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Imperfectionist said
Remember remember the Fifth of November, the gunpower, treason and plot. I see no reason why gunpowder treason should ever be forgot...We have to do this, now. We just have to.


The symbolism is just too delicious.
Imperfectionist said
x.x You'd have to be so lucky, or so smart, that it's basically possible. For one thing, they're never going to be alone, especially not if they're guarding someone or something... Obviously, the best overall tactics for the resistance are going to involve hit-and-run attacks, the avoidance of Knights and Elite Guards altogether, lots of explosives, key assassinations, incitement of mass uprising and lots of fantabulous SCIENCE!, but we can leave those discussions to the IC.EDIT: What we need, in all honesty, is to capture some Anti-Materiel rifles, or find some out in the Wasteland. Those are just about the only thing (apart from EMP weapons and high explosives) that would be effective against armor that powerful.


Let's take a page out of old Guy Fawke's book and blow up Buckingham Palace! :D

Nah I kid. We'll discuss tactics in the IP as our characters meet up to make a plan.
Got my post up. Just to let you know, if Kreig and Bane come back to you, then Kain is with them as they escorted him to you via their own transportation abilities from both Kain's and Krieg/Bane's respective powers.
Kain sat on the edge of the skyscraper watching his painted picture. The protest that was attacked earlier was still being sorted. The humans tried frantically to pick up the pieces that Kain smashed and left. They like to think that their organized and ready for anything but the real truth is that they’re just like rats. They’re disorganized, dirty and many. All Kain is doing is waking them up to the truth. However, as much as he would love to attack every single piece of oppression on conduits, his true goal was to attract attention of a certain someone. That certain someone will lead him on the path to Syndicate and Petrov. Once he finds Petrov, he will make him suffer more than he could possibly imagine. His hands glow with the green-yellow colour of chlorine gas. The more he thinks about Petrov, the more the hands glow in a representation of rage and revenge.

He then looks closer in the far distance at the site of the protest. He thought he saw something quite odd for a moment there. He could swear he saw some sort of flash, almost like a flash of lightning. He can’t see what happened, as a building was covering the sight of the flash. All he can tell was a flash of light happened and he’s not sure but he thought he saw some sort of white mist. He then stands up and starts to tense up and ready. He’s not sure if it was Scorn’s doing or if it is some sort of sign. He needs to be ready just in case.

Unfortunately, his train of thought is interrupted as he heard some sort of loud swish happen behind him. He quickly turns around and aims his hand quickly at whatever did that. A piece of hydrochloric acid floated around his hand, waiting for Kain to pull the trigger. Oddly though, it was nothing. It was the same as before. Some open air vents and a large water tank. This made Kain very hot on his feet. He knows something is there. He has the eerie feeling of being watched, almost like there is something lurking in the shadow. Then it hit Kain. Shadows! That’s what Scorn can manipulate. He remembers it vaguely from Curdun Cay. It became quite a problem for the officials there. If his memory serves him, they had to put her in a room filled with lights and no darkness at all, except her own shadow.

“Scorn?” calls Kain out towards the shadow. There was no response for the first ten-twenty seconds but then a dark, rough voice replied back towards Kain. “She at the moment.”
An angry look came to Kain’s face. He is not interested in some lackey. He wants Scorn. He moves a little more forwards towards the shadow while still keeping his distance.
“I did not destroy an anti-conduit protest to speak some mindless lackey. I did it to speak to Scorn. Now where is she!” his voice became more rougher and angrier but the shadowy figure dashed from the shadow like an agile panther towards Kain and came up at him from behind. He grasped Kain's throat and was holding it quite strongly. His hand was glowing black with some sort of shadow attack. It seemed to be he was threatening him. It might have been something he said.
“Hold your fucking tongue! We are Scorn’s right hand men and we will not hesitate to destroy you! Do we make ourselves clear!?” His friend also popped out of the shadow to reveal that there are two of them. They seemed to be wearing the same uniform as the Reapers. At least he knew that they know Scorn. Kain then realizes right there that he is being threatened. He does not like threats.

He fired a piece of acid from the tip of finger to his face to blind him temporarily. He lets go in pain to momentarily be blinded. Kain then quickly grabbed him and threw him at his friend. The other lackey dashed out of the way as his friend was thrown beside him. Kain then makes his arms light up in a mass flame of yellow-green chlorine gas. It was to show the extent of his powers. It was like a bald eagle show the extent of his wingspan.
“If you dare fucking touch me again, I will melt you down piece by piece and send you both to Scorn in a milkshake cup so that she can drink herself some smoothies made out of you two!” He slowly walks forwards towards them and then stops. “However, I will play nicely if you show me to Scorn. Are we clear!?” The reaper henchmen don’t seemed to be feared but they do seem pissed. “We are here to take you to Scorn. As much as we would ripping that face off, we are under orders from her.” Kain just smiled and chuckled a little bit. “Typical”. One of the henchmen looked into the other and shook his head. They really wanted to kill Kain but they know they can’t.

He looked back towards the scene of the protest. He knew this plan would work. If Scorn truly wanted new members, then she would not resist someone who is not scared to murder people and cause a major commotion. If he does kill Petrov, he might join the Reapers. He’d rather help Scorn with domination has an ally and not as some sort of henchman. No one controls Kain. Not any more. He turns back towards the Reaper henchmen. “I never caught your and names and I don’t care. Lead me to Scorn and I’ll follow.” Kain would have expected some sort of threat like: ‘try killing her and it’ll be your last’ or some crap like that but these Reaper soldiers are not that stupid as it seems. If Kain really wanted to kill Scorn, he wouldn’t have murdered a bunch of civilians to do so. If anyone were to have a need to kill Scorn, it’d be some conduit with a pathetic sense of morality. Kain just hopes he doesn’t bump into one. Could be messy.
Imperfectionist said
Alright, then I agree. There are points of articulation, like the armpit, that could be targeted with a knife. It wouldn't be easy, as you keep claiming, but it is indeed possible. If you stab them in the armpit, it could even make them drop their weapon... But it still wouldn't kill them outright. I mean, not unless you had a magic knife that could bend around to target the middle of a torso while stabbing up into the armpit. You'd still need to unseal and unlock the helmet, take it off, and THEN kill them before they managed to raise an alarm... Which, in 99 combat situations out of 100, means you're dead, because of a handy thing called in-suit radio.But, anyway, with the right tactics and enough luck, sure. I'm not saying they're absolutely unbeatable... But they're pretty fucking unbeatable.You'd need to be part of a much larger operation, with enough cannon fodder to distract the guards while you sneak up on them, and by that point, is it really worth it? My point is that even though in a hypothetical situation a guard in power armour could be killed by a very lucky resistance fighter with a knife, it would require the sacrifice of so many other resources that it's unwise at best and suicidal at worst. We need to be smarter than that, if were going to beat these motherfuckers.EDIT: Basically, we shouldn't see engaging the forces of the Monarchy armed with knives as a viable long-term option.


LOL. I'm not saying that killing them with a knife is the plan (it'd be funny though XD, picture a madman running towards the gates of Buckingham palace with only a hatchet only to be shot down by the power Armour guards as soon as he was in sight and then the Resistance leader in the distance going "What's plan B?" XD XD) All I'm saying is that it's possible to kill one with a knife and yes, you'd have to be lucky but it is possible.
Curiosity Argetlam350, I have a question.

Can I control Kreig and Bane like normal NPCs or are they like Scorn and Keira and that I can't control any major movements or speech?
Argetlam350 said
Yes I know what an antihero is. I merely mean if I had to put him in just the three main categories, that is where he fits.


Cool cool. Sorry, didn't know if you knew. :)
Argetlam350 said 1 Anti Hero (Which I guess counts as a hero)


An anti hero is someone who does bad things for good reasons. Example, you brutally assault or murder the criminal instead of turning him into the police. Like Batman or Wolverine basically.

So he would count as a hero but with tactics of an InFamous.
Imperfectionist said
There aren't any "openings" at all, the suit and helmet together are against the outside world (which is why the armor grants a resistance to radiation). The helmet locks into the armor, and the neck is protected. In fact, this Royal armour is actually something of an odd duck compared to the major armors over in America (meaning the T51-b and Enclave Advanced armors), as those lock in so seamlessly there's nothing but an impenetrable crease. And, stabbed in the neck =/= severed jugular or instant death, especially with the protection that I've just explained.Look, all I'm trying to say here is, if Adrian attempts to use a knife to kill a fully armored Knight, he's not going to succeed. He's going to need better tactics than that.


I had a closer look at the armor and you may be right. The neck is probably protected but not EVERY single piece of the body is covered by the suit. There are a couple weak points that a knife can easily penetrate. The armpits and the small opening by the groin.

Yes they do have a large resistance to radiation but that doesn't mean they are fully protected from it. Every single piece of armor has a weakness.

The armpits would be probably be done from behind in a sneak attack and the groin would probably be a lucky shot.

My point is, a knife can kill a power armor guard. You don't need a massive weapon to do so.
Imperfectionist said
I promise you, Wiki, unless you've got a Protonic Axe or a Ripper or something, you aren't going to be able to slit a power armored soldier's throat. It just ain't happening (as long as they're wearing the helmet).If an obvious target like the throat wasn't protected at least enough to repel knives, the armor wouldn't have made it past testing. In a nutshell, it's designed to protect the wearer in combat situation, including close combat, meaning knives =/= instant death. Not even close. In fact, looking at the image Sep used for the Royal Knight's , the shoulders and back of the armor are designed such that the only way to target the soldier's neck with a melee weapon is to come at them head-on AND at an awkward angle (i.e. you die)...There's a reason why it's so impressive, and so feared on the battlefield, you know. The best method to kill them, in my opinion, is to trick them into removing their helmets first, as otherwise there's pretty much no hope (except C4 or other very powerful explosives). Read the story of (the second leader of the Brotherhood of Steel) for a good example.


There weren't any power guards at the impreganation attempt of his sister. Plus its true you can't slit the throat of them but you can stab the neck.

The helmet and the body armor are not connected (duh because how would they get in it otherwise :P), so the are small openings in the neck that a knife can easily get through.

I'm not saying that Power Guards are easy to kill but you can stab the neck with a knife. Of course due to their size and strength, it'd be a challenge but possible.
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