Fisheye

The New Order(Post WW3 RP)

Dinh AaronMk said
Don't fucking rape it you pieces of shit.

I thought we already settled that China was still going to be a top-grade superpower on the world stage. They're still going to be same-old same-old OP-as-fuck China like they are in OTL, so I think you can calm down. There will be no China-raping :P

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shadowkiller912 said
And while I was thinking of SA, I thought of Japan and decided to pick them instead. Note it will not be a super nation but have problems.

Hey-oh, Bos.

Anyway, if you're going with Japan, you should note that Darkwolf (Russia) and I (India) have been waging war on the regional superpower that is the People's Republic of China for the last ten years (and won just last year). I'm not sure if you want to get Japan involved in any way, but the opening is there if you decide that you do.

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Dinh AaronMk said
Stealing Tibet from them would probably be enough and to let the area sort of become like Asia's Alascea-Lorraine pre Second World War. But China'd have enough strength and resources behind it that you probably wouldn't be able to force them to start releasing everyone.There'd also be the cost of the war itself that'd still do a number on them, as it would anyone else. So you shouldn't need to tear the Communist Party a new ass hole.I wouldn't have a protest. I could even mention it later on.

Sounds fine to me. All I really wanted to gain from the war was to challenge China's hold on Asia, firmly place contested Himalayan territory under Indian management, and liberate Tibet to place it under Indian hegemony. By this point India's pretty fatigued with war (and who can blame them, all things considered) and would have wanted to ended the war with China as swiftly as possible.

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Dinh AaronMk said
As a repeated note I will absolutely need a China strong enough to exert influence. If you rape the shit out of China it invalidates my story-arcs and I'll feel lost and really incapable of going on because I won't have any consistency with anything.And given the rate of Han-izing China there wouldn't really by any Manchus to support a solely, Manchu nationalist state. So there'd be a good chance it'd just re-annex itself to China proper.

In that case, no Balkanizing. I still need to have won the war and freed Tibet, though. I'm completely fine with having China be powerful and able to exert hegemony (more powerful than myself, even) as it should provide some interesting challenges, but winning the war is paramount for me. Anyway, if I am correct in assuming that you want them to still be a powerful force in Africa, than I have no issue with that- I just wrecked some parts of southern China and pressured Beijing into a peace-deal. They're still a major player on the world stage.

As for the release of Manchu, that was just a light suggestion. I have no clue what Darkwolf plans to do with China after his victory, and subsequently can't really speak for him (he didn't even mention Manchu, I was just rambling as I oft do).

Also, Dinh, if your le Armie sans Frontiers had the men to spare at the time, do you mind if I put in my sheet that I employed a relatively small force of your mercenaries in northern Tibet/southern Xinjiang against the Chinese three or four years ago? They'd be doing hit-and-run operations to hamper infrastructure and drawing Chinese troops from the battle-lines. You'd be paid (of course) and it seems to fit moderately well with your whole shadow-war against China. Anyway, just a proposition, my story-arc/history shouldn't hampered if you deny, it's just for fluff.

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TheEvanCat said
I want to see China and Japan broken down into like, county-sized feudal states for the hell of it. Make the map look like it has chicken pox.

Well, India did a little of that to China during the 'WWIII' period. Tibet is now released from China as a independent country (with the political guidance of their friendly neighborhood hegemon India, of course), and has been its own nation-state for a year now. Darkwolf (Russia) and I have also been entertaining the idea of making it so that Russia, India's ally, swooped in to the Asian WWIII, an Indo-Pakistani conflict over Kashmir which escalated to the point where Pakistan launched nuclear warheads at western Indian cities (most notably the capital, New Delhi) and India retaliated by sending an unnecessary amount of nuclear missiles to more or less obliterate Pakistan. China, wanting to decrease the position of India in Asia to leave themselves as the unquestionable continental superpower, stepped in and declared war on India to halt their Chinese-labeled genocide and bring stability to southern Asia (stability coming of course with a big helping of Chinese hegemony and influence).

At this time India had a state of emergency going on and had a military government in place, so China assumed Russia (a historical and RL Indian ally since the Cold War era) wouldn't step in. Russia did, however, and China lost their two-front war, ceding contested territories to India and releasing Tibet under independent rule beneath the new Dalai Lama. I have no clue what darkwolf wanted out of the peace treaty, but I assuming he might release Xinjiang or Manchuria... or just take some land. Anyway, afterwards China could have experienced mass rebellions and the like, subsequently Balkanizing, if that's the feel we want for China.

This is all unofficial and unconfirmed thus far, but I hope to get it approved when my Nation Sheet rolls in.

To Lund ap Lunds [ Early Middle Ages NRP ]

This looks like it could certainly be interesting, though I think I'll wait to see what exactly you had in mind as far as rules go before I commit. Will you be aiming for a natural set of guidelines enforced by a GM or number-based stats?

Anyway, I like the general concept of the RP, with the idea of a poor series of minor lordships beset with endless hardships and plagued by petty wars. How much cultural diversity will there be within Lundland, and if there isn't too much what RL cultural region did you plan on basing the setting on?

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gcold said
Fisheye you finished exams?

Tomorrow holds my last four tests, and then I should have an extra three hours each day to devote mostly to RPing.

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I should have my Republic of India sheet completed soon enough. Everyone is still interested in this, right? There seems to have been a slight lull in activity, though I imagine Finals are causing much of it.

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TheEvanCat said
If nukes are used, expect Iranian intervention. I've set up Iran to be some sort of apologist power that, after overthrowing the Ayatollah in what essentially was , the reinstated Shah is trying to stop all this instability and place Iran on the world stage as a "good guy" who goes in to wartorn countries and helps, mostly to make up for the Ayatollah's decades of dickery. They have troops in Turkmenistan that did a highly publicized government-building campaign in 2038, and I'm doing troops into Iran now. It's realistic that peacekeepers would be in Pakistan and India to help, especially if it's been nuked. Reconstruction, aid, decontamination, etc. Iran was neutral during the war (too focused on its internal issues like a growing revolt against the new hardliner Ayatollah who basically killed all the moderate policies set in motion by Hassan Rouhani during the previous Ayatollah Ali Khamenei reign) and it's had a pretty strong, self-sustaining economy (that you can see them building right now) because of the sanctions that cut it off from the world - this removed a globalization aspect that would have crippled it otherwise. This creates the situation where Iran is a strong regional power with a mindset to curry favor with its neighbors, bring in a new era that's distinct from Islamic Iran's hostility, and repair instability that could threaten it.TL;DR: Expect Iran to be in your shit.

Humanitarian aid from the Iranians would certainly be welcomed in India. Assuming Iran doesn't try to involve itself in India in any way other than pure aid and assistance, I'm sure you'd certainly be laying the foundation for friendship and future cooperation. You might also be able to call up a few favors in India as a result of the aid. Anyway, despite the growing resentment of Islam among the Hindu Indians and Hindu nationalist government, I could see help from Iran being welcomed and appreciated.

Also, I plan to have made Pakistan largely desolate in the course of the war due to an arguably unnecessarily severe reaction to a Pakistani nuclear strike. Pakistan at this point may be likened to what Central America is to be in this RP, in that it's mostly lawless and in ruins, but with the kicker of residual radiation and nuclear fallout. India has taken the disputed regions in Kahmir (a bit more than the disputed territory, really) despite fact that it's blanketed in fallout and utterly war-torn, but besides that has made no effort to restore Pakistan or help stabilize/rebuild the region. With the Taliban and other rebel groups controlling the largely stateless region which was once Pakistan, this could be a golden opportunity for your Iran to step in and restore order. Hell, make a puppet if you want, India's just about sick with dealing with Pakistan, considering the destruction the whole situation brought about.

Oh yes, and the nuclear fallout from the exchange between India and Pakistan would have affected most of South Asia to some extent. So sorry about that, but Iran might have some mild to moderate fallout issues.

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Dinh AaronMk said
The Indians aren't necessarily Buddhists, so they wouldn't care. The only "powerful" people I can imagine who would care are the Eastern Spirituality minded western folk. And their governments would really have more going on than trying to position themselves on one side of what would then be a theological succession crisis. Tenzin has said that when he is reincarnated it will be anywhere but China, and the Chinese government has gone through the legal motions that effectively allows them to approve a Dalai Lama; this has interesting implications for Tibetan Buddhism, but probably isn't on the list of things to accomplish by any current world powers.And the scale of the conflict would probably be continent wide. This is projecting forward current Maoist dissidence in the Eastern part of the country and a pattern of ignoring various ethnic or social groups the current, powerful Indian Nationalist Party doesn't care about, and bad Pakistani-Indian relations that could ignite into a nuclear exchange for Kashmir.The point of destroying India's economic abilities in a devastating war as a theater of the greater War was for me to talk about how parts of Africa are trying to use the economic window to finally expand their economy as ASN - my faction - patrols central Africa trying to keep the peace as per a contract privatizing large parts of their security. The damage to the world food supply by removing India would imply to them a chance to maybe expand themselves in their already low-standing on the tiers of economy. They're trying to produce the rice and wheat India did.I could also see Beijing challenging Delhi's power in the chaotic state of the world and moving in to keep a powerful neighbor in check so they can claim absolute hegemony over Asia. And I think both nations have territorial disputes either one could press when there's no one policing the world anymore.

The idea behind India's attempted restoration of an independent Tibet isn't necessarily a religious one. They'd be looking for a justification to cripple their main adversary (the other continental superpower, China), take disputed territory in the process, and pass it off as a justified war to liberate a peaceful theocratic nation from the big-bad-commies while simultaneously placing that nation within their sphere of influence. It's a power-grab neatly disguised as a just and necessary war, really.

Anyway, I think I'll go forward with the limited nuclear exchange between Pakistan and India, and will probably try to tie both wars together to make it a it more pitched and hectic. The spot will certainly be a hotspot for conflict, both before and after the start of the RP, I'm sure. Anyway, Africa will certainly be getting the economic window you spoke of I suppose, now that India's going to be hit hard.

Well, I'll start researching a bit more and try to weave together an equally hectic and believable situation for the war. I had originally been planning to RP a moderately powerful, somewhat stable, and very hegemonic India when I claimed it, but it seems that you've easily steered me towards wanting to craft a more dire and dystopian setting for my nation.