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Alrighty~
Q: If there are Heroic Spirits like Archer, who was summoned independent of time axis, is it possible for warriors from the future, who are loaded with modern weapons, to be summoned as Servants?

A: Although modern weapons are powerful, it is difficult for the users of modern weapons to be classified as Heroic Spirits. The advantage of modern weapons is "anyone can use them as long as they were trained", thus it is difficult for the user to become a Heroic Spirit, whose definition is "the one and only". The users of modern weapons are faceless heroes. If there are indeed heroes who are loaded with modern weapons, the users will not become Heroic Spirits, as they are merely "experts anyone can achieve through sufficient training". The actual Heroic Spirits being worshiped will be the "greatest weapon of that era". However, for the weapon to become a Heroic Spirit in this case, it must harbour a soul.


Nope. Sorry.
Well well well, look who decided to show up.

Congratulations on your Saber get. I'm proud of you.
Nah, it's the cause of her stats. Prana Burst is actually a Phantasm Race skill, it's something that members of the Phantasm Races like Medusa's pegasus have innately.

…No, its defense is already at the level of the dragon race. Because that Pegasus has divine protection exceeding even Saber, who has the strongest magic resistance. Its charge, emitting vast amounts of magical energy, is like a giant castle wall approaching. There is no possible way to dodge or defend against such a thing.


Prana Burst is something natural to the Phantasmal Species. Every time they attack, they're using their prana burst skill. So if you don't use that intrinsic skill, you won't get to that level. Saber gets that thanks to the dragon, but without it she's physically weaker than Shirou and Rin.
Let's Go On A Date! said So here's what I found out today. One, do not gamble with Saber.
Two, a rule where the winner is the one to have ten more hits than the opponent can end up in an infinite hell if the ones playing are at about the same level.
And lastly, Saber is physically weaker than us if she does not use her magical energy.


Without Prana Burst, Saber's just a weak teenage girl. Prana Burst is what lets her fight on par with everyone else. Rin!Saber has A rank STR because Rin's a better Master than Shirou. Or more accurately, because she's an excellent Master and is capable of maxing out Saber as a Servant. If you're not a good enough Master, for instance Shirou or Kotomine, then your Servant will be weaker than they would be otherwise.



But yeah, Cu and Herc have the same STR rank, though Herc has a modifier, and Not!Kojiro has a higher AGI than base Herc. Servants =/= Heroic Spirits. The Servant is generally a nerfed version of the Heroic Spirit. First they're limited by virtue of being a half-rate copy, then by the Grail system, then by the Class system, then by being crammed into a spiritual core. In that way, Herc who lifted the heavens and Francis Drake are able to be put on the same "scale". In the case of stronger Heroic Spirits like Herc, the Servant won't live up to the hype.

If you're still having some trouble understanding, let me know.

You're now marked down for Ahchah.
Grey's decided he feels like Rider, so that's now reserved.
Herc had B+, A+ with Mad Enhancement, but his base parameter was B+. Modifiers are temporary, ranks are permanent. His rank is B with a modifier.

The "Saber can Prana Burst from B to A" is fanon. Prana Burst doesn't make her parameters better, it's what gives her the parameters she has. Without it, her STR and whatnot are all "1". I'll get the VN quote when I'm back at my dorm if you want, on my phone now.

But yeah, it takes a girl with a dragon powering her and Rin-level Master support to hit A rank STR. Herc, who is Herc, with the best possible Master and a Western Europe summon, gets a rank of B.

Base A rank STR is hard to get. You can get it through boosts like Natural Body or Mad Enhancement, but at base? Really hard.
Esra might be game for a chat, as she at least wouldn't react to Tyrithe with immediate annoyance, as opposed to how she might react to some others. Probably. They could work out a deal, potentially~
Updated Esra's CS with her opinions of Tyrithe and Hurrian.

Also, if Vecatrius gets accepted there'd s good chance of a solid amount of tension between him and Esra. Both utter tyrants with similar origins and similar natures of control, at least in terms of their mentality/overlap.
The OOC is up.
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