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thewizardguy said
He hates Jewish people?

Well, me and my friend were walking to the library to print stuff for English, and him and another 1st year were walking in front of us, and the guy was ranting about how Hitler was only trying to cleanse the world, and he did nothing wrong, and it wasn't his fault etc. and his friend was disagreeing, and my friend said something (can't remember what it was....it was something against Hitler) and his friend turns around and goes "thank you!" and the other kid gets really annoying and starts ranting to MY friend about how Hitler was right and stuff and I was really confused
And according to some people in my classes, his wallpaper was Hitler, and that makes it sound like he's just doing it for a joke or whatever, but if you actually saw him, you wouldn't think he was joking....this kid's serious
And we were standing outside Spanish, and him and some other first years were with him, and the 2nd bell rang (it had been a break) and he starts walking away, and as he's passing me and my friends (it wasn't aimed at us or anything) he turns around and shouts "death to equality!" like really loudly, and we were so confused.....I really don't know what's up with him. I really want to know what primary (school) he went to....

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Tyki said
we made a bet concerning your sexuality :P

.....why......

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thewizardguy said
Either that means he's uncontrollably extreme in his views, or he's bluffing. I have two brothers, and I wouldn't disown them for ANYTHING. I don't even know if that's legally possible.

We also ended up talking about this kid in 1st year.....long story short we're pretty sure he's a nazi, and our teacher was like "Yeah, I've heard about him....." so obviously it's not just the people in my class who've noticed it

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thewizardguy said
That's lucky for you. Hopefully they'll be able to revisit their views later in life. My advise is to speak to them 1-on-1 instead of in groups. Groups promote irrational views in individual members, and the spirit of the group can drive one to greater extremes than individual minds will allow.

I would rather just not talk to them. And it's nearly impossible to speak to them individually. I mean, the ones who aren't too bad would be easy to speak to, but the others.....yeah it would be literally impossible :P

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Oh, and, I remember a few months ago one of the boys said that he's against gays because, and I quote, "he doesn't want boys liking him"
Like, dude, no. I can think of plenty of girls that would not want you liking them, but it's not their fault you're straight

And this same guy has a twin brother
We're all pretty sure his brother's gay. That's where it gets complicated
And apparently he said that if he brother is gay, he's going to disown him and never talk to him for the rest of his life. Tbh it seems like something he would do.

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Tyki said
that's pretty much been every argument i've ever had except i was the minority >.>

Well, it was me and 1 other friend, against about 10 boys.The rest of the class were either just watching, or ignoring our argument. The teacher was sort of just watching/listening and seeing how it played out

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Tyki said
*huggles* creed owes me five bucks :P

Wait, what? O.o

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thewizardguy said
Damn. I wasn't going to say anything of the sort. Their point of view is stupid and silly, and you should try and AVOID those points of views. What you're dealing with their is a belief based on faith, at which point their arguments will make no sense. At which point, you can never win a discussion like that.

They're sexist, homophobic, racist, and just plain ignorant.
Re-reading that, it does't sound as bad, but I got really annoyed.
But the good thing, is that we can choose to leave school at the end of 4th year, and judging by the type of people they are, a lot of them are probably gonna leave ASAP, meaning I'll never have to see them again. And I'm not going to be in a lot of their classes in 3rd year......

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Tyki said
did you come out of the closet?

Not quite.....

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thewizardguy said
........ What happened?

Long story short, I had SE first period, which is the class with our guidance teacher, and because we're going into 3rd year, and we've done the whole course choice thing and stuff, we were talking about careers, and how certain groups of people are at a disadvantage through no fault of their own, and halfway through the period we started doing this thing, where on the tables there were statements, and we had to write on a sticky note (in groups) what they thought of it. The boys were being really sexist on one of them.
One of the statements was "homosexual males shouldn't be allowed to work with children" and they all agreed (they also said that boys can't be nurses, they HAVE to be doctors). My and my friend started arguing with them (keep in mind that a LOT of the people I'm friends with aren't straight, so some of the stuff they were saying really annoyed me), and it got to the stage where me and my friends were pretty much shouting at them. Eventually our teacher told us to sit down so we could discuss it.Their arguments were stupid and didn't make sense, like, according to them, "gay men shouldn't work with children because they might fall in love with them and rape them (pretty much the exact words)" and I was like "That's paedophilia, not homosexuality! They are NOTHING alike!" and none of their arguments made sense and it just annoyed me so much some of the stuff they were saying. One of them went back to the whole Adam and Eve excuse, and I was like "You don't believe in God, you cannot use the bible as an excuse" and by the end of the lesson it was the teacher trying to talk to them, and them giving arguments that made no sense, and I was just sitting with my head on the desk because I was so annoyed at them, I couldn't even look at them.
At the end, me and a couple friends sort of stayed back a bit (we had music next and the music teachers are really nice, so it wouldn't matter if we were a bit late) and the teacher was saying she was really surprised at how homophobic they were, and she thought that because we were younger, we would be more accepting

And please don't say "don't get annoyed at them, try and see it from their point of view" etc. because I physically can't, because what they're saying makes no sense whatsoever

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