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Lucian said
See my first point. There is probably something wrong mentally in the mind of somebody willing to do the deed already.

Another possible reason is impulsion, a spur of the moment action. They are reasonable people, but given the current situation they are in, and the power impulsion has, they could easily do something to which under any normal circumstance would not, and later deeply regret such the action they have taken.
Lucian said
One might argue the following,1) They probably are already emotionally crippled.2) Fighting fire with fire isn't always the best tactic, especially with delicate subjects like the mind and psychological states.


Even then you must ask the question, why would a person RAPE another person?
What does person A get out of doing this action to Person B?
HollywoodMole said
I know, and honestly someone who rapes shouldn't have a baby in the first place. I would disagree with that, rapists are technically very serious criminals, and they are one of the few people I think shouldn't have these rights. A thief? Fine. But rapists are really sick people who should be in prison, so If I had the power I would never give them the right to abort. People who can emotionally cripple deserve to be emotionally crippled twice as worse.


Notice you said Can emotionally cripple.

If you take into the idea that if you can emotionally cripple a person you deserve to be emotionally crippled twice over?

Wouldn't that mean almost everyone deserves to be emotionally crippled twice as worst, despite not doing it, but because they CAN?
HollywoodMole said
Well, it depends on the situation. If it's because you weren't using protection or something, then just birth it and if you don't want to raise it put it into adoption or something, and if you really can't be arsed abort it. But, if you've been raped or something, I think someone should just abort it.


That's interesting you mentioned rape. Rape is a two way street, men can be raped. So hollywood what if the women raped the man, and she will now have a baby. Should she still abort it?
Halo said
Although such a volatile topic may be a controversial choice for Nat to pick, I also massively respect that he's making a legitimate effort. Let's not actively discourage people taking on board others' advice and trying to contribute, eh?As for the topic at hand, I'm pro-choice to a limited extent. I quite like the system we have here in the UK - it has to be before 24 weeks, and two different doctors have to agree that it would be damaging either physically or mentally to the mother. It can't just be an "emergency contraceptive", but if there is legitimate reason then an abortion can be carried out. The thing I always struggle with in this debate is whether the mother should be able to have an abortion if she doesn't want the child because they feel they cannot provide a life of adequate quality - say, they're severely below the poverty line, or they're an addict or some shit like that, who knows. The obvious answer is that they give the child up for adoption, but it seems somewhat cruel to force a mother through pregnancy and childbirth, and then to depart with a child they're biologically hardwired to be emotionally attached to, all because they're trying to do a good thing for that child. This is the point in the argument where I just throw up my hands and give up, because I never feel like there's a right or wrong answer and it becomes an exercise in semantics (for me, at least.)


That's the thing about these kinds of topics, it's all grey. There is no one right or wrong answer.
Derpestein said
This.People should make their own decisions on what THEY want to happen to their own bodies.


I going to play the devil's advocate and ask you. What about taking responsibility for ones actions? Why throw away the life of someone not yet born, because YOU don't feel like taking care of them, You don't feel like seeing the consequence for your actions, and would rather take the easy way out, and destroy the baby?
HollywoodMole said
Well, it really doesn't make sense to me because I think that the only person who should decide whether to have their bodies in surgeries and such is them themselves and no one else. So, I really can't agree with anything that doesn't really give me enough reason like saying "It's cruel".(Though I suppose I'm not really giving enough reason, but my brains tired right now.)


Well experience(and law class) has taught me most people that lean towards pro-life are Christan raised, and have a strong feeling towards every life even those unborn should be given a chance to be born and live, rather then let someone else pick for them, when they are unable to.

Another reason is that most people having abortions are teenagers who don't care for the baby, and or don't want to have one, but still want to have sex.
HollywoodMole said
I'm also pro-choice, because anyone other than the person who wants to have the abortion intervening in their decision is really stupid.


Why is that, may I ask?
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