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Quick question, the MIB BOSA is a branch of, is it the movie version or a more general kind?
Quick question, the MIB BOSA is a branch of, is it the movie version or a more general kind?
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Today I reached the conclusion that, if presented with an exact duplicate of herself, one of my characters would DEFINITELY hit that.
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Today I reached the conclusion that, if presented with an exact duplicate of herself, one of my characters would DEFINITELY hit that.
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@KatherinWinter
I've got a fairly solid grasp of how these organizations are put together between having learned directly from family members, as well as my own independent research (because it is a subject that I find fascinating) and reading books/playing video games that involve things like military operations and secret agents.
By the way, if you're ever looking for a good military fiction read, check out Larry Correia's Dead Six series. The first book follows two protagonists; a mercenary working for an American military black ops unit (the titular Dead Six), and a career criminal working on a major heist in the same fictional country. It gives a surprisingly good look at how both organized criminal groups and covert military units operate.
Larry's main series (that is, the first one he published and the one that is currently the longest) Monster Hunter International is another really good read, the first book in that series is actually available for free as an e-book on basically all platforms through the publisher's website.
This has been an opportunistic shilling for my favorite author. Seriously, go read these books. They are amazing.
I've got a fairly solid grasp of how these organizations are put together between having learned directly from family members, as well as my own independent research (because it is a subject that I find fascinating) and reading books/playing video games that involve things like military operations and secret agents.
By the way, if you're ever looking for a good military fiction read, check out Larry Correia's Dead Six series. The first book follows two protagonists; a mercenary working for an American military black ops unit (the titular Dead Six), and a career criminal working on a major heist in the same fictional country. It gives a surprisingly good look at how both organized criminal groups and covert military units operate.
Larry's main series (that is, the first one he published and the one that is currently the longest) Monster Hunter International is another really good read, the first book in that series is actually available for free as an e-book on basically all platforms through the publisher's website.
This has been an opportunistic shilling for my favorite author. Seriously, go read these books. They are amazing.
@KatherinWinter
You should probably be paying closer attention then, because according to Amaya herself in-roleplay she was only recruited the day prior to the mission.
An individual with as much experience as the director should be fully aware that basing important tactical decisions on untested assumptions is the fastest way to screw over an operation. He may have had no reason to believe Griffin wouldn't be a natural leader, but he also had no reason to assume that he would be one; any leader worth his salt would have hedged his bets and made sure there was someone or something in place in the event he made a mistake in assuming Griffin would be able to take charge. Giving individual agents their own specific directives, establishing a second in command, or having a direct line of communication so he himself would be able to issue orders to the men in the field (every military and police force on the planet has at least one of these things. Mission control, central dispatch, and so on.)
The FBI for example sends agents out from field offices in major cities, agents in the field receiver orders from their local office, which serves as their mission control.
I REALLY hate to be the guy who constantly back-talks the GM, but these are VERY important details that have been overlooked, and in-game the absolute disaster the mission became could have been averted completely if command had been making regular check ins and requesting status reports; something that every government agency does because of how crucially important it is to maintain a functional communication web when fielding a major operation.
How do I know these things? I come from a family of police officers and soldiers. I've never served myself (too many health problems, mental and physical), but you pick up a lot of details from talking to people who have experience in these matters.
Mistakes were made both by field agents AND by HQ; and the mistakes of the agents could have been prevented by, before starting the roleplay, establishing OOC what BOSA's field procedures are.
I read the entire roleplay prior to joining it myself, and it is readily apparent that the time was not taken to put together any sort of field manual that would give the players a basis with which they could establish their character's understanding of procedure, without any information on how the agency operates how do you expect characters to act as if they had been trained properly?
You should probably be paying closer attention then, because according to Amaya herself in-roleplay she was only recruited the day prior to the mission.
An individual with as much experience as the director should be fully aware that basing important tactical decisions on untested assumptions is the fastest way to screw over an operation. He may have had no reason to believe Griffin wouldn't be a natural leader, but he also had no reason to assume that he would be one; any leader worth his salt would have hedged his bets and made sure there was someone or something in place in the event he made a mistake in assuming Griffin would be able to take charge. Giving individual agents their own specific directives, establishing a second in command, or having a direct line of communication so he himself would be able to issue orders to the men in the field (every military and police force on the planet has at least one of these things. Mission control, central dispatch, and so on.)
The FBI for example sends agents out from field offices in major cities, agents in the field receiver orders from their local office, which serves as their mission control.
I REALLY hate to be the guy who constantly back-talks the GM, but these are VERY important details that have been overlooked, and in-game the absolute disaster the mission became could have been averted completely if command had been making regular check ins and requesting status reports; something that every government agency does because of how crucially important it is to maintain a functional communication web when fielding a major operation.
How do I know these things? I come from a family of police officers and soldiers. I've never served myself (too many health problems, mental and physical), but you pick up a lot of details from talking to people who have experience in these matters.
Mistakes were made both by field agents AND by HQ; and the mistakes of the agents could have been prevented by, before starting the roleplay, establishing OOC what BOSA's field procedures are.
I read the entire roleplay prior to joining it myself, and it is readily apparent that the time was not taken to put together any sort of field manual that would give the players a basis with which they could establish their character's understanding of procedure, without any information on how the agency operates how do you expect characters to act as if they had been trained properly?
Christ I'm long winded sometimes...
@KatherinWinter@Blueflame@Searat@LightningMaiden
"I don't remember being invited to any team building exercises." Argus responded bluntly, half-glaring at the Director, "Anyways, when you're handing out those black marks on our permanent records keep in mind that I'm the only reason that mission wasn't a total failure. I'd rather not have to go back to wearing a tracking bracelet all the time because my first real outing had gone to shit before I even got there."
"If I may, Director." Rost interjected, raising one hand, "Perhaps in your haste to improve upon our ability to respond to larger threats, you neglected to take a few details into account." he offered politely, "For instance, Amaya has been with us for less than two days, and according to her recruitment file was previously living in near-total isolation. Someone with her background would have a natural aversion to those in positions of authority, regardless of ancestral feuds. She has no knowledge of field tactics, and yet is expected to follow procedures? That hardly seems fair." the scribe continued, gesturing towards the water elemental, "Griffin, despite his age, has no experience in leadership. He is no natural leader, but given time he could easily learn the skills; yet he was thrust into a position of command with no warning or time to prepare, and given charge of individuals whose skills he did not know how to utilize; purely on the hope he would turn out to be a natural leader." he nodded towards the vampire, "Richard, I believe, does indeed have military training, and based on the field reports followed orders admirably once a trained commanding officer arrived on scene. Prior to that he was left to his own devices and, as is the natural instinct of any man, relied upon his prior experience as a medic."
Rost stopped to catch his breath before returning his attention to the Director, "Mistakes were made, yes, but I feel that going so far as to strike marks against these agents for them is unfair; as you yourself made the mistake of assuming Griffin would be a natural leader, and did not establishing a formal chain of command. Agents were not given assignments based on their individual skillsets or experience, they were simply set loose with a blanket order and expected to complete their mission flawlessly. Simply put, no form of coordination was put in place in the event your natural leader failed to appear."
Argus
"I don't remember being invited to any team building exercises." Argus responded bluntly, half-glaring at the Director, "Anyways, when you're handing out those black marks on our permanent records keep in mind that I'm the only reason that mission wasn't a total failure. I'd rather not have to go back to wearing a tracking bracelet all the time because my first real outing had gone to shit before I even got there."
Rost
"If I may, Director." Rost interjected, raising one hand, "Perhaps in your haste to improve upon our ability to respond to larger threats, you neglected to take a few details into account." he offered politely, "For instance, Amaya has been with us for less than two days, and according to her recruitment file was previously living in near-total isolation. Someone with her background would have a natural aversion to those in positions of authority, regardless of ancestral feuds. She has no knowledge of field tactics, and yet is expected to follow procedures? That hardly seems fair." the scribe continued, gesturing towards the water elemental, "Griffin, despite his age, has no experience in leadership. He is no natural leader, but given time he could easily learn the skills; yet he was thrust into a position of command with no warning or time to prepare, and given charge of individuals whose skills he did not know how to utilize; purely on the hope he would turn out to be a natural leader." he nodded towards the vampire, "Richard, I believe, does indeed have military training, and based on the field reports followed orders admirably once a trained commanding officer arrived on scene. Prior to that he was left to his own devices and, as is the natural instinct of any man, relied upon his prior experience as a medic."
Rost stopped to catch his breath before returning his attention to the Director, "Mistakes were made, yes, but I feel that going so far as to strike marks against these agents for them is unfair; as you yourself made the mistake of assuming Griffin would be a natural leader, and did not establishing a formal chain of command. Agents were not given assignments based on their individual skillsets or experience, they were simply set loose with a blanket order and expected to complete their mission flawlessly. Simply put, no form of coordination was put in place in the event your natural leader failed to appear."
@katherinwinter@Searat
Up until you get into the sewers, that is.
I'm leaving it up to individual judgement if people think their character would know Rost.
Except possibly Astra, considering what she is I would put the odds that Rost was involved with getting her operational at somewhere around 95%.
Up until you get into the sewers, that is.
I'm leaving it up to individual judgement if people think their character would know Rost.
Except possibly Astra, considering what she is I would put the odds that Rost was involved with getting her operational at somewhere around 95%.
@KatherinWinter@LightningMaiden@Searat@blueflame
The scholarly agent followdled wordlessly behind The Director, carrying his grimoir under one arm; he would worry about returning it to the library vault after the meeting. He took a seat at the table across from Argus, placing the bueavy book in front of him and crossing his arms on top of it.
"If you'll excuse the interruption, Director, isn't this your fault? You sent an untested team of individuals with no prior history of cooperation into the field under the leadership of someone who has never been placed in a position of command." Argus stated bluntly, "That includes two untrained rookies, one of which was only hired yesterday. Until this operation, we have always operated under a structure of a single field agent per assignment. No adjustment period, no team building exercises, not even trust falls." he leaned back on his seat, staring at the director dead-on, "The minute someone who is actually trained in leadership and tactics showed up, things went off without a hitch. These agents are perfectly capable of working together effectively, you just need to give them someone to rally behind and show them the way; or at the very least send us to a team building seminar." the Djinn agent was well aware he was likely to be in deep shit for his comments, but he had dealt with enough bureaucratic finger pointing in his life to know warnings and reprimands wouldn't get them anywhere. "Before you go pointing fingers about who's being unprofessional, you should probably take a look at how you organized the deployment."
Rost
The scholarly agent followdled wordlessly behind The Director, carrying his grimoir under one arm; he would worry about returning it to the library vault after the meeting. He took a seat at the table across from Argus, placing the bueavy book in front of him and crossing his arms on top of it.
Argus
"If you'll excuse the interruption, Director, isn't this your fault? You sent an untested team of individuals with no prior history of cooperation into the field under the leadership of someone who has never been placed in a position of command." Argus stated bluntly, "That includes two untrained rookies, one of which was only hired yesterday. Until this operation, we have always operated under a structure of a single field agent per assignment. No adjustment period, no team building exercises, not even trust falls." he leaned back on his seat, staring at the director dead-on, "The minute someone who is actually trained in leadership and tactics showed up, things went off without a hitch. These agents are perfectly capable of working together effectively, you just need to give them someone to rally behind and show them the way; or at the very least send us to a team building seminar." the Djinn agent was well aware he was likely to be in deep shit for his comments, but he had dealt with enough bureaucratic finger pointing in his life to know warnings and reprimands wouldn't get them anywhere. "Before you go pointing fingers about who's being unprofessional, you should probably take a look at how you organized the deployment."
Welp, time for Argus to dig himself a pit from which there's no escape.
@KatherinWinter He's a scholar, not a hermit. He works in the library, sometimes helps do maintenance on magically augmented equipment, and if the base has a canteen/cafeteria he probably eats lunch there.
He's generally a fairly sociable guy; not your stereotypical reclusive genius type. Plus he likes to talk to the magically inclined agents, sharing information and learning about assorted supernatural beings.
He's generally a fairly sociable guy; not your stereotypical reclusive genius type. Plus he likes to talk to the magically inclined agents, sharing information and learning about assorted supernatural beings.
@KatherinWinter@Searat
Something that just now crossed my mind, since Rost has been with the agency as a researcher/scientist pretty much from the beginning, odds are any agent who has been around more than a few days is likely to have met him.
Something that just now crossed my mind, since Rost has been with the agency as a researcher/scientist pretty much from the beginning, odds are any agent who has been around more than a few days is likely to have met him.
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