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<Snipped quote by The Nexerus>

But that line between what you view as intelligibility and actual evolution in dialect and slang in pockets of culture is basically impossible to define, attempting to organize any set of rules for language based on intelligibility and avoiding ambiguity should be exactly that. Governing beyond understanding on a casual level is simply emulating some archaic linguistic history for the sake of those setting the rules. In the context it's fairly easy to understand what "..Post if Your Depressed" means. It isn't laziness, it's people realizing conflating the two words is convenient and the next step of evolution for the word-- you can understand what is being said based on the context of the sentence.


In this case, yes, it was clear what meaning was intended - but that would not be so in every occurrence of a your/you're mix-up. You cannot, therefore, simply conflate the two words at all times without at some point creating unnecessary and excessive ambiguity.

Nor can you say that the words should just be conflated sometimes; that one should only bother to differentiate between the two, i.e. stick rigorously to the rules of the language, when one believes ambiguity may be caused. By doing so you would simply introduce yet another layer of confusion, adding into the equation the questions "are they bothering to differentiate or not, here?" for the reader and "should I bother to differentiate?" for the writer.

One can only conclude, then, that the two words can never just be conflated. They must be kept separate and used appropriately.

The rules of language exist as a method of standardisation, to ensure all people who speak the language can mutually understand one another. The only rules that should exist are those that aid in this endeavour - I agree with you on that account. But this is the thing: rules must be rules, not vague guidelines to be followed at whim, or else there is no point in having them. If rules are treated as guidelines, to be ignored or dismissed at random according to the fancy of either reader or writer in the moment, they simply end up self-defeating and neutered in their effectiveness. They must be abided by at all times in order to avoid this; in order for language to fulfill its one and only purpose, which is to communicate. Ambiguity is a language's greatest foe.

Now, admittedly this all seems very much like an "on principle" sort of thing, I know. In reality it's okay to bend the rules or make mistakes, and people will often still understand you. But upholding those principles is still vitally important - because if you don't then, as you said, over time things will evolve - they will just get messier and messier until your language is very inefficient and difficult to communicate in. Which is not what you want.
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you, apparently
In Hey Spam 9 yrs ago Forum: Spam Forum
<Snipped quote by Halo>

Well, he has spent magical evenings in Amsterdam with Sora...


well that's enough to confirm my arbitrary suspicions beyond any doubt :D
In Hey Spam 9 yrs ago Forum: Spam Forum
Welo, it passed after a good night sleep So your all worthless geeze , but I'll remember Halo's advice for next time.


The fact that you actively recognise it's just down to hormones in the moment of it happening already puts you way ahead of most of your peers, so I wouldn't worry about it, you gonna be just fine boi
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My English classes were always excellent for teaching us how to write essays, as was History. Conversely to you, it was Psych that completely failed to educate us on what they were looking for in an essay. I ended up writing mine like an English/History essay for my first one and got marked down for incorrect structure.

Just go to the teachers and ask them to show you an example high-marks essay. Once they produce that, just use the same structure. If they criticise you on it, you can point to the example and say "point out the differences between my structure and the example essay." Boom.
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Language itself only exists because people believe it's important. The English language isn't a product of nature, so obviously its rules aren't either. Also, this is an appeal to nature fallacy.

<Snipped quote by Dracas>

Language's constant state of flux is not a reason to defy the structural rules governing language, but rather to reinforce them in order to sustain intelligibility in spite of the change. What is considered acceptable occasionally changes; that does not for any reason make it wise to abandon all rules determining what is or is not acceptable. Words are spelled a certain way. Words can only be put together in a certain way. Spelling a word incorrectly or organizing a sentence incorrectly introduces ambiguity, which is antithetical to the entire purpose of languages.


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In STATUS SPAM 9 yrs ago Forum: Spam Forum
there is this fucking amazing function called PMs - you should try it sometime
In Hey Spam 9 yrs ago Forum: Spam Forum
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Completely undeserved, I might add...


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