NacNak

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Just, tone it down a bit. Take a stern gander at the other player applications for an approximate idea on where the setting sits in terms of power scale.

@ASTA

I did, and some have anti-matter beams that can cut clean through entire ships DX *sniff* .... r-right... I'll see what I can do...

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YOU DON'T F*CKING SAY. Gosh, who would have though in a modern combat setting giant cumbersome beasts incapable of taking cover, slow as balls and not particularly maneuverable, would be sh*tty at modern combat. I say don't downsize them - let them learn the hard way that ever since like 1850 their sh*tty f*cking giant bodies are entirely worthless at fighting things with modern weapons.,

@rextremendum

....*lowers head in shame*

Now initially, I had legitimate reason to believe that Duck, Wilson and Keyguyperson had 0 sense of scale, but NacNak not only takes the cake, but he has successfully managed to leave the planet with it. I mean, Jesus Christ:

@ASTA

*tears begin to well up*

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NacNack, I have a point of order. You say your f*cking giant battleship warrior thing has a really big gun that shoots things real fast. However, I don't think you understand just how big the things are, and how fast they are going. I roughly crunched the numbers, so accuracy may not be the best, but I came out with: 1.0189e^15 tonnes of TNT. Over one PETATONNE OF TNT. In joules that is 4.2629e^24J, or 4 yottajoules. That is a f*cking silly amount of energy. That is 10 times the amount of energy present on earth in the form of Uranium 238. It is in the same ballpark as the TOTAL AMOUNT OF SUNLIGHT THAT HITS THE EARTH EACH YEAR. It is 100 times the amount of energy present in all the fossil fuels in the world today. So, to summarize: f*cking god f*cking damn you have made the most f*cking stupid gun ever. You would need 23682777.78 kilograms of antimatter [in anti-hydrogen] per shot [not to mention the equivalent amount of real-hydrogen to react with]. It would f*ck ANYTHING in the eye. That gun would destroy planets. Like, atomize them. Forever. What the f*ck, why would anyone build that ever. Also, it is f*cking impossible to get that much energy, and that much energy is pointless.

@rextremendum

yeaaaaaah.... I didn't think things through... also, i'm not good at mathematics like that.... *nervously scratches back on neck* I-I could get rid of how fast the rounds go, to just the normal speed things are shot out of cannons *cowers slightly with a nervous expression*

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Not to be overly critical of you either Nak Nak but no being can survive ( or keep fighting after) getting hit by an AT missile or stepping on a mine, no matter how big it is. Just the kinetic energy of getting hit by a missile in flight would be enough to take off limbs, break bone or lodge itself in your body. The explosion afterward ( given that your soft body would even initate the primer) would be most likely a shaped charge, shooting molten whatever ( copper in RL cases) into whatever it hits. Thats why when Tanks like the infamous M1A2 Abrams gets hit by an RPG there is a small hole where the molten medal had bored into the tank ( Killing everything inside mind you). Even with shields, no matter how good they are, you will still feel every bit of that kinetic energy and be subject to what I like to call " the bulletproof vest effect". If you have ever seen someone take a rifle caliber round while wearing plates then you will notice that he doesn't just stand there and take the round to keep on fighting like a bad ass. You are knocked on your ass or picked up and thrown ( depending on how big the round is and how fast it is going). In this RP we are talking weaponized railgun speeds ( which ASTA can prob quote) but id imagine is pretty damn fast, with rounds that are comparable 50BMGs, 338 Lapua and 20mm shells. The same weaponized railguns in space would launch shells the size of Volkswagens or houses at blinding ( really scary) speeds while being paired with armor piercing, High explosive or even shaped charge warheads. Unless your ship has 20ft or some crazy amount of armor or some crazy shielding ( I still dont agree with the validity of ducks) this shell can literally turn your ship inside out from end to end. This is adding the effect of plasma weapons ( Burn and melt EVERYTHING), Laser based weapons ( burn and melt EVERRRYTHING, unless your ship is made out of mirrors) and other energy based weapons. No point defense turret will be able to defend against these either, you are not shooting a rail gun slug while its moving, the same with a plasma bolt or laser strike. Even torpedoes are a stretch ( Given Septonian torpedoes are magnetically accelerated), Missiles, drones, fighters, and other ( RELATIVELY) slow moving strikes can be targeted and destroyed by CWIS style point defense though. We are truly using some devastating weapons in space and on the ground, I would hope that everyone realizes this ( If and or when) another war/conflict kicks off.

@Apollo26

.... I never really thought of that, it makes sense now, I have to be realistic X3 thanks for that =3 *edit right... one question, what about an artificial intelligence inside a robotic body, would that be able to survive/keep fighting if it got hit with an anti tank missile- wait, forget what I typed, it would most liekly be blown to smithereens now that I think about it, it's less than likely that the A.I. would survive let alone be able to keep fighting in it's destroyed body X3

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oooooh.... oh.... right, don't let me stop you =3

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Yes, that is much better. And now I shall leave this thread forever.

@Samebito

..... might I inquire as to why you are leaving this thread forever?

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I feel you should also downsize that signature while you're shrinking your scaly Potsdam Giants.

@Samebito

it took me a while, but I finally found a smaller version on my sig, better? =3 also, I have downsized the Zargan's to about 8-9ft and the Sparks to 7ft =3

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...... I am pondering whether of not I should downsize the Zargans X3 the thought of taking an anti-tank missile to the face doesn't sound too fun now that I think about XD

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oh, I don't know if it counts towards anything but in the game Destiny you could four soldiers with heavy weapons vs one big alien and even then the big alien is hard to kill, but then again it's just the game mechanics to add hours to the game play X3

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And then one soldier comes forth with a light anti-tank missile launcher and settles the fight then and there. It's worse if these giant reptiles unfortunately find themselves trekking through urban environments, which is where most armored vehicles are at their weakest on account of the prominent number of areas from which ambushes can be launched from, the ever-present threat of concealed mines and IEDs, and the blind spots a bulky tracked vehicles is naturally afflicted with. The giant reptile isn't a tank, but it's still ungodly huge and therefore is bait for every bog standard trooper with something heavier than a battle rifle. It's not going to have the same amount of armor a tank has either because of the shape of its wearer and the mechanical problems that come along with elevated degrees of weight. I'm not trying to slam your idea, but massive aliens like that being conquerers doesn't make much sense. Their size is a horrible (and easily exploitable) disadvantage and the ten-footers aren't going to fair much better either.

@ASTA

O_O I didn't think of an alien soldier using an anti-tank missile launcher to deal with a single Zargan >XD I mean, yeah Zargan soldiers have energy shields and strong armor, so, it's possible a lone Zargan soldier could survive an anti-tank missile launcher blast or accidentally tripping a mine and continue to fight after that, but I don't think Zargan would stand still and let the missile hit them, and theywouldn't be alone, the make sure to fight it coordinated groups =3 and yet again, they wouldn't put them selves in a position to be boxed in like walking in a small urban environment, that what the Sas-Zak do, because they're smaller =3 they also have the Sparks which can be uploaded into their armor which could help guild them through dangerous areas =3 and I get what your saying, the bigger they are the harder they fall, I knew that it was going to be a problem, but I thought their technology and diversity would that burden off their back =3 oh, and the Zargan's don't set out to be conquerors, if there is a chance for a peaceful coexistence they'll gladly take that over war =3