Kestrel

The Library

Same place as your piper post, I'm guessing ;p

Lyzan said
Brovo, you can go ahead with your reply if you wish. I need a couple more days.. My head is stuffed with the busyness of real life to come up with something at the moment..

Try not to vanish for months this time, mate ;p

EDIT: Also, looks like I need some posts up again, eh? Hmm...

Let's B!tch. I feel it's a healthy release for our roleplay annoyances 2.0

Right, well that was pretty confusing then. Minimalism and wordplay both have their own fans and that's fine. The reason I put my arguments forward was because you kept using absolutes and said you had to 'juggle' two elements, suggesting sacrifice on one part or the other. Fortunately, that's all cleared up now.

Let's B!tch. I feel it's a healthy release for our roleplay annoyances 2.0

Prince said
There was no actual given context. Not everyone enjoys Shakespearean literature, nor even understand it, but that doesn't lower its quality. It is preference. In roleplay, there is a juggling act for literary elements and roleplay elements, but personal preference still exists.

You're seriously losing me here. I understand not every roleplay has the same level of accessibility, but if you put purple prose above clear interaction between players you're moving away from the very concept of roleplaying itself as you're making interaction and communication more difficult on purpose. Unless you have a super niche group or whatever. The arguments over the symbolism in flowery literature for one have been plenty. Well that and the curtains were fucking blue. Which is fine discussing when it's a non-interactive art-form but... Well... You need people to understand your stuff to work with it, y'know? Drive it too far and you'll end up alienating people. Which is silly when you can have literary elements and not alienate people (as much) by structuring your post and... I'm repeating myself. Here's a tl;dr version.

Let's B!tch. I feel it's a healthy release for our roleplay annoyances 2.0

Well, that difference changes the entire experience, but that's another topic altogether.

However, if someone gives you the critique you mentioned, it probably meant "Your posts are difficult to understand to me." It may or may not have been communicated clearly, but that's beside the point. Either how, you can choose to respect this, or dismiss it. However, respecting it doesn't automatically mean going full-on one-liners. I mean, as I mentioned in my previous post, it's probably fixed by putting small descriptions of what is most essential to know before the expositions each paragraph. Like for example; "The room smelled of roses." Before going into detail about the effect the smell has on your character, the nuances of the smell on the atmosphere, or whatever you want to portray. Just adding this sentence before the exposition will make things clear to co-players; they can easily understand and identify the building blocks you're giving them.

So yeah, I'm not really sure where you're coming from when you point out it's all just preference. Unless understanding an entire post or not should be counted as preference, but that'd be rather silly a statement, don't you agree?

Let's B!tch. I feel it's a healthy release for our roleplay annoyances 2.0

Actually, I'd argue that because an RP is primarily interactive, making sure people can easily pick up on the interactive elements in your posts is beneficial for all parties. Most of these can be short and sweet, barely distracting from the atmosphere in a post. If this information is obstructed by flowery wording, that is a valid point of criticism. It means you either need to find balance or structure, not that you should let your writing style swing to one extreme of dull and clear or another of flowery and incomprehensible.

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hit dat boiler

Let's B!tch. I feel it's a healthy release for our roleplay annoyances 2.0

Tydosius said
I respect your comment, but I'd like to address this. Constructive criticism is perfectly fine. Only destructive or constant criticism is truly rude. Another thing is, society considers it only acceptable to judge someone or something when they ask for it, or when they deserve it, which is a decent thing to believe.

A lot of people don't come here to 'improve' their writing, but rather to play a game or indulge in escapism. It's kinda like you're having fun playing casually Sonic and exploring the level, then someone walks into the room and starts telling you how you could have gotten a better time. That's still unwanted criticism.

Also take note a lot of people don't take criticism very well and another lot of people doesn't give criticism very well.

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Fallenreaper said
Surprised its not Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon among those. >_>

Cage-fight dragged out, but did you get to talk to a dragon yet? ;)

GM Dilemna - How do you guys deal with this?

Except if you're the one using the words 'writing skill', you're communicating "I'm looking for people better than you." Which is a pretty shitty thing to say. Specify what you're looking for. If it's grammar tell them their grammar is not up to scratch for your liking, if their sentences are confusing point that out. Never use the term 'writing skill' because it's such a broad term that doesn't relay any message other than one of "I'm better than you". Even if you don't want someone to be part of your RP, you should treat them as an equal.

Other than that, ain't got nothing that hasn't been said.

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Fallenreaper said
:Which 3?

Free Billy. Piper, Clayman.

Valeric said
Also, Kestrel isn't the type of GM that spends all his day plotting how to murder his players.

Yeah, this actually comes pretty naturally ;)