Ok, there seems to have been a few misunderstanding here.
Gia said
you can’t be an operator/admin on the IRC if you already have Guildside powers.OK. Check.
I didn't mean "We can't have the same admins/mods here be incharge there".
I meant it needs to strictly be a community, that any strong presence of moderation could very easily lead to more bannings or controlling than anything else.
I've seen many conversations on the Guild stifled because either an Admin or Mod didn't like it, or because someone else didn't and then asked an Admin or Mod to close it on everyone else.
And every community I've seen do this has lost activity over time as a result, because people were to afraid to talk fully openly, or about certain topics.
But in communities where admins and mods didn't tend to do that, activity would flourish because we felt more bonded and close as an open and honest community.
Not one where people need to watch what they say or they'd get in trouble.
Gia said
By suggesting that you need to have a chat that’s all RP all the time, you’re essentially dictating a conversation you won’t always be a part of, with the expectation that someone will always be able to pick up the thread and run with it, so to speak.
When I said "Encourage community and involvement", I meant encouraging the site community to interact and get along with more of each other.
I did not mean that it should all be focused on roleplaying.
+I wasn't trying to suggest there should be hard rules to enforce it either (in fact I specifically spoke against that).
What I was suggesting was we should try to nudge people in one direction, try to persuade people to making a closer community rather than a cliche. Not to outright force them.
Gia said
Now, regarding your ban.
I should have elaborated.
When I said "I'd rather not turn this thread into a "X Mod is a prick!" I should have said "I'd rather we stay on topic, and not derail this about one banning".
I brought the case up as an example to show what I was detailing above, where such things can happen, community get's stiffled.
+I even said "May it be for personal reasons
or Guld Regulation reasons". So I never even argued that it may not have been justified.
But, incase you do insist on arguing this I'm doing to start work on a longer/more detailed reply of this now through PM.
So as to not derail/lose focus on this thread. May I be in the wrong or not, it wasn't meant to be the main topic of this thread.
And I've been on OT long enough to know if this debate get's it's wheels turning in this thread, it's original point
will be lost.
Edit: So, in the PM thing i was given a link to the logs of the case itself
here.Note, I'm not posting this to get a debate going. I'm posting it just incase people see moving it to PM as trying to dodge the bullet.
With this link, you can look at it yourself, make your own opinion and decide if I was in the wrong or not. Once again
don't make this a 'debate this ban' thread.
This is just so you people aren't left in the dark of what's being referenced as a result of me taking it to PM.