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World in Revolution: 1861

Pepperm1nts said
> Implying Otto can't kick your ass wit his feet

Britain
Army Level: (0/5) Good
Equipment: 73.00%

Prussia:
Army Level: (2/5) Good
Equipment: 66.00%

It's a sold fight. We will see how it turns out this war update.

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The Nexerus said
Are you really asking that question? Otto Von Bismarck's answer is, "Yes", obviously.

Welp...Otto Von Bismarck will be deposed or dead by the end of this then.

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So Boerd said
False. What I want is a unified Germany. Whether that requires a war or not is up to you.

No. You want a Unified Germany under you. Is a Unified Germany worth the thousands of lives that are going to be lost in this war? The citizens of the German Confederation who lived peacefully will prolly say that it is not.

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The Nexerus said
As in removing the Dutch-speaking rulers of an 85% Dutch speaking country, in order to replace them with Francophone ones? I'm surprised how much of a Francboo Albert Edward has become. Here I was with the misconception that France and Britain were traditional rivals.

*Shrug* We have decided to put aside past differences. It's time to put the sibling rivalry aside and face the world together. There are still tensions, but Britain and France are stronger together than apart.

"I hope for a future where every French citizen will know English and every Englishman know French.
When a Doctor in England may spread their wisdom to France and a French inventor can expand his creative mind in Britain.
Whilst London dines on French wine, Paris will enjoy Scottish whiskey.
Like siblings we have fought but, just like siblings, we forgive and band together."

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The Nexerus said
I fully agree that it is a blatant land grab, to further the goal unifying the country.

Welp, in that case after the Allies win I'm voting for the Netherlands to belong to the Reestablished Belgium state to Unify the Country. :)

Edit: @Dedonus, if the netherlands had attempted to peacefully I would have been all for it. But Prussia was manipulating the ToC to state that he could do whatever he wanted and let the Netherlands have the go ahead. Prussia wants a war. They've been itching for it since before the ToC.

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The Nexerus said
And the Dutch War of Reunification was a different war than the War of the Eighth Coalition.How so? The amount of years that have passed between the two wars is irrelevant when deciding whether or not they are the same war.

The "Dutch War of Reunification" is the instigation of the Great War.

It is true that years are not that important, but the fact is that during those years Belgium was established as a Sovereign, Independent state. Totally different than if they were still a rebel faction not acknoweldged.

You are grasping at straws to somehow justify the Netherland's blatant land grab.

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The Nexerus said
How is that relevant?

You state 'following this train of thought.' 30 years is a huge difference between one. That was a different war than this one.

Edit: What pepper said.

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The Nexerus said
Let's continue down that train of thought, then. If Belgium being reunited with the Netherlands was an event that contributed to the war, then wouldn't the separation of Belgium in the first place also be a contributing factor, since it was the reason that the reunification occurred?The War of the Eighth Coalition began as a result of resistance to the idea of self-determination and the national will on the part of the Allied powers.@Pasta: Not a single Prussian entered Belgium until after the Dutch had advanced into Flanders.

The Separation of Belgium occurred 30 years prior.

And the Prussian Empire should have declared war on the Netherlands for bring war on the continent.

And the 8th Coaltion began as a way to manipulate the ToC so that Prussia could gain power. There is nothing else around it. From what I understand, Prussia was contacting y'all during/immediately after the ToC.

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So Boerd said
Point of some dispute.

It is; but it was very clear in negotiations that any aggression on the Continent was to be dealt with by the Signatories declaring war on the aggressor.

Even with the whole sphere of influence (which is debatable on whether you had it over that area), you just simply aggressively invaded Belgium.
"--Section 2: A signatory has a responsibility to ensure that the humanitarian needs of those in their sphere of influence are met, and can request help from other signatories in order to meet this responsibility."

I would consider that breaking Section 2. Rather than attempting to do this peacably y'all just invaded without warning to the ToC signatories or Belgium.

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The Nexerus said
The ToC is null and void. I thought all parties had already acknowledged this?

Nope. Only Prussia and Britain withdrew.