Vacare

Myriad Reality

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Memories that end up washing away after enough time, no matter how memorable.
*Clinks the empty glass against the others, and speaks with a strained voice*
My purpose in life is to stay alive. Whatever the cost.

@Fractured

That's not quite true either... What you do will affect everything and everyone around you. Memories fade, yes, but the lingering moments no matter how small live on. You shape the world with every action, even your words will have impacts on people who will either be inspired or dismayed by them. Their actions will be influenced by yours. Monuments, civilizations, all of them are built upon the backs of little things. If my life is finite, I'd rather die knowing that while my being may be forgotten, through my deeds, the world that I leave behind lives on.

But to each their own I believe. We are at an impasse. I do enjoy these talks, we had these in the mages circle a lot. Hmm, what about you miss SideSlash, anything you'd like to add?

Myriad Reality

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When you're alive, you can still try to make your life worth something. When you die, you're out of options. It's over. You're slowly forgotten until you never existed in the first place. That's a fate I have no interest in.

@Fractured

Not if you make your life a memorable one and especially not if you pass your skills and stories down to the people worth it to you. Perhaps that's your purpose in your life, to become as memorable as possible. If that's the case, then Lily made the right choice being interested in you. You've got greatness in your eyes I think. Even if you yourself don't realize it yet.

Myriad Reality

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You're right, Lily doesn't have the same perspective. But I don't get it either—why is anyone drawn toward some final destruction? What's the difference between dying now and dying later if you want to die at all?

@Fractured

The reasoning is simple if you stop and think about what immortality really means. It's not about wanting death, it's not about dying either. It's accepting that there is a natural cycle to things, it's about the appreciation of time, it's about the appreciation of the finite, the appreciation of finality.

To answer your question in the most direct way possible, there is no difference if you think about it. Only the time in between each death. My question is, which life would've been more meaningful? If I died now, I could at least say I'm satisfied... I fought until the last. If I died later, perhaps I'd still be satisfied... But for a different reason entirely. The exercise of life is to find purpose, death keeps us honest and makes sure that purpose is worth it. How many people do you know could make use of their immortality? Many gods from my realm failed hilariously. I can't really see immortality as a good thing.

Myriad Reality

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Then do it again, meet someone new, go on a new adventure! What joy does death bring that life doesn't have?

@Nimda

Death is a natural end to things. Everything has an end and for some that's comforting. Maybe it doesn't make sense for you Lily, you technically can live forever if I understand correctly. But for mortals, we age, we slow down, we look at things and their meanings change or even degrade over time. We enjoy novelty. But if you've done literally everything in life more than a hundred times, could you honestly say that you could enjoy it? This also means knowing that everyone around you will eventually wither away too. It's a macabre way of looking at it, but death is a friend, it helps us respect the fragility of everything, and understand that every action has a consequence. Beings that live forever tend to forget that. Then again I'm a poetic romantic that sees beauty in even the most macabre things.

Myriad Reality

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How is too much life a bad thing?? What good is there in death?

@Fractured

Let me put it this way. If you live forever, then you could at one point conceivably do everything you ever wanted to do and then some. Meaning you've done everything. I ask you... Then what? Put yourself in a situation where you've done everything there is to do hundreds of times, seen everything there is to see hundreds of times. Some people may like that, but personally it feels empty. There's a sort of specialness in doing things knowing that you only have one shot at everything.

Myriad Reality

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How does dying in a hundred years change anything now?

@Fractured

Death isn't a bad thing. Too much of anything is bad - even life. It doesn't matter whether you die tomorrow or die in a hundred years... What matters is knowing that before you're gone, you've lived every day without regrets.

Myriad Reality

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I just don’t see the thrill of ability of living forever.

@Ignacious

Living forever sounds like a nightmare. Never growing old and watching everyone around you die of old age... Making friends only to realize that they'll never stay... I mean, Noct knows it better than I do... He walks the divine realm and technically is already dead but also... Not really.

Myriad Reality

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*Squints and looks at your face*
Not immortality, then? How much do you think it extended your life?

@Fractured

I wasn't sure before... But now I'm pretty sure you're asking to get killed by miss SideSlash.

Myriad Reality

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I'm starting to see why we're the only regulars here.

@Fractured

Well, I don't mind. I think I'll be a regular here too. This coffee is really good. Plus, without having to ask, you gave Noct some of his favorite food.

*Noct has a satisfied look on his face as he eats the meat bits*

The only thing I wish I could do is get better at determining where we end up through my portals.

Myriad Reality

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Despite their job choices, I am talking about the twins, they are truly the sweetest people you can meet. They do relish their vocation, but they are kind people at heart and will help you if need to be. Especially if the money is there.
*laughs*
As for their work, besides the jobs they take from me…I can’t say. And I think they will attempt to kill you if they know about the most embarrassing thing they did.

@Ignacious

They seem like good kids. It reminds me of the initiates in our circle of mages.