@Flagg See the X on the map.

@Flagg See the X on the map.

That's in the super spooky forest and essentially on my border. A border of a city focused on mining and building tunnels

I don't think a massive super-structure of catacombs would go unnoticed.

Wouldn't your city be on the opposite side of the mountain range? I don't know what scale this is in, but it seems like a fair distance.

Wouldn't your city be on the opposite side of the mountain range? I don't know what scale this is in, but it seems like a fair distance.

Well, based on the scale provided there's about 100 miles as the crow flies between us, and I'd see mining could easily be that far out that's only a two day horse ride. Which is well within the City's reach in a setting such as this. I've no problem with your nation! But I'd sort of assumed mining rights and thus it surely wouldn't be missed, yano the giant evil skelton army.

Added My cities location.

Added My cities location.

If you just do it so as you've left Vrent after the second conflict with Abelon, I'll have four ships of the line which could have just sailed your people along the coast and thus removed our current logical distance issue!

Yup, I imagine they could have used that river to sail into the Deeping Ocean. That or we can slice the wasteland forest in half near the bottom. >.>

Yup, I imagine they could have used that river to sail into the Deeping Ocean. That or we can slice the wasteland forest in half near the bottom. >.>

They could just sail from my port straight down to the river Yeodrothan lies on! I'll be on chatzy in a while and we can just throw out the last details and I'll add it to my history.

Although I still agree the forest seems excessively large.

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They could just sail from my port straight down to the river Yeodrothan lies on! I'll be on chatzy in a while and we can just throw out the last details and I'll add it to my history.

Although I still agree the forest seems excessively large.

Specially for just one player, but I'll be adding the details in the PAd later I think. ^^

Seems someone wants that spot already, plus it does make sense to be a little closer to DK. (be nice to me!)

So I have revised my proposition.



Purple is supposed to be forest and swampland. Grey hills. Supposed to have more forest north east of me as well.

Hey everybody, I'm really sorryu but despite my initial enthusiasm, I've unfortunately lost a fair bit of interest in this. The setting did initially catch my interest but now that I've had some more contact with it I just can't muster that previous enthusiasm for it. I don't want to drag things down by forcing myself to write short halfhearted posts so I'm going to have to withdraw.

You can remove Etresna from the map or whatever you want to.

I think I'll be dropping out as well. Enjoy everyone!

Seems someone wants that spot already, plus it does make sense to be a little closer to DK. (be nice to me!)

So I have revised my proposition.



Purple is supposed to be forest and swampland. Grey hills. Supposed to have more forest north east of me as well.

I'm Darkmatter and this is my favourite message on the citadel.

@Flagg See the X on the map.

That's cute, hope you enjoy your neighbors o.~ But seriously, get a PM going with me if that's the spot you want to stick with, I'd like to keep my direct neighbors as informed as possible on the dangers of the forest and what they can expect.

Yup, I imagine they could have used that river to sail into the Deeping Ocean. That or we can slice the wasteland forest in half near the bottom. >.>

Specially for just one player, but I'll be adding the details in the PAd later I think. ^^

Whether you approve of the size of the forest or not, gives you no right to start partitioning it out and cutting pieces off to yourself to repurpose for your own cities.

Khan, if you wanted to work in a portion of that land, and needed proximity to someone or another, and the forest was proving a problem with that, you could have always PM'd me, and the option is still open. I am normally a very flexible person when it comes to accommodating others around me, especially if it would lead to interactions in the IC. That being said, despite being imposed upon like this, I am still open for discourse on the matter, and you can PM me to work something out.

Darkmatter, I'm frankly disappointed in you. To suggest breaking up another player's land like that, without even the GM or affected player present?

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That's cute, hope you enjoy your neighbors o.~ But seriously, get a PM going with me if that's the spot you want to stick with, I'd like to keep my direct neighbors as informed as possible on the dangers of the forest and what they can expect.

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Whether you approve of the size of the forest or not, gives you no right to start partitioning it out and cutting pieces off to yourself to repurpose for your own cities.

Khan, if you wanted to work in a portion of that land, and needed proximity to someone or another, and the forest was proving a problem with that, you could have always PM'd me, and the option is still open. I am normally a very flexible person when it comes to accommodating others around me, especially if it would lead to interactions in the IC. That being said, despite being imposed upon like this, I am still open for discourse on the matter, and you can PM me to work something out.

Darkmatter, I'm frankly disappointed in you. To suggest breaking up another player's land like that, without even the GM or affected player present?

The suggestion was completely meant in a non-insulting manner. It was just that a suggestion. In the OOC, for you and the GM to see that was the point! Nothing we write is 'official' until approved by flagg so I don't see the issue! I think you're taking offence where none was meant, and I can't blame you I often do the same.

However I do have concerns, the forest is massive! It's easily 20-25% of the available isthmus. And it's not even technically a state, it's an area sequestered for your own mythos, which is fine be me, I genuinely thought the space forest concept was cool. Yet, I tried opening dialogue on how the states would interact, and you made it clear it wouldn't be easy, that any interaction with the Dominion would be long, drawn out and a slogfest, to even say 'hello' never mind the deep politicing that people aim for in these RPs.

Khan and I merely theorised and showed an alternative version, where the forest is still massive, but with a few purple patches for Khan. I'm not taking shots here, or saying your nation is lesser in anyway but Khan and I, and others have actively worked on a shared history and would indeed like some level of proximity. And all we did was work on suggestions! We didn't demand from flagg or knock you for it, we suggested!

I think you've taken the wrong tone here, we always intended, and still do, on it being a discussion.

I think the part where I said 'proposition' was missed.

With regards to me doing a map myself:

"I'm going to be resizing everything. Like i said in the OOC it's suggestion, and im just doing it to offer more detail. I am not belittling anyone else's map attempts or flagg's decisions I'm just trying to add help!"

I think the part where I said 'proposition' was missed.

Normally, when your proposition involves removing part of another player's land, you contact them first ;)

To be honest I keep forgetting which player owns the death forest, so to the OOC it goes.

@Capra, @GreivousKhan, @Alfhedil: Sorry for not being around much today. I have a revision of the map in the works, please stand by while I sort everyone's locations out.

Thanks.