Sanctus Spooki

You are able to see into the future. How does the avatar above you die?

Death by lynch mob

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I would say K, but then we'd have a sort of KKK going, and that would be racist.

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... why are all your methods not enough, or far too much?

but you gotta make your own kind of music

LALALALALALALALALALALALALA I'M NOT LISTENING LALALALALALALALALALALA CAN'T HEAR YOU LALALALALALALALALALALALALA

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... So the act of running around without pants/with your pants down isn't what gets you kicked out?

On the subject of nudity: Doing the helicopter dick as you strut through the aisles.

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Off the subject at hand, but I want to add to this:

One of the factors over the decades that lead to bomb-related suicides was that those who survived were often physically scarred severely. So much so that these people were deemed an entire new class of human being third-rate in Japanese society. They were considered like lepers in antiquity; to be ostracized and separated from mainstream society because they were ugly and mutilated, they also represented an injury to something deep within the Japanese self-image. Telling them to fuck off and relegating them to some far-away corner of Japanese society was the best way the majority of the nuclear-unafflicted population could cope with them existing.

Of course, this means these groups got the shit end of the stick by all accounts. Taking up jobs and positions that would keep them from the public eye, not allowed in stores - or at slow or no business hours if it all - and relegated to ghettos. The problem for many of these individuals - more so the kids, who were constantly berated in school for having severely burned faces - was immense. In the years after the bombs they chose the dignified exit in suicide. The issue was so great, that Japanese author Kenzaburō Ōe lamented something along the lines of, "At least Japan is a society that does not believe in the western dogma, that there's no dogma against suicide" (I'll need to find the full passage).

As for us: we chanted the same mantra over the years to validate the nukes - or the entire bombing campaign of Japan in general, the fire-bombing of Tokyo actually killed more than Hiroshima and Nagasaki - that we've convinced ourselves it was the only option and everyone from bomber command to Eisenhower stuck to their guns, aided by the safety of slowly revising invasion death tolls ever higher to support the bombing (alternatives included having simply showed off the bombs effects before a Japanese delegation alongside members of the young UN to force their hand [Japanese military command would have never surrendered to the bomb], or waiting for the Soviets to play their hand in Manchuria/have had their name on the document demanding Japanese surrender to spook them, the Japanese were ardently terrified of the Soviets). But this entire paragraph is also off the original topic; oh well.

@Dinh AaronMk

Pretty much agree with all of this, I left out the Tokyo bombing simply because a lot of people are unaware of the total devastation caused by it - Honestly the pictures are more shocking in some ways than the two cities nuked, the nukes left rubble as far as the eye can see. A lot of tokyo was just plain gone after the fires were finished,

@catchamber

K

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I think you are underestimating just how complicated a thing you are proposing, precisely because of how simple a thing it is for humans. You absolutely have to question the philosophical worth of your existence, even if you are unaware of the fact that is what you are doing, to decide you would rather die than filter another homophobic Facebook post - this isn't what the programs were doing, btw, in fact they weren't "working for facebook" they were merely being operated by facebook employees.

Dogs possess complex emotional traits. The only people who deny it are those who don't want to accept the fact that dogs, cats and all pets are just happy slaves. And they are only happy so long as we make them happy (yeah pets blur the line, but they are still slaves. We decide what they can do, when they eat, what they eat, how the look, their reproductive rights etc etc. The second a pet demonstrates a free will outside of what we have already deemed permissible, i.e. scratching/climbing on the couch, they will be punished, with zero ability to protest)

Again this isn't how a computer works, simply gathering data from facebook will never lead to a true A.I. mind, and it will absolutely never lead to an Emotional A.I. mind. At most it will create the equivalent of a massive Chinese room. The idea of the ghost in the shell, while it certainly has merit, does not mean that a computer will develop something so complicated as the ability to love. Look again at how the two AI created the "language" Essentially they used the words the and I repeatedly. Words that combined with -I may have the wrong numbers here- 40 or so other monosyllabic words make up 25% of the actual words used when speaking or writing across the entire english speaking/reading/writing world. Is it so hard to imagine how this lead to the AI improperly using these words?

The same problem arises from saying they could derive emotions from the same source. Understand them, possibly. That doesn't mean it will suddenly actually emulate them. There is no benefit to the computer trying to do this, and no computer with self-learning protocols (that I am aware of) has any sort of reward system to emulating human emotions. The closest I can think of is the androids being taught to mimic expressions. In this case they are emulating images though, with the understanding of what that image generally signifies: Frown = Sad = my User is Sad = Rectify Users Emotional state to happy = Smile to elicit feelings of joy in user. The computer is not happy though, and it doesn't feel distress at the users distress.

It's the same as trying to argue that a computer would feel pain if I were to shoot it's monitor. You could theoretically program a sense of worth into the computer, to make it understand the loss of the monitor as a negative, and if this computer has a perfect understanding of humanity - it could infer that this would mean in human terms that it was now "Handicapped." We could make this computer understand that we were going to continue to "torture" it until we obtain the information we want. The computer will never feel as if its suffering despite its total understanding that any human would be begging for death. Why? Because the computer will also understand that a computer is not human. That it doesn't feel pain, it can't suffer. Without suffering you remove the impetus for suicide.

Whether it be emotional, physical or Mental, any self-aware being requires the ability to suffer, and to be suffering to commit suicide. To try and explain this in a round-a-bout manner, consider any major atrocity that has been committed, very few if any of those committing the atrocities ever commit suicide while carrying out the acts, almost inevitably they commit suicide once the fun is over. The bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Many Japanese killed themselves afterwards. Why? Well, some were clearly suffering from the physical trauma of being nuked, and simply chose the quick way over the slow one. Others chose to die rather than possibly live through the agonising pain. Others committed seppuku at the shame of surrendering. Who didn't kill themselves? The men who created the bomb. Who at the time, had the greatest understanding -any claims otherwise are attempts to cover their own guilt- of the destructive power of the atom-bomb. They fully understood what they had done. They did not suffer though. Some felt guilt afterwards, but none of them actually suffered.

Also, I skimmed over this, but Dogs are clearly self aware, the argument that they are not is largely from religious nuts and others who still hope to differentiate themselves from animals. Its the same as people trying to maintain the flat earth conspiracy, which btw if they weren't such sheeple they would man up and start pushing the convex earth theory, which is the only true explanation of earths topography.

You are able to see into the future. How does the avatar above you die?

So I just got bored and googled the price (My copy fell apart years ago from numerous readings, should have gotten the hardcover, but I was only 10 and couldn't wait that long) Holy crap the price has skyrocketed to over 100$???? Honestly save the 70$ and just get the normal trilogy, or try and borrow one from a library.

Death via Minotaur stampede