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Rough draft of my app.
Name of Nation: Eastern European Democratic Republic
Territories: Poland, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Hungary, Ukraine, Romania
Government Type: Deliberative Democracy (Largely democratic. Representatives are elected by the general populace. These representatives then debate and analyze laws and major decisions before they are chosen based upon overall merits and values.)
Military: The EEDR, out of necessity, has been forced to build an incredibly strong military to defend itself from multiple hostile nations, and was only able to do so due to the economic growth the Slavic nations experienced in the early-mid 21st century. Although the EEDR’s military is slightly smaller than other world powers, it makes up this difference with rigorous training and advanced technology, including frequent use of railguns and DEWs (Directed Energy Weapons). Hypersonic and suborbital aircraft are also prominent, in addition to lightweight armors such as buckypaper. Some unique weapons include:
Pulsed Energy Projectiles (PEPs): involves the emission of an invisible laser which produces exploding plasma. Has seen use as both a lethal and non-lethal weapon. Riot police use the weapon’s pressure wave to stun targets, whereas larger, higher-energy emitters are utilized for the extremely hot plasma they produce and the large pressure wave they can emit, which makes the weapon both useful for melting through vehicle armor, attacking fortifications, and killing clustered groups of infantry. Thanks to its versatility, some military models are equipped to operate at multiple power levels in the event that a switch between lethal and non-lethal force is needed.
Electrolaser: Uses laser to form a Laser-Induced Plasma Channel (LIPC) through which a powerful electrical shock is emitted through and strikes the target. Comparable to a massive taser. The electrolaser, similar to the PEP, can be used for both non-lethal and lethal purposes, but is considerably more complicated to maintain and sees much less frequent use. It is, essentially, a lightning emitter, and can be used to stun or kill human targets, seriously disable or damage electronic equipment, or to study lightning. It is not effective for wireless energy transfer due to low efficiency and danger of use and is only seen in static positions or mounted on large vehicles.
Electrothermal-chemical technology: Although not a replacement to guns, electrothermal-chemical technology allows for improved control over the effects of propellants used in guns and overall allows longer usage-time of guns before repairs are needed. Because electrothermal-chemical technology allows for use of higher-density propellants and smoother expansion, overall muzzle-energy can be increased without fear of damaging the weapon.
Economy: Moderately regulated capitalism economy. Although the economy is not state-controlled, environmental and safety regulations are well-enforced throughout the country. Despite this, the economy within the country itself is primarily free-market in design; the little regulation the government is involved in within the country is primarily for the sake of preventing total monopoly, safety, stopping theft, preventing transactions involving illegal goods, and pollution regulation.
Major exports- Machinery and vehicles, electronic device and machine parts, copper, silver, uranium, mineral products, chemicals, textiles, foodstuffs, various metals, fuels, and energy.
Major imports vary heavily, though they primarily fall into the realm of rare earths, luxury goods, clothing, mineral products, various chemical products, and materials used in vehicle armor and spacecraft.
Foreign Policy: The EEDR has been shown to typically have hostile reactions to oppressive or totalitarian governments to the extreme, although they also maintain a policy of not intervening where assistance is not requested. The EEDR as a whole has made this policy known, openly touting the importance of freedom in the international stage, particularly due to the region’s multiple experiences with hostile occupation in the past.
History: Throughout the 21st century, continued Polish economic growth allowed the nation to become one of the most economically strong and stable nations as the decades went by. Continued Russian aggression in Eastern Europe fostered continued focus on Polish military technology, along with promotion of Polish patriotism that allowed for massive growth in military size as the nation’s population began to fear potential invasion by the Russian federation. Taking note of Poland’s economic and military growth, other Eastern European nations grew especially close to the country, seeing as it was the only nation in Eastern Europe with a particularly strong military and economy. Hungary, already having an extremely close relationship with Poland, formed an official military and economic alliance with Poland in hopes of discouraging invasion by an opportunistic Russia which now had a foothold in the Ukraine.
The Polish government accepted the offer, formalizing their relationship with Hungary with the formation of the Eastern European Coalition of Democratic States, (EECDS), which would eventually transform into the EEDR. Military buildup continued as the two countries shared military and economic resources and technologies, eventually drawing the attention of the pro-Independence Ukrainian government that was intensely struggling to avoid being absorbed into Russia against its will. Although the EECDS did not promptly form a military alliance with this Ukrainian government, it did secretly supply the Ukraine with military equipment and openly provided economic assistance to the recovering nation in order to avoid provoking Russia and still prepare the Ukraine to defend itself. The European Union quickly began to break apart as the 21st century continued on, forcing nations like the Czech Republic, Slovakia, and Romania to look to the EECDS for assistance as they too began to flounder.
Eventually, the three nations were accepted into the EECDS, military buildup only growing in prominence as the 21st century marched on. Especially with the growing political unrest in Europe and Germany in particular, the EECDS feared an invasion by the neighboring nations that were once its friends and was preparing for such with massive amounts of funding poured into military research and production. When the German invasion came, the EECDS was more than prepared.
The antiquated, tried-and-tested tactics of Germany proved to be their downfall against a nation that had so eagerly accepted and desperately engaged in military modernization. In many cases, German Blitzkrieg was unable to break the defenses of the military forts scattered across the EECDS before reinforcements arrived, and found its antiquated methods hard-pressed to defeat EECDS use of guided missiles, hypersonic aircraft, and DEWs. Polish Kommandosow earned special praise in WWIII for repeated assaults on Germany bases and supply depots using HAHO jumps, causing extensive damage to German supply lines along with GROM raids against German field command. Romanian and Hungary Special Forces frequently engaged in ambushes on Germany armored columns, while JW Formoza earned praise for sabotage against German ports and shipping convoys. The EECDS saw the most casualties against the IDF for their utilization of more modern tactics, though conflict with the IDF did not continue once Germany lost the ability to continue hiring the IDF and after the war ended.
By the end of WWIII, the EECDS had caused extensive damage to the German military and the German industrial machine, but showed little interest in occupying Germany. Quite simply, the EECDS mostly left Germany as-is, avoiding anything resembling the post-WWI restrictions placed on Germany in an effort to improve their international image and to avoid fostering hostility in Germany towards their coalition. Although the EECDS did assist German civilians, little assistance was provided to the German government or military, and the EECDS did make sure to doggedly hunt down and destroy whatever military technology the Germans had captured from them.
With the end of WWIII, the nations of the EECDS saw it imperative that they further the safety provided by their formal alliances in an effort to protect themselves from future conflict. Not long after the third world war, a vote began in every one of its member nations on whether or not they would join together to become one nation. Aside from the more complicated clauses, some more basic rules set down included:
-The EEDR government will be officially based in Poland, and will be governed by a leader elected by way of popular vote from every citizen that wishes to vote
-All laws and major actions the government takes will be extensively debated and deliberated on before a decision is made
-Governance will also be performed on a region-by-region basis. Areas left unspecified by federal law may be decided independently by individual provinces
-Freedom of speech is allowed except where it violates another’s freedom of speech
-The right to bear arms is given to all citizens who have not committed violent crime or shown to be in a dangerous mental state
-All citizens are given the right to vote.
-Major decisions will be made by representatives elected by the general population. Each individual province will allowed representatives, as will each large concentration of unique ethnic groups, in order to ensure representation of all citizens
-Martial law may only be enacted by a majority vote of representatives or citizens, during attempted coups, during periods of heavy rioting or revolt, or during other circumstances where the country is threatened with collapse
Foes: Russia, tenuous relations with the NAF
Demographics:
30% Polish, 28% Ukrainian, 12% Roma, 8% Hungarian, 7% Czech, 7% Slovak, 2% Belarusian, 6% Other
28% Catholic, 23% Protestant, 12% Orthodox, 30% Atheist/Agnostic, 7% other
Other:
Name of Nation: Eastern European Democratic Republic
Territories: Poland, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Hungary, Ukraine, Romania
Government Type: Deliberative Democracy (Largely democratic. Representatives are elected by the general populace. These representatives then debate and analyze laws and major decisions before they are chosen based upon overall merits and values.)
Military: The EEDR, out of necessity, has been forced to build an incredibly strong military to defend itself from multiple hostile nations, and was only able to do so due to the economic growth the Slavic nations experienced in the early-mid 21st century. Although the EEDR’s military is slightly smaller than other world powers, it makes up this difference with rigorous training and advanced technology, including frequent use of railguns and DEWs (Directed Energy Weapons). Hypersonic and suborbital aircraft are also prominent, in addition to lightweight armors such as buckypaper. Some unique weapons include:
Pulsed Energy Projectiles (PEPs): involves the emission of an invisible laser which produces exploding plasma. Has seen use as both a lethal and non-lethal weapon. Riot police use the weapon’s pressure wave to stun targets, whereas larger, higher-energy emitters are utilized for the extremely hot plasma they produce and the large pressure wave they can emit, which makes the weapon both useful for melting through vehicle armor, attacking fortifications, and killing clustered groups of infantry. Thanks to its versatility, some military models are equipped to operate at multiple power levels in the event that a switch between lethal and non-lethal force is needed.
Electrolaser: Uses laser to form a Laser-Induced Plasma Channel (LIPC) through which a powerful electrical shock is emitted through and strikes the target. Comparable to a massive taser. The electrolaser, similar to the PEP, can be used for both non-lethal and lethal purposes, but is considerably more complicated to maintain and sees much less frequent use. It is, essentially, a lightning emitter, and can be used to stun or kill human targets, seriously disable or damage electronic equipment, or to study lightning. It is not effective for wireless energy transfer due to low efficiency and danger of use and is only seen in static positions or mounted on large vehicles.
Electrothermal-chemical technology: Although not a replacement to guns, electrothermal-chemical technology allows for improved control over the effects of propellants used in guns and overall allows longer usage-time of guns before repairs are needed. Because electrothermal-chemical technology allows for use of higher-density propellants and smoother expansion, overall muzzle-energy can be increased without fear of damaging the weapon.
Economy: Moderately regulated capitalism economy. Although the economy is not state-controlled, environmental and safety regulations are well-enforced throughout the country. Despite this, the economy within the country itself is primarily free-market in design; the little regulation the government is involved in within the country is primarily for the sake of preventing total monopoly, safety, stopping theft, preventing transactions involving illegal goods, and pollution regulation.
Major exports- Machinery and vehicles, electronic device and machine parts, copper, silver, uranium, mineral products, chemicals, textiles, foodstuffs, various metals, fuels, and energy.
Major imports vary heavily, though they primarily fall into the realm of rare earths, luxury goods, clothing, mineral products, various chemical products, and materials used in vehicle armor and spacecraft.
Foreign Policy: The EEDR has been shown to typically have hostile reactions to oppressive or totalitarian governments to the extreme, although they also maintain a policy of not intervening where assistance is not requested. The EEDR as a whole has made this policy known, openly touting the importance of freedom in the international stage, particularly due to the region’s multiple experiences with hostile occupation in the past.
History: Throughout the 21st century, continued Polish economic growth allowed the nation to become one of the most economically strong and stable nations as the decades went by. Continued Russian aggression in Eastern Europe fostered continued focus on Polish military technology, along with promotion of Polish patriotism that allowed for massive growth in military size as the nation’s population began to fear potential invasion by the Russian federation. Taking note of Poland’s economic and military growth, other Eastern European nations grew especially close to the country, seeing as it was the only nation in Eastern Europe with a particularly strong military and economy. Hungary, already having an extremely close relationship with Poland, formed an official military and economic alliance with Poland in hopes of discouraging invasion by an opportunistic Russia which now had a foothold in the Ukraine.
The Polish government accepted the offer, formalizing their relationship with Hungary with the formation of the Eastern European Coalition of Democratic States, (EECDS), which would eventually transform into the EEDR. Military buildup continued as the two countries shared military and economic resources and technologies, eventually drawing the attention of the pro-Independence Ukrainian government that was intensely struggling to avoid being absorbed into Russia against its will. Although the EECDS did not promptly form a military alliance with this Ukrainian government, it did secretly supply the Ukraine with military equipment and openly provided economic assistance to the recovering nation in order to avoid provoking Russia and still prepare the Ukraine to defend itself. The European Union quickly began to break apart as the 21st century continued on, forcing nations like the Czech Republic, Slovakia, and Romania to look to the EECDS for assistance as they too began to flounder.
Eventually, the three nations were accepted into the EECDS, military buildup only growing in prominence as the 21st century marched on. Especially with the growing political unrest in Europe and Germany in particular, the EECDS feared an invasion by the neighboring nations that were once its friends and was preparing for such with massive amounts of funding poured into military research and production. When the German invasion came, the EECDS was more than prepared.
The antiquated, tried-and-tested tactics of Germany proved to be their downfall against a nation that had so eagerly accepted and desperately engaged in military modernization. In many cases, German Blitzkrieg was unable to break the defenses of the military forts scattered across the EECDS before reinforcements arrived, and found its antiquated methods hard-pressed to defeat EECDS use of guided missiles, hypersonic aircraft, and DEWs. Polish Kommandosow earned special praise in WWIII for repeated assaults on Germany bases and supply depots using HAHO jumps, causing extensive damage to German supply lines along with GROM raids against German field command. Romanian and Hungary Special Forces frequently engaged in ambushes on Germany armored columns, while JW Formoza earned praise for sabotage against German ports and shipping convoys. The EECDS saw the most casualties against the IDF for their utilization of more modern tactics, though conflict with the IDF did not continue once Germany lost the ability to continue hiring the IDF and after the war ended.
By the end of WWIII, the EECDS had caused extensive damage to the German military and the German industrial machine, but showed little interest in occupying Germany. Quite simply, the EECDS mostly left Germany as-is, avoiding anything resembling the post-WWI restrictions placed on Germany in an effort to improve their international image and to avoid fostering hostility in Germany towards their coalition. Although the EECDS did assist German civilians, little assistance was provided to the German government or military, and the EECDS did make sure to doggedly hunt down and destroy whatever military technology the Germans had captured from them.
With the end of WWIII, the nations of the EECDS saw it imperative that they further the safety provided by their formal alliances in an effort to protect themselves from future conflict. Not long after the third world war, a vote began in every one of its member nations on whether or not they would join together to become one nation. Aside from the more complicated clauses, some more basic rules set down included:
-The EEDR government will be officially based in Poland, and will be governed by a leader elected by way of popular vote from every citizen that wishes to vote
-All laws and major actions the government takes will be extensively debated and deliberated on before a decision is made
-Governance will also be performed on a region-by-region basis. Areas left unspecified by federal law may be decided independently by individual provinces
-Freedom of speech is allowed except where it violates another’s freedom of speech
-The right to bear arms is given to all citizens who have not committed violent crime or shown to be in a dangerous mental state
-All citizens are given the right to vote.
-Major decisions will be made by representatives elected by the general population. Each individual province will allowed representatives, as will each large concentration of unique ethnic groups, in order to ensure representation of all citizens
-Martial law may only be enacted by a majority vote of representatives or citizens, during attempted coups, during periods of heavy rioting or revolt, or during other circumstances where the country is threatened with collapse
Foes: Russia, tenuous relations with the NAF
Demographics:
30% Polish, 28% Ukrainian, 12% Roma, 8% Hungarian, 7% Czech, 7% Slovak, 2% Belarusian, 6% Other
28% Catholic, 23% Protestant, 12% Orthodox, 30% Atheist/Agnostic, 7% other
Other:
Dinh AaronMk my beloved (french coded)
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Given the state of politics I can't see any of those extra-territorial states going to Poland. More so given how weak the explanation is given. Even with the "good historic relations" the Poles would have with the Hungarians there's nothing that'd appeal to their already habitual conservatism to allow themselves to be annexed by Hungary. And through the RP's active lore it's very safe to assume that Ukraine would have suffered a lot of harassment by pro-Russians to have more of it go to Russia. And Romanians; they both at the very least speak languages of two massively different languages from Poland.
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Dinh AaronMk said
To not make you feel very alone then we've pretty much painted western Europe in the colors of trending conservatism. Crya's opted to declare France and Italy as being dictatorships of some kind, which I will happily explore to my best de-centralized ability as being far-right. And with our Germany stepping out I spoke with Duck and we're settling on them going far-right as well.Because is gaining steam, as in other places.So I expect and embrace far-rightests as a narrative party and wait to see how Greece or Serbia will be involved.
From what I can gather, Golden Dawn supports the revival of The Megali Idea that encompasses the entirety of the island and the coastal regions of Western Turkey. Serbian nationalism on the other hand, does hint at an irredentist idea of Greater Serbia, but I'm not sure about Bulgaria. Combining the three larger nations into a confederacy makes them a force to be reckoned with in the Balkans since the formation of the Byzantine Empire (however, not to god-mod, their influence only pertains to that region as Russia and Turkey provides a buffer between further expansion towards Iran.)
Also, Jeddaven, If you and I somehow get approved, you'll have a neighbor that is hostile to liberal politics as they blame the former liberal government as degenerate and near Marxist and will blame yours as such.
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I want to see China and Japan broken down into like, county-sized feudal states for the hell of it. Make the map look like it has chicken pox.
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TheEvanCat said
I want to see China and Japan broken down into like, county-sized feudal states for the hell of it. Make the map look like it has chicken pox.
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I accept Jeddaven's app, however to leave some countries for players that find this I will be limiting to Czech Republic, Slovakia, and Hungary.
Dinh AaronMk my beloved (french coded)
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HeilixAxel42 said
From what I can gather, Golden Dawn supports the revival of that encompasses the entirety of the island and the coastal regions of Western Turkey. Serbian nationalism on the other hand, does hint at an irredentist idea of , but I'm not sure about Bulgaria. Combining the three larger nations into a confederacy makes them a force to be reckoned with in the Balkans since the formation of the Byzantine Empire (however, not to god-mod, their influence only pertains to that region as Russia and Turkey provides a buffer between further expansion towards Iran.)Also, Jeddaven, If you and I somehow get approved, you'll have a neighbor that is hostile to liberal politics as they blame the former liberal government as degenerate and near Marxist and will blame yours as such.
The formation of the full former Yugoslavia would probably also entail strong leaders, or complete ethnic subjugation to force them to settle down. The people of the Balkans don't exactly embrace each other very well.
And I'm familiar with the Magali Idea. The failed effort to rebuild Classical Greece after the First World War.
duck55223 said
I accept Jeddaven's app, however to leave some countries for players that find this I will be limiting to Czech Republic, Slovakia, and Hungary.
I'll be expecting a lot of conflict between Magyar nationalism and Slavic interests, since the Hungarians don't identify with the Slavs at all as a people. I could take and understand a military pact between them, but annexation of one or the other simply wouldn't go over well. Not in the long term.
TheEvanCat said
I want to see China and Japan broken down into like, county-sized feudal states for the hell of it. Make the map look like it has chicken pox.
I'd be OK with this if I didn't already have plans that required a unified China.
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TheEvanCat said
I want to see China and Japan broken down into like, county-sized feudal states for the hell of it. Make the map look like it has chicken pox.
Well, India did a little of that to China during the 'WWIII' period. Tibet is now released from China as a independent country (with the political guidance of their friendly neighborhood hegemon India, of course), and has been its own nation-state for a year now. Darkwolf (Russia) and I have also been entertaining the idea of making it so that Russia, India's ally, swooped in to the Asian WWIII, an Indo-Pakistani conflict over Kashmir which escalated to the point where Pakistan launched nuclear warheads at western Indian cities (most notably the capital, New Delhi) and India retaliated by sending an unnecessary amount of nuclear missiles to more or less obliterate Pakistan. China, wanting to decrease the position of India in Asia to leave themselves as the unquestionable continental superpower, stepped in and declared war on India to halt their Chinese-labeled genocide and bring stability to southern Asia (stability coming of course with a big helping of Chinese hegemony and influence).
At this time India had a state of emergency going on and had a military government in place, so China assumed Russia (a historical and RL Indian ally since the Cold War era) wouldn't step in. Russia did, however, and China lost their two-front war, ceding contested territories to India and releasing Tibet under independent rule beneath the new Dalai Lama. I have no clue what darkwolf wanted out of the peace treaty, but I assuming he might release Xinjiang or Manchuria... or just take some land. Anyway, afterwards China could have experienced mass rebellions and the like, subsequently Balkanizing, if that's the feel we want for China.
This is all unofficial and unconfirmed thus far, but I hope to get it approved when my Nation Sheet rolls in.
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As a repeated note I will absolutely need a China strong enough to exert influence. If you rape the shit out of China it invalidates my story-arcs and I'll feel lost and really incapable of going on because I won't have any consistency with anything.
And given the rate of Han-izing China there wouldn't really by any Manchus to support a solely, Manchu nationalist state. So there'd be a good chance it'd just re-annex itself to China proper.
And given the rate of Han-izing China there wouldn't really by any Manchus to support a solely, Manchu nationalist state. So there'd be a good chance it'd just re-annex itself to China proper.
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Dinh AaronMk said
As a repeated note I will absolutely need a China strong enough to exert influence. If you rape the shit out of China it invalidates my story-arcs and I'll feel lost and really incapable of going on because I won't have any consistency with anything.And given the rate of Han-izing China there wouldn't really by any Manchus to support a solely, Manchu nationalist state. So there'd be a good chance it'd just re-annex itself to China proper.
In that case, no Balkanizing. I still need to have won the war and freed Tibet, though. I'm completely fine with having China be powerful and able to exert hegemony (more powerful than myself, even) as it should provide some interesting challenges, but winning the war is paramount for me. Anyway, if I am correct in assuming that you want them to still be a powerful force in Africa, than I have no issue with that- I just wrecked some parts of southern China and pressured Beijing into a peace-deal. They're still a major player on the world stage.
As for the release of Manchu, that was just a light suggestion. I have no clue what Darkwolf plans to do with China after his victory, and subsequently can't really speak for him (he didn't even mention Manchu, I was just rambling as I oft do).
Also, Dinh, if your le Armie sans Frontiers had the men to spare at the time, do you mind if I put in my sheet that I employed a relatively small force of your mercenaries in northern Tibet/southern Xinjiang against the Chinese three or four years ago? They'd be doing hit-and-run operations to hamper infrastructure and drawing Chinese troops from the battle-lines. You'd be paid (of course) and it seems to fit moderately well with your whole shadow-war against China. Anyway, just a proposition, my story-arc/history shouldn't hampered if you deny, it's just for fluff.
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Fisheye said
In that case, no Balkanizing. I still need to have won the war and freed Tibet, though. I'm completely fine with having China be powerful and able to exert hegemony (more powerful than myself, even) as it should provide some interesting challenges, but winning the war is paramount for me. Anyway, if I am correct in assuming that you want them to still be a powerful force in Africa, than I have no issue with that- I just wrecked some parts of southern China and pressured Beijing into a peace-deal. They're still a major player on the world stage.As for the release of Manchu, that was just a light suggestion. I have no clue what Darkwolf plans to do with China after his victory, and subsequently can't really speak for him (he didn't even mention Manchu, I was just rambling as I oft do).
Stealing Tibet from them would probably be enough and to let the area sort of become like Asia's Alascea-Lorraine pre Second World War. But China'd have enough strength and resources behind it that you probably wouldn't be able to force them to start releasing everyone.
There'd also be the cost of the war itself that'd still do a number on them, as it would anyone else. So you shouldn't need to tear the Communist Party a new ass hole.
Also, Dinh, if your le Armie sans Frontiers had the men to spare at the time, do you mind if I put in my sheet that I employed a relatively small force of your mercenaries in northern Tibet/southern Xinjiang against the Chinese three or four years ago? They'd be doing hit-and-run operations to hamper infrastructure and drawing Chinese troops from the battle-lines. You'd be paid (of course) and it seems to fit moderately well with your whole shadow-war against China. Anyway, just a proposition, my story-arc/history shouldn't hampered if you deny, it's just for fluff.
I wouldn't have a protest. I could even mention it later on.
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Dinh AaronMk said
Stealing Tibet from them would probably be enough and to let the area sort of become like Asia's Alascea-Lorraine pre Second World War. But China'd have enough strength and resources behind it that you probably wouldn't be able to force them to start releasing everyone.There'd also be the cost of the war itself that'd still do a number on them, as it would anyone else. So you shouldn't need to tear the Communist Party a new ass hole.I wouldn't have a protest. I could even mention it later on.
Sounds fine to me. All I really wanted to gain from the war was to challenge China's hold on Asia, firmly place contested Himalayan territory under Indian management, and liberate Tibet to place it under Indian hegemony. By this point India's pretty fatigued with war (and who can blame them, all things considered) and would have wanted to ended the war with China as swiftly as possible.
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Dinh AaronMk said
The formation of the full former Yugoslavia would probably also entail strong leaders, or complete ethnic subjugation to force them to settle down. The people of the Balkans don't exactly embrace each other very well.
I would go the route of complete ethnic subjugation as the Yugoslav Wars and the genocide of Bosinan Muslims is causes this to be more likely. Serbia and Greece still hold a good relationship with each other since they share the Eastern Orthodox Faith, share the same former Byzantine territories, and have a raging hatred of Turks among other things.
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darkwolf687 said
Territories: Armenia (Democratically joined, possibly rigged), Beralus, Georgia (Officially democratically joined. Vote suspected to be rigged), Russia, Ukraine
Ahem...
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Double post, my bad
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I would go the route of complete ethnic subjugation as the Yugoslav Wars and the genocide of Bosinan Muslims is causes this to be more likely. Serbia and Greece still hold a good relationship with each other since they share the Eastern Orthodox Faith, share the same former Byzantine territories, and have a raging hatred of Turks among other things.
Remove kebab from premises.
I'mma also say that I'mma be rather cautious if Serbia annexes Greece or Greece annexes Serbia. You seem like a reasonable person I don't need to worry about. But as you can see, we got a lot of weird "Nations annexing nations because nation is scared of other nation" nations that it's becoming very silly, as the opinion of the RP's mod.
This shit just doesn't happen really, or else we'd be having all of Free Europe in the Second World War or all of Western Europe post-war declaring themselves direct territories of the United States or United Kingdom.
darkwolf687 said
Ahem...
I thought Russia's app only had part of the Ukraine.
Also, Aaron, do you think my app might be more acceptable if I changed the degree to which there is integration to the point where it's a more EU/NATO-esque coalition, where there is heavy integration and cooperation, but individual states are more independently governed?
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You're apparently stepping on feet I guess.
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Pah, Armenia would never join that bloc democratically...
Maybe it would. Depends on if Sargsyan is in charge. Sargsyan rigs elections like a dungeon master rigs gimp suits.
But yeah, it wouldn't willingly give up its independence to join Russia. Too many bad memories of subjugation by the USSR. And before that, there were the Kebabs. And we all know how that ended.
Maybe it would. Depends on if Sargsyan is in charge. Sargsyan rigs elections like a dungeon master rigs gimp suits.
But yeah, it wouldn't willingly give up its independence to join Russia. Too many bad memories of subjugation by the USSR. And before that, there were the Kebabs. And we all know how that ended.
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