GuyYouWishYouDidntKnow

Gods of Roa

Oh, if we should say if we'd like to be considered for that, then myself as well.

Gods of Roa

I'm still around, naturally.

Fate/Eunoia

"That may be so, but --- Is it really not good for a sorcerer to be exposed to others?"

"Indeed, it's bad. Although it wouldn't really matter socially, the power of your sorcery falls. Do you know the origin of the word 'mystery', Kokutou?"

Touko-san asked that as she brought her body forward on the desk.

"When you say mystery, do you mean the sort of mystery in mystery novels?"

"In a way. Not the detective novel sort, but mystery in the mystical sense."

"Yeah, I do. It's originally Greek, not English."

"... Well, that's true. In Greek it means to close something. Signifying stagnation, concealment, and self-completion. You see, a mystery has meaning in the fact that it is a mystery. Keeping it hidden is a nature of the technique. A sorcery that has had its nature revealed can't become a mystery, no matter what kind of supernatural methods it uses.
It's nothing more than another method. Once that happens, that sorcery instantly becomes weaker.
Sorcery was originally magic too. In short, there was no question that the strength was pulled out from the origin that was its source. Should we imagine for a moment that there was something along the lines of a 'mystery that makes you rich'? Let's say that this has a strength of 10. If only one person knows it, they can use the entire force of 10 of its power. But if two people know it, that it gets halved into two units of 5 and gets used like that. See, it's gotten weaker, hasn't it? The way of expressing it may be different, but I think that this is a fundamental rule in regards to everything in this universe."

I can't understand all of what Touko-san is saying, but I think I get the point she is trying to convey.

If concealment and obscurement is the law of existence that thing called sorcery exists by, I understand why mages would be reluctant to reveal their sorcery in front of others.

"In that case, you must do as you please where others can't see you, Touko-san."

"Nope, I don't."

Zkk, Touko-san started talking as she stubbed out the cigarette in her ashtray.

"I wouldn't have a choice in a battle between mages, but otherwise I don't use it even if I'm alone. The only time I use sorcerous techniques is when it's required for a ritual, or in a ceremony in order to proceed to the next level."

Some time around the medieval era or so, an organization called the Association was formed. Because of their excessive regulation of sorcery, the Association foresaw the degeneration of mages. So they took the power of their organization and turned sorcery itself into something that is never revealed. What they did was to take a mystery that was visible and turn it into a mystery that no one knew about. As a result, mystery began to disappear from society.

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The RP's official Kayneth (may he rest in peace, 199X never forget, stop rib on mercury violence) is approved.

It goes without saying that every other Master will know she's here and what she can do and everything, though.

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Tatsua Aiisen said
Should I just Maido Magus, or a joke character?

Whatever makes you happy on the inside.

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Sublimation said
Oh ok someone took the Middle Eastern curses spot, and I had worked on a list of 42 Jewish and Islamic curses lol fml.Could you explain to me what the Supreme Ultimate is?

There can be two people who do that, it's not like there are slots for magecraft. Also you didn't reply in PM or anything.

Supreme Ultimate is Taiji, like Taoism and whatnot. It's like the attempt to capture "all under one".

A philosophy originated in ancient China, a graphical representation of the Yin-Yang theory.
It attempts to capture the essence of everything on a conceptual level: those that are active are defined as Yang (white), and the opposite are defined as Yin (black).
The Taiji symbolizes opposing concepts such as day and night, light and darkness, male and female. At the same time, you may also call it a condensed version of the ever-changing, dynamic World.
Furthermore, there is a dot of Yin in Yang, and conversely a dot of Yang in Yin. This indicates that the distinction between Yin and Yang is not absolute. There is darkness even in light.
Taiji is the "one" at the beginning, the Yin and Yang that divide the "one" are called Liangyi (Ryougi).

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MULTI_MEDIA_MAN said
Beowulf's change is counting the mad enhancement. I'll put pin the non-enhanced stats as well. As for self-reinforcement, that makes sense. No self-reinforcement then. Not really a huge hit to any plans, was just wondering mostly.As for the fall of the Attwater family, the head of the family was planning to intentionally reveal magic to the world. He wanted to force the Association to help the people of the world. Also, the 30 generations aren't like Archibald or Tohsaka family generations, where each head of the family dedicates their life to studying magecraft. Only about seven or eight generations have really followed the pursuit of magecraft, with the generations in between just passing down the crest out of tradition. The family was never friendly with the Association, which is why Dalton's decision to obey them was so noteworthy. I mean, the family's real history before the fall isn't a huge deal. If you'd prefer I have it just be a few generations before or after, that's cool. I kinda just went with the first number that came to mind. I never really intended for the family to be this huge thing o.oAnd crest passing on bit should now finally be fixed.

Alright then. It's not a huge thing from an apping standpoint, so I won't be super-uptight about it, so that ought to be fine. At least his family being disgraced is a viable reason why he's been forced to go to this backwater ritual in the first place, so that's fine.

Just one thing, the family head at the time of the fall would have been really, really, really stupid. I mean, you can keep that, but yeah.

See, magecraft is all about mystery. The more people who know about it, whether they're normal people, other magi, or even you, the weaker magecraft gets. Most magi actually don't really use magecraft save for a couple times in their whole life, because just using it in front of yourself weakens it to an extent. That's why magi keep all their stuff super secret, they're not evil monopolizers like the True Magicians who could give their snowflake powers to everyone and help humanity. They keep it secret because magecraft will literally cease to exist otherwise. And even then, magecraft sucks a lot in the modern day, cause anything done with magecraft can be done with science by now, and in most respects science has made magecraft obsolete. Magecraft's just getting weaker and weaker, making it totally public would be the complete death of magecraft, so the idea "make everyone know about magecraft so we can help people with it" fails when doing that means there's no magecraft anymore.

You don't need to change that, that's just so you know how bad of a plan that family head had.

Anyway, Dalton's approved.

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On Beo:

During his charge, Beowulf's Endurance is buffed to A (A+ under Mad Enhancement),

So, A+ isn't the next step up from A. A is 50, A+ is 100, so if it's buffing his END to A then under mad enhancement it'd be a hypothetical rank above A with a value of 60.

Just replace the "A+" with a "?". Everything else looks fine.

Though keep in mind using that NP with his E(D) rank MAN is going to make him really close to fading away from prana loss, so it's a very high risk strategy to take. If you're okay with that, then just change what I said above and you'll be good.

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MULTI_MEDIA_MAN said
For some reason, the Berserker edits didn't go through. Should be good now. Added generation numbers. No self-reinforcement? I guess, but...is there any real reason for that? It doesn't seem to have been a real issue for users, as both Rin and Shirou were easily capable of doing so.

They're bad examples for standard magus business, seeing as Rin is Rin and Shirou has abnormal circuits. Reinforcing a living thing is the peak of Reinforcement, so given the level of expertise in other magecrafts, living being reinforcement's a no. Also:

FSN said ""That's not true. I can at least use strengthening magic" "Strengthening… that's an awfully odd magic. So, you can't do anything other than that?"

So yeah.

A 30 generation family is a huge deal. Like, an absolutely huge deal, even if they were disgraced. Kayneth's got a top tier pedigree to the point where Lorelei's family doesn't completely look down on him, and he's a ninth generation. Even if it was a century ago that the fall happened, they'd still be one of the highest-ranking families in the entire association at the time of that fall, elites among elites among elites. What caused a fall of that level?

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Beowulf:

During his charge, Beowulf's Endurance is buffed to A+, but his Agility is debuffed to C.

Is this counting or not counting Mad Enhancement boosts?

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On Dalton:

-Put the number of generations his family's been around for
-I didn't see this before, but the Crest would have been fully transferred to him well before he became 19
-On Reinforcement, that's fine, but he'll only be able to reinforce objects. No self-reinforcement or anything.

On Beowulf, you don't seem to have changed any of the things I said to change.

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The family has no true desire for a wish from the Grail, but want to use the War itself to assert their dominance as a family.

So like, that's the thing. If this family's been around for a long time and is already pretty well-established and influential, the ritual being performed in hillbilly country isn't going to be on their radar. Like I said, Kayneth in the Fourth War was like having Leonardo DiCaprio show up at your high school to star in your theater club's play, him winning Best in Show (or whatever a suitable award would be) from that won't make every other famous actor be like "wow, Leo really is the king".

You can just make it a whim, like he was just like "I'm gonna beat up weaklings and show them how real magi do it", but it doesn't make a whole lot of sense for a family on this scale to actually have considered this war as anything beyond that, let alone having considered preparing for it.

Magecraft's now fine, be careful of those self-curses though, there's a pretty obvious risk if you misuse them.