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^ reason why you hid like an imbecile.

Lol.

EDIT:

If you intend to do that next time, just don't roll.


fair enough.. lol i'm just trying to save some pride here.. leave me be..
@VKAllen
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On the short term, I can stil zap you. It's over the long term that a lack of spellbook would give me trouble.


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When did poor Sionnie do anything to deserve that sort of violence. Sniffs* She only stole your spell book from you. T_T She didn't try to stab you or anything. That was just uncalled for.. Sniffs*


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Well, it is well-deserved. A spell-book is almost like a wizard's private parts. Its like being sexually harassed.


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The last thing you would want to do is make a bad reputation out of yourself in a town you're not a resident of. Trust me, you do not want to face the Mayor as a Level 1 Rogue.


These where the basis starting with Natsu's joke. =_= any ways i am done with it.. i'll let you figure it out from here if you want.
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You've failed to prevent the theft of your spellbook, but you did see her run to hide like an imbecile. You could completely see her hiding.


I did not run and hide like an imbecile! >:< Sionnie purposefully made it clear for him to follow her... that was always bart of the plan.. she only wanted him to think she was serious about hiding..
Real life often comes in the way, I am fully aware of that. However, if the activity of the RP is the way it is now, I fear how it will be once it actually kicks off. People are somewhat patient now, for most part, but once we start waiting for each other's replies and once the GM will be tasked with constantly progressing the RP, I am unsure how long this RP will last.

While I am not trying to be passive aggressive or throw blame, I am stating an observation I've picked up throughout the time we've been waiting for the RP to start. I am more than certain that the GM has a very busy life, however due to this, his presence here has been rather lacking.

When the RP starts, the GM's presence will be demanded much more and given what's been going on so far, I am skeptical as to how long this will manage to survive.


That is exactly what i am worried about..
@VKAllenArgument can be fun if your not trying to win it! The is the difference between a fight and an argument. An argument is about presenting your point to the other person and getting them to accept that it is valid even if they do not agree with it themselves. In multiple paragraphs i have addmited your sides validity but you have to much pride to admit mine. This is a situation that makes and argument frustrating instead of fun! That is why i asked if you took an argument class. it teaches more than how to argue, it teaches how to make one civil and enjoyable so that by the end Both parties have made a point and had it accepted. To do that, there needs to be humility on both sides. Do you understand now why your making this out to be more than it is? Or how to actually end this on a good note? I suppose i should have defined these terms to begin with but i honestly thought this would have ended by now and we would have come to accept each other's side. This could have been friendly and helped us understand each other in a good way but as it is not i have found i do not like what i see, and have lost a little respect for you sir. Let this be the end.. You will not see the point and one more thing... I am sorry i offended you and i apologize as it was not my attention. I do mean that sincerely.
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Did you even take an argument class?
Ethos: An argument based on Ethical values. (such as the rules or laws.)
Logos: An argument based on Logical values.
Pathos: An argument based on emotional values.


No.

By this logic; do you need a class in DnD to play DnD?

No.

We can throw as much hypothetical scenarios as you want, but logic dictates that they are invalid. You would have to re-work fundamental laws in society and social norms. If you have a hypothetical scenario that does not change this, then the hypothetical scenario is false and invalid.
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Again it was never in question whether my theory was invaled as we both understand it was.. and on that point i understood and in multiple paragraphs said that you where right he would not cast the spell! The point is that if he did (which He would not!) I would have gotten away with it and he would pay the price... Not based on whether he would but on the unrealistic, unethical possibility that he did! Even though in actual game he would not. There for you argument falters because you continue to misunderstand the point. this is not something that would happen in game but a scenario based on whether it did. Now so far it seems i would get away with theft and he would be held accountible for the tavern, the victim, and assualting an unarmed tiefling. in My scenario. The funny thing about a joke or threat is that sometimes and in a jokes case most the time they are illogical. and since my argument was based of that threatening joke he made... then it must follow the same line of logic the joke had even if it was faulty. The only reason you can not my point is through your own pride and arragence. Just give up.. On every count i have beaten you because you refuse to acknowledge the purpose of the argument in your attempt to be right on every count. I can admit my faults and have done so. Would it kill you to put aside your pride and see the point. I little humility never hurt anyone. The thing is argument can be fun if your not always trying to be right.. but that requires humility. At first it seemed fun but you can never admit fault on your side no matter the situation. You said you where older than most of us here right? I thought you would be more fun than this and not so stuck up. sorry.
Ethos: Alignment
Logos: Action depending on alignment
Pathos: Consequence of Action.
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Did you even take an argument class?
Ethos: An argument based on Ethical values. (such as the rules or laws.)
Logos: An argument based on Logical values.
Pathos: An argument based on Emotional values.

Your argument is based off a principal guide line in the game.
(The player's set alignment) That is a rule. That makes the argument Ethical.

My argument was not based on the rules or whether they would let him take said action but on the action it'self. Making my argument Pathos and walking through the terminology as well as considering my Literal word choice make my argument Logos as well..
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This is laughable.

I will state again;

A character's alignment DICTATES the character's action.

If he attacks, he is Chaotic Good.

If he does not and refers to authority; he is lawful good.

If he has hypothetically shot a bolt of lightning, then he was never Lawful Good in the first place; which invalidates the hypothetical argument.

Your character is simply playing chaotic neutral at the moment.


Sigh.. I give, You are arguing on Ethos only.. I am arguing on Ethos/Logos/Pathos.. There is no longer point in an argument if you refuse to use Logos. and you do not understand the word Hypothetical. A hypothetical argument is and arguement based on a hypothesis. the hypothesis was not based on whether he would cast the spell, it was based on what WOULD happen if he DID cast the spell. In a Hypothetical arguement logos is the most important as technachality is everything! sorry. So if that would change his alignment and he absolutaly set of the spell he jokingly threatened to do, than his alignment would have changed because it is not based on his alignment but rather his actions. oh and i am Chaotic Good. Again i have no question as to whether he would do this because i am sure he will not. I am simply making sure he would regret taking said action if he did... Hypothetically.. The arguement is laughable on both sides but what you misunderstand is that i know that he would not do it and i fully understand your side of the arguement. The laughable part is that you misunderstand mine.
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Even if he hypothethically fired a round of electricity, he hypothetically would be against his alignment. If he chooses to live up to his alignment, then he would not in the first place. In otherwords, he would not regardless of condition because of his alignment. He would rather seek help from the authorities.


Fine if he follows his alignment yes he would never do that. However i restate that the alignment plays no valid pert in the Hypothetical situation because it is only taking in to account that he would have already cast the spell regardless of his alignment. A hypothetical argument is never based on what Would happen as a hole but rather focuses on a singular if even improbable event for the argument. Also good point on the authorities.. I'll make sure to sit near a fire place.. :) I would not want the authorities to get to close.. the book might catch flame.. O.o
I am sure but the argument is not based on whether he would but rather if he hypothetically did. @VKAllen so though i have faith that he will make the wise choice. the discussion was based of his remark on using and electric spell against sionnie in the tavern. so it matters not his alignment if he did it anyways. lol
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