Well, Joffrey was still an insufferable classic chaotic evil when he saw Arya practicing her swordplay with the Butcher’s kid. Now while even if I made him more competent “suddenly direwolf” still gives him a big disadvantage. But instead of being a whiney little twit I decided he’d have this strong sense of pride that he’d not tell anyone he was bested by someone like Arya. I also spun an idea that this is where he initially got a little intrigued by the younger Stark daughter. So, that would obviously change events though I’m certain him peckishly hiding a wolf bite due to his sense of honor would make Cersei livid when she found out.

1 > 3 > 2 would be my preference of your ideas.

Definitely willing to write this. Though I ponder how we'd keep it interesting.

Gowi said
Well, Joffrey was still an insufferable classic chaotic evil when he saw Arya practicing her swordplay with the Butcher’s kid. Now while even if I made him more competent “suddenly direwolf” still gives him a big disadvantage. But instead of being a whiney little twit I decided he’d have this strong sense of pride that he’d not tell anyone he was bested by someone like Arya. I also spun an idea that this is where he initially got a little intrigued by the younger Stark daughter. So, that would obviously change events though I’m certain him peckishly hiding a wolf bite due to his sense of honor would make Cersei livid when she found out.

1 > 3 > 2 would be my preference of your ideas.

Definitely willing to write this. Though I ponder how we'd keep it interesting.

Yes but he still gave Sansa and necklace and seemed the most tame during that scene. I think his intentions by the river were good, though his swordskills were crap and Arya was able to best him. (right in the pride!) I think in the future, they could teach one another swordsmanship. I think the first idea is one we could continue to work on. And even just add the third to in the manner that Ned is spared and sent elsewhere, since it could ease tensions for the new couple, whenever. If you wanted to have Joffrey hide the event and the bite, which is fine with me, it would spare the direwolf and possibly make Arya give him a second glance.

Of course ego is easier to consider than, say Joffrey being a crazy person so I think it could work.

if Sansa blabbed to Cersei about the bite, it could surely make Joffrey grow tired of someone so dull (and who got him into trouble, and hell, she snitches on her sister) and then say he'd rather mess up Arya's life, thus changing the engagement or it would be the point when Sansa is taken out of the city (possibly by Petyr's doing for Cat's love or something). In terms of keeping it interesting, it is why I suggested they end up leaving King's Landing at some point when things get too chaotic.

I don't see Arya staying willingly so I could see her sneaking off and probably stubborn Joffrey (with his ego or possibly curiosity?) follows her?

Just spitballin' here.

This all sounds pretty good for spitballin’ though and I don’t mind some of these ideas. Though I can imagine the Cersei-Joffery divide growing a lot more with the ideas in my head like bits where she demands to know why he didn’t speak of the attack in the first place and irritated as all hell he’d tell his mother blankly it’s none of her concern. My Joffrey is more concerened with impressing his father and garnering attention in any ways (hence why he in my mind takes up more rigid training with the sword and when the Battle of Blackwater happens he so mans up.) – I’m just not sure how we’d explain the King running off playing “adventure”. Hm…. You know what?

I am so down for this. Sign me up for idea development.

Gowi said
This all sounds pretty good for spitballin’ though and I don’t mind some of these ideas. Though I can imagine the Cersei-Joffery divide growing a lot more with the ideas in my head like bits where she demands to know why he didn’t speak of the attack in the first place and irritated as all hell he’d tell his mother blankly it’s none of her concern. My Joffrey is more concerened with impressing his father and garnering attention in any ways (hence why he in my mind takes up more rigid training with the sword and when the Battle of Blackwater happens he so mans up.) – I’m just not sure how we’d explain the King running off playing “adventure”. Hm…. You know what?

I am so down for this. Sign me up for idea development.

Joffrey does need to prove his worth.

While Cersei's love for her children is her only saving grace, her overbearing tendencies could easily also contribute to the rift forming between mother and son. On top of that, Joffrey saw how valued Arya was (even as a handful) by both her mother and father in Winterfell. Might not be a stretch to guess he might be a little jealous of low key life of already being strong in her own right. (wouldn't admit it though, I doubt)

Joffrey needing to "man up" and prove himself, as well as his status as future King of the realm, etc. On top of that, he could actually start to notice the ladies, or at least the other way around. Jamie isn't around to help, his father has died, Joffrey needs some kind of figure if we had Tywin off dealing with the war in the North, etc. Which is why we could bring in the Hound or something.

Plenty to do I think. In terms of action, adventure, crazy interactions. And development. If we wanted, to could bring Gendry in? I'm a bit indifferent about him but he could be fun to toy with once Arya and Joffrey warm up to each other, I could see Joffrey's crazy-side coming when "threatened" by another guy. *rolls eyes a lil*

If you are on board, I made an OOC for us:

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Hello again.
Frankly, the Dudley x Luna pairing sounds really really good to me and from the few I know of GoT or asoIaF the Jon x Cersei thing could strangely work, both being the need to be acknowledged but cannot be types.

I would say Luna x Dudley would be pretty fun to work with, we could substitute that pair for one of the others we were talking about.

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Really craving Orphan Black, Star Trek TNG or possibly GoT or Doctor Who.

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