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Take a tip from grandpappy MDK. Lay off the debates for a while. I get into them because I care about whatever issue -- but then all people saw of me for a long time was 'look at this dude, all he does is rant about OT shit for hours.' That's not all I did, but how was anybody supposed to know better? People see the image we project, whether we mean to project it or not. And interderpbates tend to involve a lot of image-projection. So I laid back for a while and chilled out, and now I'm seen as less of a total cunt. I could write you a ten-page thesis on all the reasons I wasn't actually a cunt, but that's kind of the self-defeating. Just chill for a while. Chilling is good for you, and for some stupid reason people like you better afterwards.
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Smiral said
that's the most ridiculous and frustrating mindset you can possibly have


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that's the most ridiculous and frustrating mindset you can possibly have


You mean it's fusturating that my self-confidence isn't dictated/controlled by spam?
Ah... I know, must be hard for you guys not having a pawn to push around.

In all seriousness though, I find the fact that people think having the ability to not give in to everyone as ridiculous... :/
I mean really? Do you honestly think it's better for one's confidence/self-worth to be dependent on others?
Or do you only find it frustrating because it's me who has this skill/mindset? And not say someone you get along with?

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Take a tip from grandpappy MDK. Lay off the debates for a while. I get into them because I care about whatever issue -- but then all people saw of me for a long time was 'look at this dude, all he does is rant about OT shit for hours.' That's not all I did, but how was anybody supposed to know better? People see the image we project, whether we mean to project it or not. And interderpbates tend to involve a lot of image-projection. So I laid back for a while and chilled out, and now I'm seen as less of a total cunt. I could write you a ten-page thesis on all the reasons I wasn't actually a cunt, but that's kind of the self-defeating. Just chill for a while. Chilling is good for you, and for some stupid reason people like you better afterwards.


That's what I have tried before, several times (and am currently doing in Iwaku).

But then the 'timer' for such a thing keeps getting reset because someone will barge into a completely un-debating thread, and then lose their cool out of no where. Essentially going "OMG Gwazi! Why start an argument!?", where even if all I was doing was having fun with the others they're accusation get's enough pull that people will jump on a wagon and see it as me being responsible for the argument.

At this point it honestly looks like it's far less of a "Gwazi is starting arguments" case and more of a "People want to believe Gwazi is starting an argument" scenario.
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if that bugs you, you're not chilling hard enough.
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Mismanagement and broken promises kids, that's the ticket to migration. Simply put; some of us were just fed up. :D

And Gwazi, the sheer amount of arrogance inherited in your standpoint where you cannot even see when your own idol is criticizing and picking you apart is what people don't like. And because people don't want to get into a circle jerk like they did in OT with you doesn't mean people don't wanna discuss big topics. Get over yourself.

Toodles.
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mdk said
if that bugs you, you're not chilling hard enough.


It's not bugging me. I'm just saying it's what's getting in the way of people being less hostile.

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Mismanagement and broken promises kids, that's the ticket to migration. Simply put; some of us were just fed up. :DAnd Gwazi, the sheer amount of arrogance inherited in your standpoint where you cannot even see when your own idol is criticizing and picking you apart is what people don't like. And because people don't want to get into a circle jerk like they did in OT with you doesn't mean people don't wanna discuss big topics. Get over yourself.Toodles.


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Take a tip from grandpappy MDK. Lay off the debates for a while. I get into them because I care about whatever issue -- but then all people saw of me for a long time was 'look at this dude, all he does is rant about OT shit for hours.' That's not all I did, but how was anybody supposed to know better? People see the image we project, whether we mean to project it or not. And interderpbates tend to involve a lot of image-projection. So I laid back for a while and chilled out, and now I'm seen as less of a total cunt. I could write you a ten-page thesis on all the reasons I wasn't actually a cunt, but that's kind of the self-defeating. Just chill for a while. Chilling is good for you, and for some stupid reason people like you better afterwards.


I don't think you're a cunt man. <3
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I don't think you're a cunt man. <3


[2]

I never did think of you that way either.
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[2]I never did think of you that way either.


I HAVE FAILED
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I HAVE FAILED


Remember I deal with the same reputation. :P
So it could just be a matter of that stuff doesn't bother me so it's not something that stands out.
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@Gwazi

What bother's me is the not knowing. I always hate not knowing/understanding something, being left in the dark, lied to, etc.
So when people behave in very angry/hostile ways for apparently no reason, it bothers me because I'm just dying to know what the line of reasoning is (or if they are not actually using reason, what causes them to emotionally explode in such ways).


Yeah I thought as much. Because then if you knew it can be placed into your world view, managed, and also in turn reflectively give you more understanding and control over your self. Not knowing in many ways is like being punished for a crime without being told what you did wrong. The thing about social settings though, is that in regards to people responding positively and working with you, it's all to do with the messages you give off. Because what people are measuring is "how much are dependant on the results of things", "is your message authentic".

In order to genuinely be liked, because everyone ultimately are always looking for reasons to why people get what in order to learn and better themselves, and so everyone ultimately have degrees of caring about what others think about them, with that then displaying social status, they are naturally attracted to people who aren't emotionally restrained to things and authentic about it (because people can read 90% of what you're putting off in body language and tone), as it shows that the person's sense of value is placed somewhere else and therefore they mirror the person's sense of value back to them, and it shows honesty that this person's sense of self can be trusted.

So, ultimately, not caring about it, but then making the effort to find an independance from the outcome and make your life happy without it, is the best policy in fixing it. Try meditation, it's gr8.
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I'm not sure if I read that right. :/

Are you saying that the dislike largely has to do with implied/perceived messages they are getting from me? Not stuff I actually say or do?
And that they prefer people whose emotions are more open book/obvious?

As for the advice bit: Like I said, I'm already happy regardless of people's opinions of me. Comment's such as say Hellis's only make me laugh and go "Wow, do they really have nothing to do than to try to act tough?" (That is, once I turn off the "Must correct wrong information" part of my head. But that's not caring about the individuals thoughts, that's just a fixation I have whenever I seen something wrong/inaccurate get said).

So in a sense I'm already fixing it (I think), but then people start more conflicts by themselves, and then pin it on me.
Which is making me suspect, maybe this isn't so much a *fixable* issue. Just that these people need something/someone to throw their anger/insecurities at, and I'm an *easy* target for them to do it at.
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Why the fuck did I spend my time reading this thread?
Fuck this thread

This thread is literally dicks

Why did I reply to it in the first place?

Do I really think I'm that fuckin funny

Fuck me

I'll fucking wreck me the next time I decide to pull some of this shit.
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I guess I picked the wrong time to come back to Spam.
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scribz said
In order to genuinely be liked, because everyone ultimately are always looking for reasons to why people get what in order to learn and better themselves, and so everyone ultimately have degrees of caring about what others think about them, with that then displaying social status, they are naturally attracted to people who aren't emotionally restrained to things and authentic about it (because people can read 90% of what you're putting off in body language and tone), as it shows that the person's sense of value is placed somewhere else and therefore they mirror the person's sense of value back to them, and it shows honesty that this person's sense of self can be trusted.


I'm taking away your use of the comma for the rest of the day, Scribz. You're done.
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Why the fuck did I spend my time reading this thread?Fuck this threadThis thread is literally dicksWhy did I reply to it in the first place?Do I really think I'm that fuckin funnyFuck me I'll fucking wreck me the next time I decide to pull some of this shit.
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I'm taking away your use of the comma for the rest of the day, Scribz. You're done.


But, why?, D: ,
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I'm not sure if I read that right. :/Are you saying that the dislike largely has to do with implied/perceived messages they are getting from me? Not stuff I actually say or do?And that they prefer people whose emotions are more open book/obvious?As for the advice bit: Like I said, I'm already happy regardless of people's opinions of me. Comment's such as say Hellis's only make me laugh and go "Wow, do they really have nothing to do than to try to act tough?" (That is, once I turn off the "Must correct wrong information" part of my head. But that's not caring about the individuals thoughts, that's just a fixation I have whenever I seen something wrong/inaccurate get said).So in a sense I'm already fixing it (I think), but then people start more conflicts by themselves, and then pin it on me.Which is making me suspect, maybe this isn't so much a *fixable* issue. Just that these people need something/someone to throw their anger/insecurities at, and I'm an *easy* target for them to do it at.


HMHMHMHMHM HMHMHMHMHM it's too much to explain in one sitting.
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mdk said
Take a tip from grandpappy MDK. Lay off the debates for a while. I get into them because I care about whatever issue -- but then all people saw of me for a long time was 'look at this dude, all he does is rant about OT shit for hours.' That's not all I did, but how was anybody supposed to know better? People see the image we project, whether we mean to project it or not. And interderpbates tend to involve a lot of image-projection. So I laid back for a while and chilled out, and now I'm seen as less of a total cunt. I could write you a ten-page thesis on all the reasons I wasn't actually a cunt, but that's kind of the self-defeating. Just chill for a while. Chilling is good for you, and for some stupid reason people like you better afterwards.


Those people have short memories, then.

Though I do see the humor in you summing up your behavior as 'ranting'. That's some creative recollecting.
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