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Silvir said
0.0 so many already working on their CS's <.<
As I said, I'm not working on one lol. :P
I'm just waiting for mine to be Emailed to me from the person who currently has it.
Windstormugly said
Yes, which makes it a question of changing between dragon and dragon~I believe there will be halfbreeds/genetically altered/yada yada... so the fact remains to be seen how the Jest implements it.Anyways, it will be interesting nonetheless.Now to get back and work on my own CS.Can't wait to see yours once the OOC is up Drakel ;)
Mine will be premade, from a character I created yet every time I tried to play it the RP dies before I even get close to reaching "his" story.
I'm sure you'll find it quite the enjoyable read.
Windstormugly said
Yeah, I know of the problem, thought that the site didnt have it any longer.Oh, and regarding the mass, it thins out over a bigger volume, which means a lesser density directly afterwards. and the change back is the problem as it causes huge amounts of tissue to be useless, some parts would be able to logically ease back, but it would require a skeletal structure enabling it. Other tissue would basically fall of, like a felling of the old skin. messy indeed.Oh and I guess I misunderstood as I was focused on a change in appearance and not just in stance ^^
Yeah... I would highly not do the top since it'll not only be a mess but would take a long time to recuperate from the first initial change to begin with, added with the fact that it would hurt a hell of a lot to begin with in comparison to my suggestion. Plus again the dragon would be rather stiff as well.
Well changing the stance would also change the appearance in a sense as well. If the dragon is able to naturally walk in both stances than there wouldn't bee too much of a need to change too much of the shape to begin with and again, at maximum it'd be like "popping" your shoulder and would require the utmost minimum energy and pain for such a simple "change".
Of course the dragon would still hold a similar appearance, it's just the stance and the way it walks would change.
Windstormugly said
Ok, RPG really needs to fix this problem with the site multi-posting...
Whenever you see a white screen, don't refresh, just go to the previous page and "go back" and then refresh there... your post should show.
Windstormugly said
True, I am most probably the one the lovely Jest has mentioned.Now, tissue compaction is not that much of a problem, though what I mean as the morphing is not something they would be able to undergo often, as the change from humanoid to dragonoid? would apart from consuming huge amounts of energy/calories make them fairly thin until they have managed to stabilize. And here I am proposing the dragon form to be a light one. The change back would create a bodily rise in temperature as the tissue and bones compact. they would also be a bit stiff as you say, like old people who doesnt exercise and stretch.As you say, a shape-changer normally operates on a cellular level, otherwise by using an extremely fast metabolism and "soft" skeletal structures. And I might add that every shape-shifter that is only able to do one change is not worth much as far as shape-shifting goes.What you are talking about could possibly be classed as a rearranging of some bones and muscles, would hurt a bit, but would make them more able to perform some tasks. I agree that going from a feral dragon to a humanoid is... not advised, the amount of energy, the stress on the body. not to speak of the mind.A pleasure to meet you as well ^^
My main thing is the change of shape AND size. Changing shape, as I said before hand is as simple as saying that there is enough cartilage and space between bones to where they could naturally and easily shift from a more feral dragon stance to a bipedal one, but in turn their feet, hands, initial leg shape (with some slight adjustments here and there) and mass intake would all still be the same. But if size is being changed as well than we have a MAJOR problem, which is a big question of "where did all the mass go?" so unless we add a classic Sci-fi shrink/grow ray inside the dragon's body, it would not work all that well.
As for the shape shifters, I'll agree that them taking only one to two shapes isn't all that much but in the end if they can dramatically change in shape like that than there really isn't too much of a reason why they can't change to other shapes as well besides them not wanting too, which would be VERY understandable because, as you said a lot of energy is being used to do such.
Not really what I was talking about... what I'm suggesting wouldn't effect the muscles or bones too much since the change would be very minimal, main thing that could change would be the bones spacing out a bit and the muscles would hardly change, especially if they contract like you said but again that would make them very stiff in the lower body and the change would, yes, still hurt a bit (kinda like "popping" your shoulder bone) but after the initial pain it should be all good until they decide to "shift" again and it really wouldn't effect the entire body, just the legs.
Windstormugly said
I'll just have to add to this I feel.Size and mass changing morphing are well within the science of most sci-fi stories. And to be a shape-shifter means being able to take a wide variety of forms, whereas this would be a single shape-change, logically a compaction of the bones and tissue. Which is not that special I might add.
If you compact the tissue than the dragons would be very stiff unless they hardly had tissue to begin with if they are going to be tightened that greatly or there would hardly be much of a change. What I was suggesting is basically the same thing but with the latter where there isn't too much of a dramatic change. I'm not saying size and mass changing aren't within sci-fi's forte but I am saying that a dragon completely changing naturally would be unlikely.
Also no, to be a shape sifter all they need is the simple ability to change from one shape to another naturally, though then there is the problem of if they were capable from changing from one shape to another than they are also capable in changing into other shapes as well and would more likely be doing such on a cellular level.
What's being done here is that the dragon is still a dragon but is also capable in taking a more bipedal stance added with the more feral one too. Both of which is basically what spike was talking about and while main muscles would probable compact like you said their main body structure wouldn't take too much of a dramatic change. If their legs are hind, even when bipedal their legs would still hold a similar shape overall. But a dragon shifting it's body from the classical feral Dragon (more likely what spike is wanting) to a more human shape (which would take too dramatic of changes to efficiently happen, especially in the feet and legs area.)
Also, you must be who jest has been talking about, if I'm correct. A pleasure to meet you.
Silvir said
Well doesn't like that depend. 0.0Are their bodies capable of holding a lot of mass and morphing?? <--(Sci-fi knows no bounds) XDO.o im getting curious on that dragon species
sci-fi does have some bounds, one of which is science being used in it to be Science Fiction. If we took out all of the science from Sci-Fi by making it have no bounds than it wouldn't be sci-fi at all but instead it would be just pure fiction.
Also if their cellular structure was able to morph and change the shape of the body from one point to the other (a giant 20 ft dragon to a 6.4 ft human) and morph like such than they wouldn't be dragons at all but instead they would be shape shifters. Which is why I asked. However if they were basically what I said and they hold the same shape and such but they are capable in standing on their hind legs efficiently with minimal effort thanks to their bone and body structure, thus making them technically able to "shift" from four legged dragon form to a more bipedal dragon form... of course their natural height would still be relatively the same. I'd go with 8'6 to 12'3 when it comes to the size of these space dragons.
Mike the Bloodwolf said
The second one I guess. I mean orginally Mike and Sashia could switch between dragon and half breed form.
What do you mean by "Switch?" Are they basically still dragons that can walk well on their hind legs?
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