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Right. So I'd been holding off on this for a while because I figured I could deal with it, but I'm having a hell of a time seeing this as fun. Sorry to do this after taking up time to apply as Caster and all, but I'm out. The degree of fluentness you want with the canon and the pickyness on each and every subject just doesn't jive with me. I can understand that it's what you enjoy and how you want to run your RP, but it's not for me. I hope my dropping out doesn't significantly hamper the RP and that the spot gets filled soon; there were certainly a number of people that seemed disappointed about the roster being filled, so here's hoping one of them can step up.Peace Out.


No worries. We do this for fun, after all. If you're not having fun, no point in participating.

If nothing else this'll give BB and Sakaki a brief reprieve from my pestering while your slots get filled.

Best of luck~
Correct.
BB said
Just spreading Ebola chan's love.


Don't forget, watchers at home, you can't cure love!
小聖杯を巡り帝国陸軍やナチスを交え、帝都を舞台に戦いが繰り広げられたが、小聖杯が破壊され 失敗。
The Imperial Army and Nazis clashed around the Lesser Grail. The battle was fought on Imperial turf, but the Lesser Grail was accidentally destroyed.


Ah right, my bad. Got confused, for some reason.

Either way, it's not contradictory, you just need to check the wording.

Q: Even though it should only happen every 60 years, was the 10 year gap between the Fourth and Fifth Holy Grail Wars as short as it was because the Lesser Grail was destroyed before the Greater Grail could direct the accumulated mana to establish its pathway trapped some unused mana in the Grail?

Third War would have just seen the Grail destroyed too late in the game, when direction had started but hadn't been completed. Of course that's never said outright so it's iffy, but it's the quickest way to non-contradiction.

I'm suggesting that an exhaustive investigation conducted over 6 years by an inhuman intellect might turn up a pattern.


You're overestimating how much Atlas cares about the outside world by a lot. Either way, the only people around for the event you're saying they know were Kiritsugu, Gil, and Seibah, info gathering doesn't change that. They can know his ideology, sure, that wasn't what I was speaking to.

Atlas' first director took information and extrapolated all the way to the end of the world


Mhm, but that's the point of Atlas. Their whole basis is that their alchemists will reach the result that you can't stop the end of the world, and will go crazy once they learn that and do everything they can to override it. It's just the result of MATH.

Not even Sion can do what you're saying though, and you're sub-Sion by a lot.

Problem is that you're trying to solve a math problem when you don't have the variables. It's not like Dust of Osiris's Not!Moon Cell, you're way more limited than something like that in terms of your intel. You've got that in War Three the Einzberns screwed up for some reason and the Grail got smashed, then in War Four there was a tentacle monster and the Grail got smashed again, and that time when it got smashed the place it was in got wrecked. That can lead to "Yo, something seems weird with this cup, maybe it's evil". That can't lead to "the grail has been tainted by something literally evil, it no longer grants wishes, and the contents are dangerous".

Anyway check what BB said on the other stuff, he put it together better.
BB said I'll cough on you.


Love you too~
Materials, Reagents, and the Cradle are all fine. Do keep in mind synthesizing materials will take some time.

However:

~The Lesser Grail of the 3rd war was destroyed, preventing victory from being claimed. This is why the Church were called in as mediators




They were called in after the Second War because everyone was like "WHOO NO RULES NO PARENTS".

Third War became a battle over the Lesser Grail with the Nazis and whatnot, but I don't recall it ever being said to have been destroyed.

~Gilles de Rais, a notably evil man, is summoned into the 4th war as a 'Heroic Spirit'. This shouldn't have been possible with the Grail's system


That wasn't really public knowledge. Even the mathematicians aren't going to know something like that.

Despite being in a position to win the war, Kiritsugu destroyed the 4th war's Lesser Grail


See above.

The Lesser Grail has been destroyed before without interrupting the 60 year cycle, so the theory that the mana from the 4th war was recycled being the cause of the premature 5th war doesn't hold.


Nani?

Q: Even though it should only happen every 60 years, was the 10 year gap between the Fourth and Fifth Holy Grail Wars as short as it was because the Lesser Grail was destroyed before the Greater Grail could direct the accumulated mana to establish its pathway trapped some unused mana in the Grail?

A: That’s true. In fact, you could say that the function of the Greater Grail was already muddled when when it was impregnated with Avenger in the Third War.


Similarly there was no widespread destruction following the 3rd war's Lesser Grail's destruction; unlike the disaster that followed the destruction of the 4th war's Lesser Grail.


Can you give me a source on the Third War's Lesser Grail getting destroyed? It was a fight over the Grail, but like I said, I don't recall it being said to have gotten destroyed.

Investigation of Kiritsugu past (while difficult, 6 years chasing leads is a long time) could turn up a number of freelance sealing designations and his behavior during them. With that data the recurring ideal of 'sacrifice the few for the many' could be seen, bringing into question his reasons for destroying a wish-granting grail that could carry out his ideal.


See the Kiritsugu thing above.

From my point of view, the bare minimum conclusions that can be drawn from a thorough investiagtion are that the grail has been tainted by something literally evil, it no longer grants wishes, and the contents are dangerous. While she might not know it as 'mud' per se, and certainly hasn't made the connection to Angra Mainyu, she understands that the contents are in an altered state and pose a danger to the world.


Like I said, the suspicion that something's "wrong" with the Grail System is fine, but it'd pretty largely have to be vague. The level of information you want just isn't available.
Art of Fun said
@Rinnee | Gnar | Raijin | Chukkle, accepted! Raijin, the image in your bio is broken by the looks of it. @Guy, OW THE EDGE accepted


My power. My edge. Wow. Something about crawling in my skin, etc etc.
I descend.

Or something.



Yulia is capable of synthesizing mythological metals (I.E. mithril, oricalcum, adamant(ine), thokcha, etc.); as well as other alchemical products such as Alkahest and Panacea (their actual effects fall short of the mythological all-dissolving and all-curing properties).


What can all of these do?

Reagents and tools for alchemical crafting


Specify what this contains.

Lion's Cradle


How much wire does she have, not counting the replacements?

hroughout the next six years Yulia collected extensive data on the past Holy Grail Wars and the Grail War system, and through deductive reasoning understands the current state of the grail's corruption to a certain extent. Despite knowing of the Grail's flawed wish granting, Yulia has an interest in the Corrupted Grail's content: the 'mud'.


What did she do to figure all of this out? Keep in mind that neither the Church nor the Association had substantive records on the Grail's corruption prior to the Fifth War, especially not in regards to the mud. You can change it to something more of a suspicion that there is "something wrong" with the Grail, ergo just making her knowledge on it vaguer, or if you have a way to justify her getting that kind of intel, that's fine too, but just research+deductive reasoning is too vague.
Alrighty~

Other teams, make team names or have team names be made for you.
Tatsua Aiisen said
Then it's decided, Team Gae Maid is a go.


You want me to edit that team name into the OP? Team names are fun.

Also, that makes four pairs made~

And my prediction regarding a certain pair of apps seems to have been spot-on~
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