Komamisa

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Actually, now that I think on it, I do have a question in regards to the Fae (two, actually: is it Fae or Fay?): so you (TheHangedMan) had mentioned that the Fae are predominantly benign/good-natured creatures, placing them rather solidly in the territory of the "seelie" mythos, does this mean that their actions and mentality are things that humans can understand and predict?

Rather than personalities completely lackadaisical and unfathomable to humans, that is.

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Ah, okay, I can see why Sepcarim and Ouramancers are two different things, thank you for clearing that up.

That a Sepcarim is a random mutation makes sense as well. As I had mentioned, I feel that the Ouramancy trait is as a reactive evolutionary thing, I didn't really see a reason why a bloodline would suddenly "adapt" itself into becoming one of Sepcarim. I suppose I just asked because of Monks, seeing as it's a pretty common RPG Class, as well as a real-world theological profession.

Indeed, about 40% of my understanding of things in this RP comes from a background of obsession with Type-Moon/Nasuverse magic. Which is also where I got my impressions of the Fae; in the Type-Moon lore as whimsical, unintelligible and downright spasmodic creatures of significant power and magical developments that typically live in an entirely different dimension that isn't necessarily parallel to our own.

Ahhhh, okay, I understand on Akasha-Deviancy. I wonder how other Magestravi and Sepcarim feel about that bunch, haha.

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Alright, reply train starting. Pardon my absence, I was sleeping the day off since I was sick.

Damn this quoting system.

Imperfectionist said
Mm, my idea for Ouramancers is that if a bloodline that has gained such abilities continues to practice the mysticism they originated from, every child in that line who would have been a general Magestrava become Ouramancers instead. So, they are much rarer than the general populace, but the numbers are altogether more predictable, as there are only a few families in each area who boast such power (maybe magic, specifically Ouramancy, is more common among these families, as well?).:)

As for your character background, do you think you might be able to blend it with mine a little? After all, my character's family is one of the few in Lismos with the "gift", as it were, and yours (she? he?) would have to have observed it in action somewhere, right? What if they knew each other before being enrolled in the Academy? I always like it when characters have pre-established rapport.

Right, right. Family traditions are the long-road to gaining Ouramancy traits, but they're also much easier to maintain/survive through over having demons and/or celestials bothering your family for a few centuries. It's probably best to think of Ouramancy as an "evolutionary" response in a bloodline to be able to deal with higher beings, as if contact with them also has mutagens get shoved into their reproductive organs. Unfortunately, having said gift subjects them to a crippling overspecialization, it seems.

Sort of like how the highly evolved birds of the Galapagos wouldn't survive outside of their part of the islands, or how Pandas wouldn't survive if they weren't so cute (LOL).

Anyway, hmm... I can see the backgrounds being blended, yeah! Though I would prefer if the characters themselves do not know each other directly, as my character is planned to be seeking out Ouramancers to help her family out with their... problems. It's perfectly reasonable that she'll know of the premier Ouramancer families in Lismos, and that she and her family would be seeking their help. Inversely, it would be known that her family is having quite the problem with demons.

Shifter_Master said
I get the unfortunate feeling I live in a different time Zone then the majority of you, why do the good ones always have to be out of synch T^T

Oh, don't you worry, aside from the fact that I slept for 18 hours today, time zone means absolutely nothing to me. I live in Texas, but I essentially run on GMT +9, yet I also maintain contact with friends in GMT +/- 0. So if anything, you'll probably almost always have me to roleplay with :P\

While on that note, for the convenience of everyone else, what time zones do y'all live in?

TheHangedMan said
Sepcarim are simply born with more. More control, more tolerance, more sensitivity, etc. when it comes to using these energies. They were born with bodies that were crafted through chance that can specifically handle their abilities.

In theory, a Magestrava can do what a Monk and Syker can, but again, only superficially. It will take more than a miracle to reach what they can do with ease. As for Shamans, they are more sensitive to the movement of Nature - their perception of it is largely different from everyone else's, be they Magestrava or not. They can see and interact with it on it's basest form, which is a gigantic living organism. Basically, they can see the Circle of Life and ride on it.

So ultimately, it's a form of innate talent/natural genius versus hard work/learned genius within a specialized field. So does this mean that, like Ouramancy, the traits of Sepcarim are inherited through a bloodline's affinity toward said traits? Likewise, would that qualify Ouramancers as a form of Sepcarim?

I can see a slight irony here, where a Magestrava might find theirself jealous of a Sepcarim's innate and ridiculous control of a branch, easily and thoroughly controlling something they can only dream of having such fine power over; whereas a Sepcarim might be jealous of a Magestrava's flexibility and potential, covering the majority of fields that they can't even hope to find proficiency in.

TheHangedMan said
Just keep in mind that Akasha-Deviancy is the absolute highest epitome of all magic studies. Talent, hard-work and luck mean nothing alone when it comes to this branch; you have to bring all three together, but even then it's not guaranteed. It is the ultimate goal for every Scholarly inclined Magestrava, and I will put you through hell if you even attempt to study it - that's just how difficult it is.

Type-Moon references abound (okay, perhaps not)! So that makes sense, many a Magestrava's ultimate goal would be to reach the sum-total of knowledge, the Akashic Records. But it's such a hard road that they may strive to only scratch one facet of all-knowledge—that is, mastery over one school or another.

It's rather understandable that someone trying to learn... Well... EVERYTHING will be put through hell if they tried to learn. While this isn't my character's goal, I'm looking forward to see if anyone will be attempting this arduous task.

Makes me wonder just what it takes to be a teacher in this field. Or maybe they're secretly divine beings having fun and posing as teachers. Hah.

Shifter_Master said
*Snip*

That sounds... really fantastic, lmao. Can't wait to see what you produce! He'll be a fun character to be around, no doubt. I can clearly see that Imperfectionist's character, having some degree of contact with the true and only weilders of Akashic-Deviancy (higher beings, that is), would be a go-to for someone looking to control it, themselves.

Sounds like Imperfectionist will have quite a lot of people going after their character for different reasons. This'll be fun!

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@Imperfectionist & @TheHangedMan

Sorry, Imperfectionist's confusion on the Fae may have me in part to blame, in that some of the things I have theorized might have mixed together with what TheHangedMan has explained of them. I have no questions of my own on the creatures, as everything that's said about them makes a great deal of sense to me.

In other news, I started reading the Dresden Files, since I have a feeling it might help me out a bit, lol~

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Note that everything I say is purely theoretical or observational, and always based on my own conjecture and/or understanding of what has been said. I don't claim to be representative in any way of TheHangedMan's opinions, ideas or established lore.

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From what I understood, a bloodline can also gain the Ouramancer disposition by having a history of interactions with Magical Beings, or having a sufficiently powerful ancestry for the spirits to form a minor guardian deity.

That being said, both situations require plenty of luck, or ludicrous amounts of hard work that won't even pay off for the immediate participants. On that note, due to my planned character backstory (should it be approved), it's quite possible that my character's possible future children, grandchildren, etc. would inherit the ability to perform Ouramancy.

Imperfectionist said EDIT: The idea of nature abhoring destruction confuses me...

May not be the answer our dear GM would make or have in mind at all. But in a sense, the spirits/energy of nature tend to prefer a "natural order" to things. That meaning: nature is a fickle thing. While natural disasters naturally occur, forcing something as vast, moody and powerful as nature to take an unnatural course through magic is like trying to control fate itself. So, in a more direct definition, the destruction brought about by a natural disaster is just a matter of course, while destruction using forces of nature via manipulation of the Karma that constitutes it is destruction—otherwise, it can also be thought of as the destruction of the natural order.

If we wanted to get truly philosophical, we could start inquiring as to whether or not the actions of humans constitute the "will" of natural order, or if humans are innately unnatural and all actions taken by humans are subject to nature's scrutiny. But, I'd rather not go there.

Leotamer said
Basically, I am thinking about having a character with some interaction with the fay and went off the deep end because of it.

Essentially, that entails a, "Congratulations on stumbling upon the domain of fairies!" award. Fairies are... interesting creatures. If TheHangedMan is influenced by the lore I think he's using for the fae, then they're a particularly strange species that have no sense whatsoever of human values and typically can not be seen by humans. They live in an entirely different world, a sort of parallel dimension that they'll only come out of for their own devices or if someone of particularly strong aptitude in magic (or extraordinarily good/bad luck) contacts them to gain some form of artifact.

More on your topic, getting brain scrambled by the blue and orange morality fae is pretty plausible, whether the character had purposely contacted them or merely stumbled upon them.

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Highly proficient in Outsorcery, an athletic character that also has a keen interest in Pythomancy. There would be interest in Ouramancy, but the aptitude and predisposition just aren't there. Despite what being athletic and skilled in outsorcery may imply, the character is more than muscles.

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Imperfectionist said
I was confused when I first looked at this, but I assume it's a typo. You meant "Magestrava/Magestravi", right?

Assuming his pronunciation guide for the singular form is correct; unless the "i" is silent, then yes, it's Magestrava.

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I don't aim to impress, but when I do, I feel happy. :P That's really cool, to say the least.

Oh? That premise makes me even more interested in this roleplay, I didn't think I could look forward to it anymore than I previously had, hah~

Well, that's just perfect, then~ And now that I looked at it more finely, your avatar lead me to an interesting manga. Things to read!

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Ah, random question, in the character sheets, do you have any issues with manga-style art? I ask ahead of time so I can plan my appearance section accordingly.

TheHangedMan said
Yes, Ouramancy includes speaking to the dead, which are technically classified as 'Lesser Magical Beings'

Which leads me to a thought (pardon the following mess): in some Eastern lore, ancestral spirits for some bloodlines occasionally garner enough power/prestige to be considered as minor guardian deities (even as "minor" deities, this still implies a certain amount of power exceeding that of lesser demons), usually having to do with burial and rites traditions, along with a historical connection with the supernatural. I might be looking into it too much, but as a tie-in with Necromancy, could that mean beginner-level Ouramancers might be able to act as spiritual mediums for their bloodline's ancestors, should their history be strong enough; would those strong familial traditions/connections in mysticism affect their chances of being born with an Ouramancer's ability?

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To note, I'm currently planning on someone that specializes in Outsorcery, with a great deal of interest in Pythomancy. Expect backstory tie-ins as to why~

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Thank you for your detailed reply. I quite like how you've envisioned your magical system, so count me as definitely interested! It really fits well with how I've always liked magic.

I notice that the magical terms are of Asian/Eastern influence rather than those of the much more common Western schools of magical theories, does this apply to elements as well (i.e. Earth/Wind/Fire/Air/Void[Mana] or, perhaps more fittingly, the seven chakras)?

Though I realize the definition of elements may be more flexible as you did mention "Various and specific styles and branches of magic".

Apocalyptic Supernatural RP with a Twist: End of Days.

Also interested, Character Sheet underway. On second thought, I'll watch a bit longer.

Sword Art Online: Rising Phoenix

Hello, count me among the numbers of those interested in a spot if one appears!