Lucian said
Don't worry, that's roundabout the minimum age when there was one, but I'd like to take a moment to remind everyone, (Trips, Idle, looking at you) That the spam community can be overly protective and really picky about who it allows to integrate with it. Don't take this personally, kid, it happens to everyone, sans a few exceptions, like myself. :P

Fuck off, you're not the hall monitor.

Lucian said
Don't worry, that's roundabout the minimum age when there was one, but I'd like to take a moment to remind everyone, (Trips, Idle, looking at you) That the spam community can be overly protective and really picky about who it allows to integrate with it. Don't take this personally, kid, it happens to everyone, sans a few exceptions, like myself. Basically, just keep a low profile and insert yourself gradually. And guys, be gentle, and they'll come around. I'd rather gently move the community in the right direction as it expands then forcefully halt expansion by being overly abbrassive to the new people. :P

It really isn't picky, some people fit in right away. And I don't think you're in quite the position to criticize idle or myself, I've seen how you go off on people.

As much as I used to criticize the way spam initiated people, it has worked for the place.

Though I will say that hollywood did seem to take advice regarding the whole ellipses issue. that's something.

idlehands said
Fuck off, you're not the hall monitor.

I'll monitor you're hall.

Doivid said
It really isn't picky, some people fit in right away. And I don't think you're in quite the position to criticize idle or myself, I've seen how you go off on people. As much as I used to criticize the way spam initiated people, it has worked for the place.Though I will say that hollywood did seem to take advice regarding the whole ellipses issue. that's something.

To what situation are you referring?

Also, sure, it works, but it seems to me that a gentler approach is more effective. Example being Joe. We were pretty easy on him, and he's accommodated nicely.

Holy shit... It's like what happens when Turt cooks, Mtn prepares, Nat shits, DragonKingUK eats again and pukes out, AYMM and Elena has sex in said puke and once these fucked up babies are born they're all raised by DarthWarMan!

Lucian said
I'll monitor hall. To what situation are you referring? Also, sure, it works, but it seems to me that a gentler approach is more effective. Example being Joe. We were pretty easy on him, and he's accommodated nicely.

Joe isn't a very good example because he actually hasn't integrated. And idk dude, but I've seen you get disproportionately angry about shit people are doing and like straight up curse them out in a rant for being stupid. I probably should think of specific examples, but I assumed you'd remember what I was referring to.

Thank you lucian for supporting me

Teoinsanity said
Thank you lucian for supporting me

Don't worry, this only escalated when Lucian stepped in. Don't take it to heart and you'll do fine.

so begin the intergration process

Doivid said
Joe isn't a very good example because he actually hasn't integrated. And idk dude, but I've seen you get disproportionately angry about shit people are doing and like straight up curse them out in a rant for being stupid. I probably should think of specific examples, but I assumed you'd remember what I was referring to.

I've only ever done something remotely close to what you're describing twice. The first time was directed at nat, and I didn't curse him out, I said something to the effect of, "Why does Nat get special treatment for his seniority when he shitposts more than anyone else?"

The second time was directed at AYMM, and, again, I didn't curse her out. I did call her stupid, yes. I also called her desperate and a few other things, but only after she tried to personally insult me. I initially approached the AYMM situation the same way I normally would, which was pretty much, "Hey, be careful, because spam will rip you a new one for doing what you're doing."

Teoinsanity said
Thank you lucian for supporting me

You don't need to thank me, it's no big deal.

Doivid said
Don't worry, this only escalated when Lucian stepped in. Don't take it to heart and you'll do fine.

This hasn't escalated yet, it's still a discussion, unless I'm missing something.

Lucian said
I've only ever done something close to what you're describing twice. The first time was directed at nat, and I didn't curse him out, I said something to the effect of, "Why does Nat get special treatment for his seniority when he shitposts more than anyone else?"The second time was directed at AYMM, and, again, I didn't curse her out. I did call her stupid, yes. I also called her desperate and a few other things, but only after she tried to personally insult me. I initially approached the AYMM situation the same way I normally would, which was pretty much, "Hey, be careful, because spam will rip you a new one for doing what you're doing."You don't need to thank me, it's no big deal.This hasn't escalated yet, it's still a discussion, unless I'm missing something.

Well those were definitely not the only times, because I was a little taken aback by your attitude. But I can understand if you get comfortable somewhere and become a little overzealous. Happens to the best of us. :)

And you did make this bigger than it was, since all I asked him was how old he was. I have trouble gauging ages here, I tend to think people are younger than they are. Not really sure that warranted a lecture.

Lucian said
I'll monitor you're hall.

I'm not Nex so I won't grammar Nazi you, but don't lecture me. These kids need to learn, we're trying to help them not enable them.

Doivid said
Well those were definitely not the only times, because I was a little taken aback by your attitude.

I can't tell if you're thinking of somebody else, or of something that happened years ago or something. Please explain.

Doivid said
And you did make this bigger than it was, since all I asked him was how old he was. I have trouble gauging ages here, I tend to think people are younger than they are. Not really sure that warranted a lecture.

It didn't take much to connect what was being said in the "Weirdest Picture" thread and you asking Teo for his age. Unless I read your response to Awson's suggestion to nazi-out all of the kids wrong. It seemed as if you were in favor of such an idea, judging by your response. Of course that was all relatively light-hearted. You were apparently already thinking along the lines of "spam should be kid-free" before asking Teo his age, and then Idle responded (predictably) pretty bitterly to the knowledge, which was the reason I addressed both of you.

All I was saying is that I felt it would be a lot more productive to handle new people a bit less abrasively. You're the one who stated that I was in no position to say anything about the subject, which was kind of ridiculous, considering your reasons for looking at me that way are pretty much unfounded.

EDIT:

idlehands said
I'm not Nex so I won't grammar Nazi you, but don't lecture me. These kids need to learn, we're trying to help them not enable them.

Oh whoops. Also, how does it help anyone to oust them from the site? Saying shit like, "It's your bedtime." completely demeans said person's potential value. I don't know Teo, but all I'm saying is that being unnecessarily dickish isn't helping anyone. What if Card had been hassled about his age when he joined the guild? We'd be down one pretty awesome person just because they were younger than you.

It's not about being a kid-free place, far from it. It's about having some standards. One Nat is enough. Every wonder why Spam is so quiet these days?

Lucian said
I'll monitor hall.

Someone didn't catch a hint.

Lucian said
I can't tell if you're thinking of somebody else, or of something that happened years ago or something. Please explain.It didn't take much to connect what was being said in the "Weirdest Picture" thread and you asking Teo for his age. Unless I read your response to Awson's suggestion to nazi-out all of the kids wrong. It seemed as if you were in favor of such an idea, judging by your response. Of course that was all relatively light-hearted. You were apparently already thinking along the lines of "spam should be kid-free" before asking Teo his age, and then Idle responded (predictably) pretty bitterly to the knowledge, which was the reason I addressed both of you. All I was saying is that I felt it would be a lot more productive to handle new people a bit less abrasively. You're the one who stated that I was in no position to say anything about the subject, which was kind of ridiculous, considering your reasons for looking at me that way are pretty much unfounded.EDIT: Oh whoops. Also, how does it help anyone to oust them from the site? Saying shit like, "It's your bedtime." completely demeans said persons potential value. I don't know Teo, but all I'm saying is that being unnecessarily dickish isn't helping anyone.

First of all, it's a joke because I'm obviously older than he is. I've had a little running joke about telling kids to go to bed for awhile. Do you really think I'm serious, I don't even know what time zone he's in.

Being dickish? Where have you been because pretty much Spam's always been this way. It's less of being a dick and more of seeing if someone can hang without getting butthurt. As silly as it sounds, you have to earn your place, it's not given to you. Even on an internet forum.

I have nothing personal against any of them, I hope they learn and stick around but if you want instant acceptance and super nice fun smiley times, go to the Member's Lounge.

Lucian said
I can't tell if you're thinking of somebody else, or of something that happened years ago or something. Please explain.It didn't take much to connect what was being said in the "Weirdest Picture" thread and you asking Teo for his age. Unless I read your response to Awson's suggestion to nazi-out all of the kids wrong. It seemed as if you were in favor of such an idea, judging by your response. Of course that was all relatively light-hearted. You were apparently already thinking along the lines of "spam should be kid-free" before asking Teo his age, and then Idle responded (predictably) pretty bitterly to the knowledge, which was the reason I addressed both of you. All I was saying is that I felt it would be a lot more productive to handle new people a bit less abrasively. You're the one who stated that I was in no position to say anything about the subject, which was kind of ridiculous, considering your reasons for looking at me that way are pretty much unfounded.

They're not unfounded, and it's why I said my impression of you on old guild was different, because you've gone off the rails a number of times here. I admit I don't have any specific examples right now for you, but I remember them pretty well. and no I wasn't thinking of 'years ago' or 'someone else'. You were a nonentity to me until near the end of old guild.

Also you're doing an awful lot of assumptions about my state of mind, so idk what's going on there. You're in like patronizing lecture mode tonight or some shit.

I have no earthly clue what made you think that was productive given how spam has made it this far. I've called people on shitting on the new people with faulty information, but otherwise there's no need to step in like a benevolent father figure. That's a mighty high pedastal.

But seriously Idle, go to bed.

Lucian said
EDIT: Oh whoops. Also, how does it help anyone to oust them from the site? Saying shit like, "It's your bedtime." completely demeans said persons potential value. I don't know Teo, but all I'm saying is that being unnecessarily dickish isn't helping anyone.

Oh good lord, it can't be reasoned with.

Someone take it out back.

idlehands said
First of all, it's a joke because I'm obviously older than he is. I've had a little running joke about telling kids to go to bed for awhile. Do you really think I'm serious, I don't even know what time zone he's in.

how about you go to bed oldy.

no wait I remember my grandpa stayed up late and barely slept at night because he napped in his recliner all day.

go...watch walker texas ranger in your lazyboy, oldy.

idlehands said
It's not about being a kid-free place, far from it. It's about having some standards. One Nat is enough. Every wonder why Spam is so quiet these days?

Firstly, Nat isn't a kid, so that just goes to show how silly it is to assume that any minor will be a shitposting dork. Also, standards? How is it up to any of us to decide Spam's standards? That's the job of the Mods, not you.