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In dogecoin 11 yrs ago Forum: Spam Forum
Economists have studied how and why nations fail economically for centuries now and we KNOW how to keep a nation afloat. We posses the economic knowledge of how to succeed financially long-term. A non-government affiliated bank is the only way to do so if your primary interest is longevity. Sad, but true. These people study economy for a reason and they're much more knowledgeable about the subject than some conspiracy kook who thinks the Fed is run by Israel.

The whole reason the Federal Reserve exists in the first place is because the U.S. economy already failed once because everyone decided to print their own currency (those same people, if they had access to the internet back then, would have been the people who today produce BitCoin/DogeCoin/CumCoin/etc. algorithms.)

When President Abraham Lincoln assumed office he understood the importance of money for the war effort. With this in mind Lincoln appointed Salmon P. Chase as Secretary of the Treasury. As Secretary, Chase alone was authorized to act on all matters pertaining to the country’s finances. Chase, like almost everyone at the time, underestimated the duration and cost of the war.[2] Within a few months it was clear that the costs of the war would run far beyond the government's limited income from tariffs and excises.
The Lincoln Administration sought loans from major banks, mostly in New York City. These banks quickly ran out of money to lend and, in turn, went to European banks for more. The European banks demanded very high interest rates of 24 to 36 percent. Lincoln refused to borrow on such terms and called for other solutions.[3]

The amount of Demand Notes issued was far insufficient to meet the war expenses of the government, but even so was not supportable.
The solution came from Colonel "Dick" Taylor, an Illinois businessman serving as a volunteer officer. Taylor met with Lincoln in January 1862, and suggested issuing unbacked paper money. Taylor said "Just get Congress to pass a bill authorizing the printing of full legal tender treasury notes... and pay your soldiers with them and go ahead and win your war with them also. If you make them full legal tender... they will have the full sanction of the government and be just as good as any money; as Congress is given the express right by the Constitution."[3]
Issuing unbacked paper money was not an idea Lincoln really liked, but soon there was mounting pressure in Congress to do something. The government could either print its own money or go into deep perpetual debt to foreign creditors. So the President was quick to endorse Taylor's proposal.[4] On February 25, 1862, Congress passed the first Legal Tender Act, which authorized the issuance of $150 million in United States Notes.[5]
The Notes were printed with green ink, but on only one side. Despite this difference, they were called "greenbacks" by the public, being considered equivalent to the Demand Notes already known as such. These Note were issued by the United States to pay for labor and goods.[3][6]
As the government issued hundreds of millions in greenbacks, the value of the greenback against gold declined. But though the decline was substantial, it was nothing like the collapse of the Continental dollar.
In 1862, the greenback declined against gold until by December gold was at a 29% premium. By spring of 1863 the greenback declined further, to 152 against 100 dollars in gold. However, after the Union victory at Gettysburg the geenback recovered to 131 dollars to 100 in gold. In 1864 it declined again as Grant was making little progress against Lee who held strong in Richmond throughout most of the war. The Greenback's low point came in July of that year: 258 greenbacks equal to 100 gold. When the war ended in April 1865 the greenback made another remarkable recovery to 150.[7]


Government-backed fiat currency can't work unless you tax the fuck out of everyone, which in turn will devalue your currency, creating a negative loop.
Government issues backed-currency/not-back-by-gold -> Money enters circulation and people lose faith in government -> Money is devalued -> More currency must be issued to increase cash flow and artificially lower the price of currency closer to that of gold standard -> Money loses value and people lose more faith -> Money is devalued -> More currency must be issued to increase cash flow and artificially lower the price of currency closer to that of gold standard -> etc.

Now the question you should be asking yourself is, what does faith have anything to do with strength of the dollar? Everything. Employers pay employees based on 2 things: minimum wage laws + what they believe the employee is worth. If this amount stays at X value for long enough, X becomes the standard. Once X becomes the standard, any factors which impact federal treasury directly impact your salary and this X standard, causing the value to go up or down (usually it stays static or decreases by .000003% over time.)

I'm always amazed some people think they could come up with better long-term solutions than economists.
There's only one "Good" economic system and that's a Barter System. But that's not realistic unless you're interested in giving me your daughter's virginity for 5 goats and 2 turnips.
This third-person shooter is ridic fun. If any of you in Spam play it, let's team up and kill some bots.







My name on Loadout is "BigBoobBetty"
Munk said
But then again, there's stuff like this:And I totally get why a vegan household would be upset about someone cooking meat and cheese. Of course some vegans are too zealous about it, but I wouldn't go around cooking pork in a Muslim kitchen. This isn't much different to me.


It's different because a Halal/Muslim diet provides ample nutrition.

Forcing your kids to be vegan is starvation/malnutrition which means that Child Protective Services SHOULD get involved.
idlehands said
I'll never understand why people feel entitled to touch other people's shit. Slapping a milkshake out of someone's hand based on food beliefs to leaning on someone's car out in the parking lot or those people that go into a store and have to manhandle everything on the shelves. If it doesn't belong to you, don't touch it! I should have put that on the pet peeve list.


This was one of the first lessons I learned in elementary school - keep your hands to yourself (unless someone asks you to touch them )
Working on OOC right now, I promise it won't be too detail-heavy.

Everblight said
I've pretty much finished my character already. All I need to do is the Bio I think.


Good to hear, I don't put a huge emphasis on Character Sheets since I'd rather find out who your character is in the actual RP. Feel free to PM me if you want me to look it over before OOC goes up.
idlehands said
This reminds me of when I lived in Austin in my early twenties. I was working at UT and living at one of the co-op houses they have near the campus. Now these houses are great, they're old Victorian homes with communal restrooms and kitchen/dining area, people share chores and all that. The houses are labeled vegan, vegetarian, carnivore/vegetarian friendly. I was naturally in the carnivore house up until my lease ran out but I was not ready to move so they found me a room for a week in a vegan house. My boyfriend at the time was a pescatarian but he never bothered me about eating red meat. So we go to this vegan house, unpack and get settled in our room and head over to the living room where everyone is gathered around watching TV. I'm assuming it's movie night. Nope. It's propaganda night. They're watching this graphic video about chicken farms and slaughter houses, probably to remind themselves why they should be indignant and disgusted. I declined to watch and was given the stink eye from everyone. The next day, after a long day of work pulling text books at a warehouse, I grabbed some pizza left over from lunch and went to heat it up in the microwave. The smell of melted cheese and pepperoni must have filled the air because within minutes I had about 5-6 vegans surrounding me in the kitchen, screeching to high heaven that I had defiled their microwave. I offered to clean it with bleach and apologized because I didn't know that they were that freaked out about animal products that it was not even allowed in the house, let alone appliances they cook with. That night they had a meeting to decide whether I would be allowed to stay or not. I had to sit on a chair and get lectured about vegan propaganda and why what I did was so awful. I had to suck it up because I only had 5 days left before I was going to leave the city. Since then I just can't stand vegans. I know like every other movement, there are zealots who give it a bad name but that whole incident just annoyed the shit out of me. TL;DRVegans shit bricks when I heat up pepperoni pizza in their microwave. Make me stand in judgement of my actions.


Ye shall be judged by our divine vegan council.


Blitzkrieg said
Try living next to a college that specializes in Natural Resources. There are so many people like this and worse here. I was at a friends house last year, some chick smacked the shake I was drinking out of my hand and told me she just saved my life.....that shit was blueberry.....I fucking love blueberry :(


No class, SMH. An omnivore would never do something that rude.

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The Imagination said
I actually read an article where vegans called CPS on their neighbors for feeding their kids "poison", which turned out to be, yes, normal food like meats and dairy products. Apparently CPS did a whole huge investigation on it, until they found nothing wrong. I mean, I've known some nice, friendly vegans before. They weren't like, stupidly religious about it even, some even broke their own rules and ate meat when they went out with friends every so often. Also I believe theres a certain type of Vegan that gets their protein from dairy products. But man, can people overdo some shit. I about lost my shit when the chick at the end was befuddled as to why someone would feed their cat meat.


Well, if they're consuming dairy they're not actually vegans. They're vegetarians.
Veganism = no animal products, including no butter and no honey (THINK ABOUT THE BEES!)

Veganism is extremely extreme, there has never in the history of mankind been a vegan society of any sort. Even Hindus are only vegetarian as far as cows are concerned, since the cow is sacred to their culture.


Heisenberg said
"Oh my god there's salt in my salt!"


In other news, water is clear and the sky is blue.

mdk said
Isn't Byrne Dairy just the shit?I mean.... I just assume you're talking about Byrne Dairy, because they're huge. And awesome.


Nope, that's not who I get it from, but I do know of Byrne. I get it from some Arab family farm through a Brooklyn-based vendor that connects consumers with raw dairy producers. They also (sometimes) have Camel Milk stocked, but usually in the summer.
Card said
There's something deeply disconcerting about the philosophy behind the obsessively healthy lifestyle. Being healthy and a desire to be healthy are extremely beneficial things, but it seems like they occupy themselves so much with this lifestyle. Some people exercise constantly, never treat themselves, and just keep filling their lifestyle, so that they can fill out or empty their frames. I understand that "healthy lifestyle" varies from person to person, but I can't wrap my head around people who want to fill their lives and schedules with anything for any reason. I can understand necessity, but I've heard of people who have worked themselves into unhappiness, so that they can be healthier (and therefore happier, which is the irony). Life should be enjoyed and savored, and if that means dying weaker and faster, I'm okay with that. It reaches a threshold where I'd rather live the way I want to and die the way I don't rather than the reverse. "Carpe diem" isn't just YOLO for not stupid people; it's very different, actually. "Carpe" also means to chew slowly and savor. If you're spending your whole life trying to improve your life, what's left to enjoy the new quality? It's like spending your whole life building your PC. When do you get to use it? Those are some very loose and poorly worded statements that I threw together, pay them no heed.


The term for this is Orthorexia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthorexia_nervosa

Like anorexia, except unhealthily obsessed with health. I rather like eating healthy, but I don't let it consume my life. After a few years of eating healthy, it becomes second nature.

Beatrix said
lol I saw a video that would put PETA to shame. They choose their words very carefully to engage our emotions... Pathos if you will, to get people to switch to a vegan diet. Now, Mike and I are wanting to have a farm with pigs, chickens, cows, goats, and even a water system that gives nutrients to the fish and the fish water gives nutrients to the plants, but the land animals and the fowl will die with some sense of mercy. The fish will suffocate anyways. Would we sell the meat and the eggs? Hell yeah. Some people would eath that shit up.Although, I think buffalo would be a better choice than cows, as they grow quickly and big like a cow with hormone injections and steroids, but I want milk for the household for many, many things.


That's such a boss idea. Make it happen. I'd love to own a few chickens to get fresh eggs, since I eat a crapload of eggs, but I doubts my chickens would like living in NYC.
And yeah, there's a big market for raw/unpasteurized dairy too if you guys get cows. I get my milk delivered to my apartment from upstate/rural New York every few Wednesdays since it's illegal to sell in NY groceries.
The Nexerus said
"Salt contains sodium chloride!"That's the biggest scandal since it was discovered that the water provided in many U.S. cities contains high levels of dihydrogen monoxide!http://www.dhmo.org/facts.html


I remember my high school teacher played the dihydrogen monoxide joke on us 8)
He handed out a paper that had all these dangerous statistics about Dihydrogen Monoxide and then we were taught chemistry nomenclature.
natsumehack said
took more then 5 minutes to read you lair.


You read slow. Took me like 3.5 minutes.

Also you're the LAIR!

Beatrix said
They sound like a bunch of PETA people.


Some of these people put PETA to shame and make them look soft.
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