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Somethings Can't Be Forgotten

I would have been very surprised if he continued to feel guilty about it after she did that. It almost puts them on even ground, emotionally. They're definitely going to kind of hate each other.
I do that way too often. I think I get the question and begin writing it and by the time I've written out the question, I've gotten to the answer.

Elizabeth probably only told him the bare minimum of what happened with her and Jaspin. When they first meet, I imagine Jonathan will have a slight negative bias towards him, then it'll quickly get really negative when he sees how his mother reacts to having him around, then maybe slightly better if he ends up deciphering that Jaspin still loves her.

It's brutal, yes, but Elizabeth isn't in a place to not be brutal. She has all these people to look out for and they're never free from the risk of exposure. She needs to keep very tight reins to keep everything together. I'm willing to bet she's killed, or had Bela or Nadya or Rowland, kill rogue vampires that were hunting in her grounds and risking exposing them all. She's gotta do what she must to keep people in line.

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I find the amount of guilt you say Jaspin has about what he did to Elizabeth interesting. Now it makes me want to think, does Elizabeth feel guilty about burning his house down?
I'm gonna venture out on a limb and say no.

Actually, it was kind of the other way around. Making a family is what pushed her to mostly get over him. Raising Jonathan gave her something to focus her love and attention and womanly instincts on. It was a great distraction. But there were probably moments when she couldn't quite get around talking about it, like when lil human Jonathan looks up at his new mother and asks why he doesn't have a father to speak of like most of the other kids.

Okay, I see what you mean.

It was from her wildest days, really doing whatever she wanted without regards for the wellbeing of the clan. After she kept ignoring the safety of the clan, was chased out of a town, and went back to the clan shell-shocked and a bit meeker, Elizabeth broke her finger off for a lesson and permanent reminder of what'll happen if Nadya crosses a line again. She did something similar to Bela. A not-so-subtle reminder that Elizabeth will done out to let her wards know, without doubt, that if they cross the line again and endanger them all, she will kill them.

Needless to say, Nadya has since taken it down a notch.

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Yes. Yes he will.
How interesting that he still talked about her to his wards for some time. I don't know how much Elizabeth spoke about Jaspin. I would expect that she almost never speaks of him, and only Jonathan and Rowland know anything about him. Rowland, as Elizabeth's confidant, probably knows the most.
But good, intimidation is good. That'll make for such an interesting dynamic.

Yes, you can. I liked some aspects of the old picture but, let's be honest, the old picture is less pretty. The other model is just less pretty.
Also this model gives off more of a mysterious, otherworldly air than the old model. Though I always did enjoy the old model's pissed off expression.

She has another.

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Elizabeth

• Birth son's name was Peter

Jonathan

• Has primarily studied anatomy and medicine
• The most comfortable and eager to socialize with humans of anyone in the clan, and the best at blending in
• Birth last name was Donnet
• Loves children and would love to be a father

Eleanora

• Physically attracted to Bela, but surprisingly faithful to Jonathan despite it
• Still fond of sweets, despite not needing to eat
• Close to Jonathan in comfort and ability to socialize and blend in with humans
• Despite having two children, has no desire to be a mother
• Staunch atheist

Rowland

• Has never been married and has no desire to get married, but if anyone asks, his (fictional) first wife's name was Jane

Nadya

• Missing a ring finger - Elizabeth tore it off
• Very talented with embroidery and wood carving
• Really loves wildflowers

Bela

• (Healed) scar-covered arms from his soldier days
• Unhealed burn wounds from Elizabeth
• May or may not be in love with Nadya
• May or may not have a very deeply denied dream of running off with Nadya, adopting human children, and raising them as a family
• Has also been known to hit on Eleanora

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Ooooohhh, that's gonna be really fun to watch. Elizabeth would hate her just observing her flirt with Jaspin, but if he behaves nicely to her for like five seconds.... Yeah, expect to find Abigail dismembered in a ditch somewhere. by the time Elizabeth becomes matriarch of her clan, she is not even remotely in the realm of fucking around.
I'm curious, how long are the clans around each other before Abigail knows Elizabeth is Jaspin's former lover? Or does she know beforehand? Because if that's a discovery she makes, how does she react to Elizabeth after that? Does she flaunt it in her face, or does Elizabeth intimidate her?

Great :)

Her old picture hasn't been working for me for a while anyway.

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Abigail has feelings for Jaspin? Well, if the signs of attraction are there, then Elizabeth is going to despise Abigail. It doesn't help that Abigail is younger, prettier, blonder than Elizabeth, that's not going to help at all. I wonder if Elizabeth will even be conscious about it - like, is she going to understand that she's jealous because she still loves Jaspin somewhere deep down?
She'll probably be angry with herself that she still loves him, so I think she'll kind of know.

I think that route will cause more pain for everyone involved. Which is totally what I'm going for, so.

Random thing, I changed Elizabeth's appearance picture. This one feels a little better for her, a little more nuanced.
Goes without saying, of course, that Elizabeth doesn't have the tattoos or the nose ring like in that picture. It's more for the face and hair. And I'll probably post more pictures of her in my Muse thread.

Muses

Krisztian Nasseau/Canossa/Hedervary

Muses

Violeta Nasseau/Canossa/Anghelescu

Muses

Olan (Nae Oh-seung)

Muses

Regan Morrissey