortunate to find this old house as big as it was he could walk around in it without having to crouch all the time when he grew just a bit too big. He could already hear the chattering from inside to which he issued a loud and annoyed grunt as he stomped forward making even more noise. After that he could see and hear various small demons scampering out of his house in the biggest hurry they had probably ever been in because they knew exactly what would happen otherwise. The huge man had to move around the side to where the only major hole was to step in from there since he was currently around 12ft tall so the door was completely out of the question but it stayed quite warm inside on the other end so it was kind of perfect once the unwanted visitors were run off. Next to one or two towns this was the closest place to rest properly near the outer edge of The Scar so it was no wonder like him the demons took interest in it and even the occasional humans looking to get out of whatever weather tried to kill them next.

The behemoth tossed a log of weird living wood onto the bonfire he made inside as he settled in, he didn't know why it bit or screamed at him but honestly it burned the best so while he had some of it the fire would stay going while he was gone for hours. He had a big leg of what might've been a boar at one point in time cooking moments later on a crude spit while he considered his options for keeping supply up until spring when more of the animals would come back out again. Late winter was always a lean time especially out here so maybe it was time to branch out away from The Scar as the more powerful demons seemed to be hunting out his usual areas probably trying to starve out what they couldn't kill. Ogre was extremely frustrated by this practice but they had the numbers to pull it off in a way he just couldn't counter so now would be the opportunity or excuse as it really was to get out of here if only for a little while. There might be good trade with the people beyond for his hides or tools especially with this cold.

It made far too much sense not to take such a god course, so after vigorously tearing into the Chaos tainted meat off the bone he threw the remains of the leg aside and began to pack his things. With his goods and supplies packed up, maul slung over one shoulder, he began to jog forgoing his previous attempts to conserve energy for the exciting prospect of surviving the winter in comfort with new friends possibly. The huge man wasn't a fool knowing full well they might turn him away like some of the loyalist settlements of The Scar but he had to try otherwise he was going to have to hunt down another Duke or whoever caused him his current troubles. Knowing the distance well enough it wouldn't take him overly long to reach the point where he usually halted in the past only observing from a distance but it was different now and he would not stop simply for his uncertainty that usually overtook his mind. Ogre was resolved this time his wanderlust would be satisfied and so would his belly which pushed him to run wanting to be there as soon as possible.

Heroes Reborn: Prime Earth (Superhero/Urban Fantasy: OPEN)

Ogre

Basic Information
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Superhero/villain Name: Ogre, The Ogre, Terror of the Scar(to demons).
Civilian Name: What is a civilian?
Origin city/Planet: The Scar, Earth.
Hometown: The Scar
Sex: Male
Race: Human?
Height: 7'6" to 15'
Weight: 500lbs to 5 tons.
Age: 10. Looks 25ish.
Birth Date: ?
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Costumed Appearance: N/A

Civilian Appearance:

Ogre

Icon: N/A

Costumed Personality: Ogre is a rather simple and quite primitive in he way he reacts to things. If it threatens him he smashes it with his club or if it stays away he usually leaves it alone unless he is hungry. He is more social towards human living in the settlements/towns dotting the Scar but he is very blunt and a brute to put it mildly though food can endear him to come back more often to protect what he likes very fiercely. Given his general size and temperament Ogre can be extremely intimidating or terrifying to most sane beings which he uses to convince many demons to give him a wide berth. Survival is at the forefront of his mind at almost all times so he tends towards a spartan, often nomadic lifestyle scavenging/hunting as he goes. This life is all he knows and it has colored his views very heavily though sometimes he can't help but feel like something is missing or he is forgetting things.

Civilian Personality: Same as Costumed.

Super abilities:

-Skills:

Path finding- Being as unstable place as the Scar is, especially further in, being able to navigate reliably is an incredibly useful skill.

General wilderness survival- Ogre has been living in a demonic hellhole for ten years by learning where not to go and what not to eat among other common but important information about his home.

Expert Demon/Chaos corrupted wildlife hunter- This is effectively his day job which he does so regularly that unless its a particularly powerful demon or beast its become a mundane thing to him.

Melee and Improvised weapons proficiency- As strong as the huge man is he man not be a masterful wielder of weapons or various heavy objects but he knows plenty of ways to make use of his strength to make nearly anything a deadly weapon.

-Powers:

Super Strength- Ogre has wrestled down a Duke level demon noble with some difficulty, can wield most large and extremely heavy objects as weapons, and has demolished structures and the landscape around him with blows from his maul.

Super Durability/Endurance- The huge man has survived hordes of demons, cultists, magical attacks and once a very brief encounter with the Three Horned God which he would like to not repeat if possible because that put him out of commission for a couple weeks.

Exponential Growth- Ogre appears to be around 7'4" naturally but has reached 15' before when very angry and more likely when fighting tough opponents who start pushing his limit.

-Vulnerabilities: The Ogre's powers seem unstable, particularly changing size, and unfocused most likely as a result of living for as long as he remembers steeped in Chaos Magic. They also seem to have very little in the way of subtlety requiring creativity to make the most use of.

-Gadgets: A pair of binoculars a human from one of the towns showed him how to use.

-Weapons: His demonic Maul he liberated from its previous owner or his fists though he uses basically anything he can get his hands on.

Civilian Occupation: Hunter and Scavenger.

Biography---------

Character History/Origin: Ogre's first memory was waking up chained to a Blackthorn ritual table where several cultists and their leader were trying to stab him while failing to even penetrate his skin. This upset him greatly which set him to struggling against the bindings holding him down that promptly started to bend and crack as he flexed against them. It sent the Blackthorn into a bit of a panic as he started pulping the nearest ones with his fists then ripped up the table in a rage making an even bigger mess of the squishy little men in front of him. Needless to say the leader took an extremely dim view of his ceremony being torn apart so he began firing bolts of magic into the huge man expecting him to fall over after proper show of force. Oh how wrong he was as the rippling behemoth turned around looking a couple feet taller than just a moment ago giving him just enough time to scream before he was ripped in half and then used as projectiles on the last couple of retreating offenders.

It took sometimes for Ogre to properly calm down after thoroughly trashing the general area. He tried to remember where he was or...who? Nothing but blankness answered him which understandably left him even more upset than before so he just ran for what felt like hours hoping something anything would come to him but nothing ever did. After he eventually stopped curled up under the wreckage of some old building it occurred to him that if he was even going to figure out his past actually being alive to use the information might be helpful so first things first he had some shelter, shitty as it was, but food and water would be nice. So he went looking around finding old food and stagnate water around other structures originally because there were many things that tried to attack him away from them. After awhile he started to learn however that the creatures weren't so scary or the small squishy men working with them, in fact some of the demons, a name he only learned later, were actually kind of tasty especially after putting the meat in a fire for a little bit.

The huge man started wandering more around discovering the strange land he found himself living in where things always seemed to shift around always changing bring all new sorts of creatures, beasts, sometimes even plants to fight, eat, or avoid. He hated the place at first but over time it kind of grew on him considering he was getting pretty good at sustaining himself and the nasty creatures began to run from him more often at least the smaller ones did. In a way it was pleasant that he made a place for himself here though it wouldn't stay that way forever as he had begun to severely anger the powerful demon in charge of the section of the Scar that Ogre was effectively terrorizing in a way even his servants feared. It was not something that could stand having a mere human taking part of his dominion away by force.

So soon enough the hunter of demons came face to face with a larger and mightier foe than he had even seen before wielding the largest weapon, 10 and a half foot long maul, he had ever seen with a fire in his eyes that roared out a challenge to him. The Ogre was given a little pause by this because he had never fought a demon quite like this before or one that looked like it could take the fight to him in quite the same way but there was no chance he would back down. The Duke proved to be both strong and intelligent enough to keep him on his toes as trying to get blows in past the giant hammer proved difficult at first even if he used sharpened metal rods, literally rebar made into a spear. This angered the huge man as he had been hit several times more than the demon had and feeling like the blood in his veins boiled what had only been an 8ft Ogre became 15ft of aggression and muscle with only one thought in mind. He managed to get an arm around the haft of the hammer behind the head yanking the weapon as well as his opponent forward with surprising force allowing a thunderous elbow to strike the Duke's face causing the large demon to drop his weapon as his arm and shoulder were all but torn off in the furious assault the opening provided. Leaving the severely beaten and bloody Duke alone for a moment The Ogre picked up the maul carved with demonic runes feeling a burning in his hand as he held it but nothing that would stop him from crushing the formerly proud and honestly foolish demon from having his head cracked open like an egg by the very weapon he used moments ago before his body was slowly dragged back to the tiring victor's camp.

Since then the huge man has held onto his symbol of victory as a warning to all who would stand in his way which dissuaded many from going anywhere near the behemoth except the foolish or even more powerful. His travels through the Scar have made him something of a local legend in some of the towns and settlements and a horror story told by parents to keep their children in line for some others. This did bring the ire of the lord of the land when Ogre got a bit too big for his hide pants as he went closer to the center than he had before where he was summarily beaten like only a millennia old demon could and thrown out very far away like a piece of trash. It was a lesson he has never forgotten mainly because it was the first time he was so utterly outclassed but also because of how badly he was left after waking up what must have been several days, he thinks, later. He rarely stays in more than one place for long since then and a fair distance away from the center of the Scar moving further out recently than he has in the past looking for new hunting grounds and just wondering what to do with himself. Something has been scratching at the back of his mind lately making him wonder if there is anything remotely interesting outside of his home of ten years that he hasn't ever seen before. There had been a couple times the other humans paid him in food to get them to near the edge of the Scar thanking him profusely as they ran further towards structures he could only just see in the distance and admittedly it had him curious but until recently he hadn't felt a...wanderlust quite pulling at him in the same way. Maybe soon he might try to see just what all the little ones were so grateful to see.

Optional information
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Nemesis: Three Horned God, Blackthorn Coven, Demons of the Scar(Imps sometimes).
Allies: None yet.
Team: None yet.

Other: None.

Heroes Reborn: Prime Earth (Superhero/Urban Fantasy: OPEN)

Glad to throw my hat in the ring.

Heroes Reborn: Prime Earth (Superhero/Urban Fantasy: OPEN)

Ogre

Basic Information
=========
Superhero/villain Name: Ogre, The Ogre, Terror of the Scar(to demons).
Civilian Name: What is a civilian?
Origin city/Planet: The Scar, Earth.
Hometown: The Scar
Sex: Male
Race: Human?
Height: 7'6" to 15'
Weight: 500lbs to 5 tons.
Age: 10. Looks 25ish.
Birth Date: ?
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Costumed Appearance: N/A

Civilian Appearance:

Ogre

Icon: N/A

Costumed Personality: Ogre is a rather simple and quite primitive in he way he reacts to things. If it threatens him he smashes it with his club or if it stays away he usually leaves it alone unless he is hungry. He is more social towards human living in the settlements/towns dotting the Scar but he is very blunt and a brute to put it mildly though food can endear him to come back more often to protect what he likes very fiercely. Given his general size and temperament Ogre can be extremely intimidating or terrifying to most sane beings which he uses to convince many demons to give him a wide berth. Survival is at the forefront of his mind at almost all times so he tends towards a spartan, often nomadic lifestyle scavenging/hunting as he goes. This life is all he knows and it has colored his views very heavily though sometimes he can't help but feel like something is missing or he is forgetting things.

Civilian Personality: Same as Costumed.

Super abilities:

-Skills:

Path finding- Being as unstable place as the Scar is, especially further in, being able to navigate reliably is an incredibly useful skill.

General wilderness survival- Ogre has been living in a demonic hellhole for ten years by learning where not to go and what not to eat among other common but important information about his home.

Expert Demon/Chaos corrupted wildlife hunter- This is effectively his day job which he does so regularly that unless its a particularly powerful demon or beast its become a mundane thing to him.

Melee and Improvised weapons proficiency- As strong as the huge man is he man not be a masterful wielder of weapons or various heavy objects but he knows plenty of ways to make use of his strength to make nearly anything a deadly weapon.

-Powers:

Super Strength- Ogre has wrestled down a Duke level demon noble with some difficulty, can wield most large and extremely heavy objects as weapons, and has demolished structures and the landscape around him with blows from his maul.

Super Durability/Endurance- The huge man has survived hordes of demons, cultists, magical attacks and once a very brief encounter with the Three Horned God which he would like to not repeat if possible because that put him out of commission for a couple weeks.

Exponential Growth- Ogre appears to be around 7'4" naturally but has reached 15' before when very angry and more likely when fighting tough opponents who start pushing his limit.

-Vulnerabilities: The Ogre's powers seem unstable, particularly changing size, and unfocused most likely as a result of living for as long as he remembers steeped in Chaos Magic. They also seem to have very little in the way of subtlety requiring creativity to make the most use of.

-Gadgets: A pair of binoculars a human from one of the towns showed him how to use.

-Weapons: His demonic Maul he liberated from its previous owner or his fists though he uses basically anything he can get his hands on.

Civilian Occupation: Hunter and Scavenger.

Biography---------

Character History/Origin: Ogre's first memory was waking up chained to a Blackthorn ritual table where several cultists and their leader were trying to stab him while failing to even penetrate his skin. This upset him greatly which set him to struggling against the bindings holding him down that promptly started to bend and crack as he flexed against them. It sent the Blackthorn into a bit of a panic as he started pulping the nearest ones with his fists then ripped up the table in a rage making an even bigger mess of the squishy little men in front of him. Needless to say the leader took an extremely dim view of his ceremony being torn apart so he began firing bolts of magic into the huge man expecting him to fall over after proper show of force. Oh how wrong he was as the rippling behemoth turned around looking a couple feet taller than just a moment ago giving him just enough time to scream before he was ripped in half and then used as projectiles on the last couple of retreating offenders.

It took sometimes for Ogre to properly calm down after thoroughly trashing the general area. He tried to remember where he was or...who? Nothing but blankness answered him which understandably left him even more upset than before so he just ran for what felt like hours hoping something anything would come to him but nothing ever did. After he eventually stopped curled up under the wreckage of some old building it occurred to him that if he was even going to figure out his past actually being alive to use the information might be helpful so first things first he had some shelter, shitty as it was, but food and water would be nice. So he went looking around finding old food and stagnate water around other structures originally because there were many things that tried to attack him away from them. After awhile he started to learn however that the creatures weren't so scary or the small squishy men working with them, in fact some of the demons, a name he only learned later, were actually kind of tasty especially after putting the meat in a fire for a little bit.

The huge man started wandering more around discovering the strange land he found himself living in where things always seemed to shift around always changing bring all new sorts of creatures, beasts, sometimes even plants to fight, eat, or avoid. He hated the place at first but over time it kind of grew on him considering he was getting pretty good at sustaining himself and the nasty creatures began to run from him more often at least the smaller ones did. In a way it was pleasant that he made a place for himself here though it wouldn't stay that way forever as he had begun to severely anger the powerful demon in charge of the section of the Scar that Ogre was effectively terrorizing in a way even his servants feared. It was not something that could stand having a mere human taking part of his dominion away by force.

So soon enough the hunter of demons came face to face with a larger and mightier foe than he had even seen before wielding the largest weapon, 10 and a half foot long maul, he had ever seen with a fire in his eyes that roared out a challenge to him. The Ogre was given a little pause by this because he had never fought a demon quite like this before or one that looked like it could take the fight to him in quite the same way but there was no chance he would back down. The Duke proved to be both strong and intelligent enough to keep him on his toes as trying to get blows in past the giant hammer proved difficult at first even if he used sharpened metal rods, literally rebar made into a spear. This angered the huge man as he had been hit several times more than the demon had and feeling like the blood in his veins boiled what had only been an 8ft Ogre became 15ft of aggression and muscle with only one thought in mind. He managed to get an arm around the haft of the hammer behind the head yanking the weapon as well as his opponent forward with surprising force allowing a thunderous elbow to strike the Duke's face causing the large demon to drop his weapon as his arm and shoulder were all but torn off in the furious assault the opening provided. Leaving the severely beaten and bloody Duke alone for a moment The Ogre picked up the maul carved with demonic runes feeling a burning in his hand as he held it but nothing that would stop him from crushing the formerly proud and honestly foolish demon from having his head cracked open like an egg by the very weapon he used moments ago before his body was slowly dragged back to the tiring victor's camp.

Since then the huge man has held onto his symbol of victory as a warning to all who would stand in his way which dissuaded many from going anywhere near the behemoth except the foolish or even more powerful. His travels through the Scar have made him something of a local legend in some of the towns and settlements and a horror story told by parents to keep their children in line for some others. This did bring the ire of the lord of the land when Ogre got a bit too big for his hide pants as he went closer to the center than he had before where he was summarily beaten like only a millennia old demon could and thrown out very far away like a piece of trash. It was a lesson he has never forgotten mainly because it was the first time he was so utterly outclassed but also because of how badly he was left after waking up what must have been several days, he thinks, later. He rarely stays in more than one place for long since then and a fair distance away from the center of the Scar moving further out recently than he has in the past looking for new hunting grounds and just wondering what to do with himself. Something has been scratching at the back of his mind lately making him wonder if there is anything remotely interesting outside of his home of ten years that he hasn't ever seen before. There had been a couple times the other humans paid him in food to get them to near the edge of the Scar thanking him profusely as they ran further towards structures he could only just see in the distance and admittedly it had him curious but until recently he hadn't felt a...wanderlust quite pulling at him in the same way. Maybe soon he might try to see just what all the little ones were so grateful to see.

Optional information
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Nemesis: Three Horned God, Blackthorn Coven, Demons of the Scar(Imps sometimes).
Allies: None yet.
Team: None yet.

Other: None.

Anomalous

There we go, got the good stuff out.