Vandy

The New Frontier: A Marvel/DC One Universe RP

@Morden Man

The New Frontier: A Marvel/DC One Universe RP

@Vandy I think you're taking things a little more personally than intended. You do your thing, homie.

@Morden Man

Its probably the internet's fault and the fact that its easy to read something differently than the writer intended. Wasn't trying to be difficult I just really want to play in this game you've set up. I'll take the Magneto stuff and the more over the top points I noticed myself out. Other than that can we agree to disagree 'homie?'

The New Frontier: A Marvel/DC One Universe RP

<Snipped quote by Vandy>

If you play Lex without an ounce of nuance all you're going to do is play a caricature of Lex.

You have to bear in mind that Lex himself doesn't consider himself a bad guy - he thinks he's a good guy. Nobody walks around thinking they're a bad guy (except maybe Thanos) otherwise they wouldn't do anything at all. Nobody is suggesting you play Lex as a hero. Just that you remember in his own story he is the protagonist and that at this point in the story he's at the top of his game. The Justice League are the undisputed premier superhero team in the world and LexCorp is doing well.

You have an opportunity to do something other than Superfriends Lex. Make use of it.

@Morden Man

I was never going to have him walk around evil laughing as he murders dozens of people. In fact I just looked over my sheet and think that that little Christmas day thing was dumb and bad. I realize he doesn't see himself as the bad guy. That I know. His criminal connections are there so he can make money and then send the Justice League after to gain fame. He isn't running a human trafficking ring, he isn't a drug lord, and he certainly isn't planning on taking over the planet with some kind of mega superhero mind control device. He's not about to go give weapons to terrorists unless he plans on taking them out. That's having fun with him leading the JLA, do you really not think he would set himself up with enemies to fight when things quiet down? And he is definitely going to go after real bad guys. Its not like I'm saying all JLA villains are funded by Lex Luthor. He's not emperor Palpatine. I don't see why I can't have him be the leader of the JLA without him being a manipulative jerk out for himself. Yeah he wants to use people like Captain America but its not like he's going to send him to unwittingly kill the Queen of England.

And frankly saying that my character is without an ounce of nuance or is "superfriends Lex" is pretty uncalled for. Perhaps we should discuss this via PM instead of on the actual OOC. This probably won't get us anywhere as it is apparent that you have a certain way you want Lex to be portrayed and I think you're seeing "he has criminal connections" as "Lex is openly stating that he intends to rule the world."

The New Frontier: A Marvel/DC One Universe RP

Can we cut the Magneto stuff? I'm also not very fond of the Mercy/Lex thing either - it seems a little tad unsophisticated for Lex.

Your Lex reads a little too "Mwahaha!" evil. Too Norman Osborn in Dark Avengers. I'm not sure whether you ever read it but I think Lex at this stage is more Helmut Zemo in the Thunderbolts. He's been funding the world's premier super team for several years and whilst it began as a ploy to spite Superman there's a part of him that is beginning to enjoy the adulation. Rubbing shoulders with Captain America has rubbed off on him more than he'd like.

Ultimately he's still Lex and when push comes to shove he's still going to be the same old Lex. But... don't be afraid to have a little fun with him being in charge of the JLA. A little uncertainty is a good thing.

@Morden Man

Well I mean, Lex IS a bad guy. He is the bad guy that everyone thinks is a good guy, sure he is leading the Justice League but he is Lex Luthor. He's doing it to further his agenda. I can dial it down some I guess but I'm not going to play Lex as a good guy or a "misunderstood" business man. He's selfish and doing what he thinks will further grow his power, that's who he is. I plan to have all his criminal stuff blow up in his face, lose the Justice League, go full evil, truly try to redeem himself and become a better person, fall back into old habits. I don't want him to be bleeding heart redemption story yet when he hasn't been beaten into that or have a life changing experience for that to happen.

I know I'm just a player, but my opinion of the whole "Lex secretly is behind the MRA and Kelly didn't come up with it himself" bothers me. It kind of takes away Kelly's political climate and tries too hard to make Lex behind everything morally unscrupulous. Not a fan.

@Gowi

That was really more of a "hey maybe we should do something about these mutants" thing than a "here is my plan on getting rid of these people, you should do it or I murder your family" thing. Maybe the bullet point history didn't convey that well.

The New Frontier: A Marvel/DC One Universe RP

@Morden Man Here he is. Let me know if I need to change anything. I'm also going to mention @Blue Demon in case you get Cap and want to change some things in history and relationships. Same to @Lord Wraith for Batman stuffs.

Name:
Alexander Joseph "Lex" Luthor

Alignment:
Lawful Evil

Affiliation:
LexCorp
Justice League of America

History:

Early Life

• July 11, 1979: Lex Luthor is born.
• April 18 1983: Lex's father, Lionel, loses his position on the Metropolis City council after his business with the local crime families are brought to light by the young reporter Perry White. This causes the man to fall into deep alcoholism.
• October 4, 1984: Lex's sister, Lena, is born.
• August 18, 1992: Lex's mother is beaten to death by his father during one of his drunken bouts of rage and is sentenced to twenty years of prison. Lex and his sister are left to fend for themselves.
• November 1, 1992: Lex refuses to be taken into state care and instead opts to raise his sister himself. This causes quite a stir in the local news but the attention quickly dies down.
• August 13, 1995: Lex tests his way out of high school and gains a full scholarship to Harvard. He begins university and quickly rises to the top of his class.
• May 22, 1999: After only four years he graduates with 15 doctorates across both science and math fields of study. He is offered a job by the United States government to research advanced weapon and medical technologies.
• February 4, 2000: Lex's sister Lena is diagnosed with stage 3 breast cancer. He commits all of his government allocated resources towards finding a cure.
• August 2, 2001: Lena dies of cancer. Lex sees this as a personal failure and quits his job. He disappears for two years.

Building a Legacy

• March 8, 2003: Lex returns to the public and announces the creation of LexCorp in Metropolis. He is accompanied by dozens of scientists from SHIELD, ARGUS, STAR LABS and many other organizations.
• October 15, 2003: After only a few months LexCorp becomes one of the nation's top weapons manufacturers competing with the likes of Stark Industries.
• November 30, 2005: LexCorp accepts a contract with the United States government that allows the company to only provide weapons to the nation.
• January 1, 2006: LexCorp expands its business to include medical and computing branches. Later that year they create the world's first smartphone, the LexPhone.
• April 27, 2007: Luthor sends his private security force to eliminate Taliban terrorists in Afghanistan that had "stolen" LexCorp weapons. The company is praised by praised throughout the nation.
• June 15, 2008: Lex secretly begins funding criminal activities to further his wealth. He begins to personally meet with underworld contacts and even got into the occasional gunfight.
• May 28, 2009: Lex's past returns to haunt him as dozens of newspapers bring up his father's prison sentence to attack his character. He replies with the message, "If every man where crucified for the sins of his father, no man would be alive today."
• December 25, 2010: LexCorp releases the LexPhone 3L to to consumers everywhere. Also, the LexFoundation is formed as a charity for orphans around the world.

Birth of the Superhero

• December 31, 2011: Lex begins to hear rumors of a vigilante in Gotham. He begins to give further funding to his interests in the local underworld through Oswald Cobblepot. (If that's okay with Wraith)
• April 13, 2012: Lex is approached by Senator Robert Kelly and is asked to show support of the Mutant Registration Act.
• May 24, 2012: Lex throws a party for his friend Robert Kelly after the bill is successfully passed.
• July 28, 2012: LexCorp security uncovers a plot by a mutant terrorist organization to assassinate on Senator Kelly. An attack he has every intention of stopping.
• January 23, 2013: Superman beats Lex to the punch on stopping the attack on President Kelly. For the first time in years he begins to feel overshadowed by another person.

Creating the Justice League-Present

• April 11, 2013:Hoping to manipulate Superman into working for his agenda and hoping to capitalize on the media buzz around the assassination attempt, Lex announces the creation of the Justice League of America. He offers Superman a place on the team but is publicly refused. Despite this other such as Ant Man and Batman join the team. (Wraith's sheet say formerly/temporarily under affiliation. Will change if need be.)
• April 12, 2013:Enraged Lex begins searching the world for his own superheroes. He begins the "JLA Initiative"
• May 16, 2013: A research team led by Lex himself uncovers the body of Captain Steve Rogers frozen in ice. He is thawed out and offered a job in the JLA. Captain America Agrees and is globally announced as leading the team.
• July 13, 2013: LexCorp scientists discover Mjölnir. After a time they eventually bring Thor into the JLA.
• March 2, 2014: Lex begins using the Justice League to dispose of his old criminal "clients." Soon only a few of his more important contacts remain.
• March 23, 2014: Batman begins to distrust Luthor though still joins the League as a reserve member. The two begin a small rivalry but are willing to work together when the need arises.
• April 2, 2014: Lex denounces Superman in front of the entire nation calling him, "A powerful alien with dreams of tyrannically policing the world." The rivalry between the two intensifies.
• June 3, 2015: The Parasite attacks LexCorp HQ claiming that Lex is himself responsible for his condition. The Justice League saves the day and Lex announces that because of this personal attack he will be taking a more hands on approach with the League. He builds his own suit of armor akin to that of Iron Man and joins the League's active roster.
• February 2016: Whatever happens IC

Supporting Cast:

Allies

• President Robert Kelly: This is really a one sided relationship. Lex pretends to be the president's friend but he is really only using the man. He sees him as useful and often decides to assist him when it comes to mutant related problems.
• Mercy Graves: Lex's secretary and unofficial lover. She was once a scientist working for his company but he decided he wanted her working closer to him due to her... talents.
• Captain America: The public face and leader of the Justice League of America. While Lex respects the man, he still sees him as someone to manipulate. He does consider Steve a friend but he would betray him in a heartbeat if it would further his agenda. (If Blue Demon wins you can change this I suppose)

Rivals

• Tony Stark: Lex sees Tony as someone who thinks he is as intelligent as he is. While Lex respects the man he does not consider him an equal, a fact he has no intention of hiding.
• Batman: While Lex doesn't hate Batman, he still finds him to be annoying after he left the Justice League. Batman is an extremely capable person and Lex is scared that he could expose him. Though he would never admit it. (Wraith can change)

Enemies

• Superman: Superman is the one person that Lex is legitimately jealous of. He hates him with a passion. Not only because he refused his offer to join the Justice League, but also because he naturally has power that took Lex a lifetime to build. He doesn't really care that Superman is potentially dangerous, just that he is potentially MORE dangerous than Lex.

How (if at all) does the New Frontier version of your character differ from the original?:
This version of Lex is born in Metropolis itself instead of his normal early origin of Kansas. Other than that he is still pretty much the same guy. Well except for the fact that he created the Justice League.
Post References:
http://www.roleplayerguild.com/topics/89227-star-wars-the-417th-legion-dead
http://www.roleplayerguild.com/posts/2801803
http://www.roleplayerguild.com/posts/2651777

The New Frontier: A Marvel/DC One Universe RP

@Vandy Yeah, Lex spends million/billions/gazillions (delete where necessary) scouring the globe for superheroes and uncovers ice cube Captain America and LexCorp are the first to the site where Mjolnir crashes to Earth once Thor is exiled.

@Morden Man

Awesome, thanks! I'll incorporate that into my sheet.

Oh and, BTW @Vandy. I'm fighting you for Cap. ;)

@Blue Demon

Gotta say, you are one of the people I really don't want to compete against because you always seem to write quality stuff. I welcome the challenge! *tries to hide worried expression*

The New Frontier: A Marvel/DC One Universe RP

So since I plan on making a Captain America sheet I want to ask did (or could) Lex have anything to do with finding good ole Steve and waking him up? @Morden Man

The New Frontier: A Marvel/DC One Universe RP

Just what I have so far. Should be done soon but I want to give everyone and idea of what I've got.

Name:
Alexander Joseph "Lex" Luthor

Alignment:
Lawful Evil

Affiliation:
LexCorp
Justice League of America

History:

Early Life

• July 11, 1979: Lex Luthor is born.
• April 18 1983: Lex's father, Lionel, loses his position on the Metropolis City council after his business with the local crime families are brought to light by the young reporter Perry White. This causes the man to fall into deep alcoholism.
• October 4, 1984: Lex's sister, Lena, is born.
• August 18, 1992: Lex's mother is beaten to death by his father during one of his drunken bouts of rage and is sentenced to twenty years of prison. Lex and his sister are left to fend for themselves.
• November 1, 1992: Lex refuses to be taken into state care and instead opts to raise his sister himself. This causes quite a stir in the local news but the attention quickly dies down.
• August 13, 1995: Lex tests his way out of high school and gains a full scholarship to Harvard. He begins university and quickly rises to the top of his class.
• May 22, 1999: After only four years he graduates with 15 doctorates across both science and math fields of study. He is offered a job by the United States government to research advanced weapon and medical technologies.
• February 4, 2000: Lex's sister Lena is diagnosed with stage 3 breast cancer. He commits all of his government allocated resources towards finding a cure.
• August 2, 2001: Lena dies of cancer. Lex sees this as a personal failure and quits his job. He disappears for two years.

Building a Legacy

• March 8, 2003: Lex returns to the public and announces the creation of LexCorp in Metropolis. He is accompanied by dozens of scientists from SHIELD, ARGUS, STAR LABS and many other organizations.
• October 15, 2003: After only a few months LexCorp becomes one of the nation's top weapons manufacturers competing with the likes of Stark Industries.
• November 30, 2005: LexCorp accepts a contract with the United States government that allows the company to only provide weapons to the nation.
• January 1, 2006: LexCorp expands its business to include medical and computing branches. Later that year they create the world's first smartphone, the LexPhone.
• April 27, 2007: Luthor sends his private security force to eliminate Taliban terrorists in Afghanistan that had "stolen" LexCorp weapons. The company is praised by praised throughout the nation.
• June 15, 2008: Lex secretly begins funding criminal activities to further his wealth. He begins to personally meet with underworld contacts and even got into the occasional gunfight.
• May 28, 2009: Lex's past returns to haunt him as dozens of newspapers bring up his father's prison sentence to attack his character. He replies with the message, "If every man where crucified for the sins of his father, no man would be alive today."
• December 25, 2010: LexCorp releases the LexPhone 3L to to consumers everywhere. Also, Lex personally murders Bruno Mannheim and his wife on Christmas Day for muscling in on the Metropolis underworld gun trade.

Birth of the Superhero

• December 31, 2011: Lex begins to hear rumors of a bat vigilante in Gotham. He begins to give further funding to his interests in the local underworld through Oswald Cobblepot. (If that's okay with Wraith)
• April 13, 2012: Lex calls Senator Robert Kelly and suggests creation of the Mutant Registration Act.
• May 24, 2012: Lex throws a party for his friend Robert Kelly after the bill is successfully passed.
• July 28, 2012: LexCorp begins to secretly fund the mutant terrorist Magneto hoping to get him to plan an assassination on Senator Kelly. An attack he has every intention of stopping.
• January 23, 2013: Superman beats Lex to the punch on stopping the attack on President Kelly. For the first time in years he begins to feel overshadowed by another person.

Creating the Justice League-Present

• April 11, 2013:Hoping to manipulate Superman into working for his agenda and hoping to capitalize on the media buzz around the assassination attempt, Lex announces the creation of the Justice League of America. He offers Superman a place on the team but is publicly refused. Despite this other such as Ant Man and Batman join the team. (Wraith's sheet say formerly/temporarily under affiliation. Will change if need be.)
• April 12, 2013:Enraged Lex begins searching the world for his own superheroes. He begins the "JLA Initiative"
• May 16, 2013: A research team led by Lex himself uncovers the body of Captain Steve Rogers frozen in ice. He is thawed out and offered a job in the JLA. Captain America Agrees and is globally announced as leading the team.
• July 13, 2013: LexCorp scientists discover Mjölnir. After a time they eventually bring Thor into the JLA.
• March 2, 2014: Lex begins using the Justice League to take out any of his criminal "clients" that step out of line. The League takes out any problem that might expose Luthor before they get the chance all under the guise of heroism.
• March 23, 2014: Batman begins to distrust Luthor and resigns from the Justice League. (If that is cool with Wraith.)
• April 2, 2014: Lex denounces Superman in front of the entire nation calling him, "A powerful alien with dreams of tyrannically policing the world." The rivalry between the two intensify.
• June 3, 2015: Magneto attacks LexCorp headquarters in Metropolis. The Justice League saves the day and Lex announces that because of this personal attack he will be taking a more hands on approach with the League. He builds his own suit of armor akin to that of Iron Man and joins the League's active roster.
• February 2016: Whatever happens IC

Supporting Cast:

Allies

• President Robert Kelly: This is really a one sided relationship. Lex pretends to be the president's friend but he is really only using the man. He sees him as useful and often decides to assist him when it comes to mutant related problems.
• Mercy Graves: Lex's secretary and unofficial lover. She was once a scientist working for his company but he decided he wanted her working closer to him due to her... talents.
• Magneto: This is a very secret relationship that only the two of them know about. They respect each other as much as they can for two men who want to use and manipulate each other. During both the assassination attempt and the attack on LexCorp HQ both had an agenda they each agreed on that was accomplished by both parties. While they appear to be enemies they actually almost consider each other to be friends. (If a Magneto player wants to change this that's fine.)
• Captain America: The public face and leader of the Justice League of America. While Lex respects the man, he still sees him as someone to manipulate. He does consider Steve a friend but he would betray him in a heartbeat if it would further his agenda. (If Blue Demon wins you can change this I suppose)

Rivals

• Tony Stark: Lex sees Tony as someone who thinks he is as intelligent as he is. While Lex respects the man he does not consider him an equal, a fact he has no intention of hiding.
• Batman: While Lex doesn't hate Batman, he still finds him to be annoying after he left the Justice League. Batman is an extremely capable person and Lex is scared that he could expose him. Though he would never admit it. (Wraith can change)

Enemies

• Superman: Superman is the one person that Lex is legitimately jealous of. He hates him with a passion. Not only because he refused his offer to join the Justice League, but also because he naturally has power that took Lex a lifetime to build. He doesn't really care that Superman is potentially dangerous, just that he is potentially MORE dangerous than Lex.

How (if at all) does the New Frontier version of your character differ from the original?:
This version of Lex is born in Metropolis itself instead of his normal early origin of Kansas. Other than that he is still pretty much the same guy. Well except for the fact that he created the Justice League.
Post References:
http://www.roleplayerguild.com/topics/89227-star-wars-the-417th-legion-dead
http://www.roleplayerguild.com/posts/2801803
http://www.roleplayerguild.com/posts/2651777

The New Frontier: A Marvel/DC One Universe RP

<Snipped quote by Vandy>

I'm just explaining the story I had in mind. This whole game came out of a One Universe idea I had about a more embattled Superman working in a world with a JLA financed by Lex Luthor and then I thought, "Why not throw it open to everybody else?" seeing as there's a dearth of comic book games on here.

I think I've said several times that ultimately the player is sovereign over their character and their place in the world once they've been accepted. I stand by that. I just wanted to give you a bit of context, that's all.

@Morden Man

That's fine, I'll keep it. I can work with it without a doubt. I'm currently imagining a battle in which Lex shoots Supes in the face with Kryptonite and yelling "no one refuses Lex Luthor you alien trash!" We're cool, I can deal.

The New Frontier: A Marvel/DC One Universe RP

<Snipped quote by Vandy>

Yes, and Superman's invitation into the Justice League was years ago. Lex creates the Justice League because he wants to control Superman. When Clark says no, Lex spends millions unearthing superheroes of his own, finding and unthawing Captain America, tracking down Mjolnir that had crashed to Earth, all to spite him by creating the greatest superhero team on Earth. The reason the Justice League even exists in this universe was so that Lex could have Clark under his thumb and when Clark refused Lex made sure it was even bigger and more beloved than Superman - in the current climate at least.

Trust me, I've thought this through.

@Morden Man

Alright, alright *throws hands up* if you say so, you're the boss. I will say though I don't think that's such a big deal to change if I want to play the character.

P.S. Not trying to undermine your authority or anything, really you are the boss I don't want to cause any trouble.