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Wrongness is a wonderful thing.

@Keyguyperson I'm sure the reference to Witold Pilecki was intentional, and I can't believe this is the first I've heard about this guy. Too cool.


Yep. His name is explicitly mentioned in the background I just put up. He's a personal hero of mine, which is the main reason I decided to use his brother. I considered using Witold himself, but there's no way I can do that man justice.

By the way, if anyone is interested in talking to the asshat lab assistant, let me know. Because I doubt the asshat lab assistant is going to actively seek anyone out. Being perfectly honest, it would be quite interesting if he happened to be in the next table over from Ros and Klaus. While he probably has the common decency to not interrupt a date by talking about mass murder, there's definitely an opportunity for his magic to be revealed there.
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Wrongness is a wonderful thing.

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Yep. His name is explicitly mentioned in the background I just put up. He's a personal hero of mine, which is the main reason I decided to use his brother. I considered using Witold himself, but there's no way I can do that man justice.

By the way, if anyone is interested in talking to the asshat lab assistant, let me know. Because I doubt the asshat lab assistant is going to actively seek anyone out. Being perfectly honest, it would be quite interesting if he happened to be in the next table over from Ros and Klaus. While he probably has the common decency to not interrupt a date by talking about mass murder, there's definitely an opportunity for his magic to be revealed there.


You could do that, or throw him at Aaron. It's his job to examine magic's effect on humans, after all. I assume that his magic is known to the team, and just suspicious conjured objects are explained away?
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Oh, I'm psyched for the wrongness. It makes for [i]wonderful[/i[ moral dilemmas and great backdrop to develop characters. I can't wait to explore this topic further!

Jeez, how does someone convey excitement over something so wrong without sounding like an absolute crap person? Heh.
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i think about the depiction of evil and atrocities in fiction a lot, actually (take that as you will.) There's a good exchange between Roger Ebert and the guys who made the film "Chaos" that has some good reflections on the topic here: http://www.rogerebert.com/rogers-journal/evil-in-film-to-what-end

ultimately, my thought is that it's important to talk about this stuff, because erasure makes it easier for atrocities to repeat themselves, and it's important to walk through the same moral paradigms and examine why people might have done the things they done. (Plus, better to do it through fiction than in a setting where real lives are affected.) That clearly doesn't mean becoming neo-Nazis or Hitler apologists, but it does mean examining monsters of the pasts as humans and not wholly unfathomable creatures.

might be getting in too deep here. Just my two cents, anyhow.

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We're all as sickly excited for some insane character development as you, trust me. You're in good company.


understatement.

Wrongness is a wonderful thing.

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Yep. His name is explicitly mentioned in the background I just put up. He's a personal hero of mine, which is the main reason I decided to use his brother. I considered using Witold himself, but there's no way I can do that man justice.

By the way, if anyone is interested in talking to the asshat lab assistant, let me know. Because I doubt the asshat lab assistant is going to actively seek anyone out. Being perfectly honest, it would be quite interesting if he happened to be in the next table over from Ros and Klaus. While he probably has the common decency to not interrupt a date by talking about mass murder, there's definitely an opportunity for his magic to be revealed there.


It would be very interesting if he were the next table. That's definitely somewhere he'd want to be, if he wanted to get inside info on the SS agenda. Does he know Ros is spying on Klaus? No reason why we wouldn't, if he's a spy worth his salt.

By the way, just going to mention here- very impressed with the character. Great attention to detail and historical record, and again, the Witold Pilecki thing is just too cool. Cool magical ability, too- it's like magic has made him a wormhole where ordinary rules of time and space don't apply to objects.
One question- how much conscious control does he have over this? Could he, say, summon the canister with the dark hole at some point in the future?

One last thing- this may be obvious but this RP is a little more complex than most, and as such will be more like a collaborative writing project and less like a free-for-all adventure. I propose we discuss loose storylines here in the OOC before writing everything out. I have some ideas that I'll post in a second, but I'm hungry, so you'll have to wait a bit.

(In the meantime, if you have plot ideas, make yourself heard now.)
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understatement.

I was trying not to scare them off just yet

It would be very interesting if he were the next table. That's definitely somewhere he'd want to be, if he wanted to get inside info on the SS agenda. Does he know Ros is spying on Klaus? No reason why we wouldn't, if he's a spy worth his salt.


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I second that opinion because if I was a spy I would be very interested why in the world Ros wants to date Klaus, and I mean it's not like she's creeping around following Klaus or anything that your character would catch her doing but it wouldn't be hard to spot her handing in weekly reports about Klaus if she was being followed.
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@Kierkegaard Oh no, I truly appreciate the theories of why people think the way they do and all that jazz. Forgive my lack of eloquence, it's getting a little late here and I can't be expected to think after 10pm, haha.

As for plot ideas, so far I've just been picturing character-specific situations. I had hoped to discuss more all-encompassing plots here.

Personally, a scene that's been replaying in my mind is a very sad, self-loathing drunk scene featuring Aaron discussing his disgust toward what he's working with in terms of his religious beliefs. I've really got quite the monologue lined up, really. I feel like Ros would be a good sounding board here, since all the things he'd be spewing would be pretty incriminating as a possible threat to the ears of a spy like her.

I've got the plotting part of my brain turning non-stop, so you can probably expect a lot more where this came from.
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It would be very interesting if he were the next table. That's definitely somewhere he'd want to be, if he wanted to get inside info on the SS agenda. Does he know Ros is spying on Klaus? No reason why we wouldn't, if he's a spy worth his salt.

By the way, just going to mention here- very impressed with the character. Great attention to detail and historical record, and again, the Witold Pilecki thing is just too cool. Cool magical ability, too- it's like magic has made him a wormhole where ordinary rules of time and space don't apply to objects.
One question- how much conscious control does he have over this? Could he, say, summon the canister with the dark hole at some point in the future?

One last thing- this may be obvious but this RP is a little more complex than most, and as such will be more like a collaborative writing project and less like a free-for-all adventure. I propose we discuss loose storylines here in the OOC before writing everything out. I have some ideas that I'll post in a second, but I'm hungry, so you'll have to wait a bit.

(In the meantime, if you have plot ideas, make yourself heard now.)
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Obviously, he has no control over it right now. Theoretically he could summon the canister, but since the hole technically isn't an object, it probably wouldn't come along (Unless, you know, magic). As for his knowledge, he could very well know about Ros. For one, she's a codebreaker. He regularly corresponds with the TAP, obviously using a code. He'd want to keep an eye on her to make sure she doesn't crack his own code. After all of that, he'd know that she's not going out with Klaus just because he's tall.

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You could do that, or throw him at Aaron. It's his job to examine magic's effect on humans, after all. I assume that his magic is known to the team, and just suspicious conjured objects are explained away?


Yes, the team would definitely know that he has magic. Since everyone involved in the experiment seems to have it, there's no way anyone would think that he just happens to be some kind of magic-repellent being. However, as far as the team knows, his magic hasn't manifested itself. People can definitely be suspicious though. The saber would have been innocent if it were a one time thing, but by now he has presumably had to explain way more than a saber.

@Kierkegaard Oh no, I truly appreciate the theories of why people think the way they do and all that jazz. Forgive my lack of eloquence, it's getting a little late here and I can't be expected to think after 10pm, haha.

As for plot ideas, so far I've just been picturing character-specific situations. I had hoped to discuss more all-encompassing plots here.

Personally, a scene that's been replaying in my mind is a very sad, self-loathing drunk scene featuring Aaron discussing his disgust toward what he's working with in terms of his religious beliefs. I've really got quite the monologue lined up, really. I feel like Ros would be a good sounding board here, since all the things he'd be spewing would be pretty incriminating as a possible threat to the ears of a spy like her.

I've got the plotting part of my brain turning non-stop, so you can probably expect a lot more where this came from.


For larger plot points, Józef is almost definitely going to be trying to kill someone important. If he manages to master his magic, he'll basically have an unlimited arsenal of weapons, perfect for his role. There's no way he could resist the temptation to kill someone with a summoned grenade, or perhaps something more personal like his saber. Obviously, there's a lot of development time in between now and then, and it could be interesting to see which way the characters go, who might break Józef's cover, who might try to help him, etc.
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Loose ideas for an initial arc:
- Sometime in the near future an SS officer will approach Klaus about the offensive applications of the Zauber Project. Klaus, recalling Ros's unease from lunch, will question his role as a bystander/enabler in the Third Reich and be uncooperative.
- Sometime in the near future the SS will launch a raid on the basement laboratory to seize their lab notes and the canister. Klaus and the newly defected Ros will grab shit and run. Aaron and Jozef are welcome to come along/aid in the escape efforts. Up to you.
- Our scientists + SS defector go into hiding with a canister with a mini black hole in it. Inconspicuous. So very inconspicuous.

Insert hilarious training montage a la X-Men First Class where they learn to control their magical powers.

Loose ideas for a second arc:
- Our motley crew form or join a kind of underground resistance movement
- Tangentially relevant: now would be a good time to read up on the White Rose if you've never heard of them because I think they're cool as fuck.
- Jozef kills, or tries to kill, someone. Everyone applauds.
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Aaron does not disappoint. Hilarious.

two relevant plot things:
- I think it's cool that not all of, or even the majority of, our characters are opposed to the Nazis to start out with. That'll probably change once the Nazis start shooting at them, but there's a lot of room for character development here and that'll be fun.
- @Obscene Symphony Aaron and Klaus are probably good friends because a) it makes things convenient plotwise and b) they've both been at Humboldt for forever, so it's plausible. thoughts?
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Aaron does not disappoint. Hilarious.

two relevant plot things:
- I think it's cool that not all of, or even the majority of, our characters are opposed to the Nazis to start out with. That'll probably change once the Nazis start shooting at them, but there's a lot of room for character development here and that'll be fun.
- @Obscene Symphony Aaron and Klaus are probably good friends because a) it makes things convenient plotwise and b) they've both been at Humboldt for forever, so it's plausible. thoughts?


Thank you, I try.
I have no issue with that, it definitely makes sense. Not to mention Klaus is just too fun to interact with not to have some excuse to do so.

**EDIT I also like how most of our characters aren't opposed to the Nazis. I mean, it's great to be on the right side of history, but these people either/both don't know any better and have almost no choice. Frankly, I'm tired of seeing people playing characters with unrealistic views for the era, you know?
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upon discovery that not only is Klaus Eichmann a real person, he is the son of Nazi war criminal Adolf Eichmann and virulently anti-Semitic, it has been decided that Klaus will be renamed Klaus Foerster.
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upon discovery that not only is Klaus Eichmann a real person, he is the son of Nazi war criminal Adolf Eichmann and virulently anti-Semitic, it has been decided that Klaus will be renamed Klaus Foerster.


I'm always amazed by just how much you can learn thanks to writing.
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I'm always amazed by just how much you can learn thanks to writing.


The amount of stuff I've learned about World War II and physics in the last three days far eclipses what I learned in high school
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The amount of stuff I've learned about World War II and physics in the last three days far eclipses what I learned in high school


I didn't even know the town of Wilno existed until yesterday.
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I didn't even know the town of Wilno existed until yesterday.


Next time I take a history course I'll study for the final by making an RP about it.

Next up: Warlord era China
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Next time I take a history course I'll study for the final by making an RP about it.

Next up: Warlord era China


I am a 0/10 fan of history but if you could get college history credits for writing semi-historically accurate roleplays with great characters and unrealistic but kickass deviations from history I would immediately apply to graduate with a doctorate.
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I am a 0/10 fan of history but if you could get college history credits for writing semi-historically accurate roleplays with great characters and unrealistic but kickass deviations from history I would immediately apply to graduate with a doctorate.


If you could get college credits for putting historical events into a sci-fi/fantasy setting, I would already have a Bachelor's.
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If you could get college credits for putting historical events into a sci-fi/fantasy setting, I would already have a Bachelor's.


What is everyone studying? I'm curious.

I'm going for a bachelors in economics, foreign policy, and potentially minor in CS.
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What is everyone studying? I'm curious.

I'm going for a bachelors in economics, foreign policy, and potentially minor in CS.


I'm not in university yet, but I'm lined up for Biomedical Engineering myself.
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What is everyone studying? I'm curious.

I'm going for a bachelors in economics, foreign policy, and potentially minor in CS.


I'm planning to get a PhD in Being A Worthless Leech That Eats Ramen And Writes Bad Sci-Fi Loosely Based Off Of World War 2.

That is to say, English and History.
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I'm planning to get a PhD in Being A Worthless Leech That Eats Ramen And Writes Bad Sci-Fi Loosely Based Off Of World War 2.

That is to say, English and History.


dude that's the life I wish I had

favorite historical period?
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