For reference on that handsome giant's size(His name is Gough. Hawkeye Gough. Shaken not stirred.), the walls of Windhelm may as well be taller-than-average picket-fences to him. His arrows are made from Archtree wood(more stone than wood, but still) if I recall. Basically, they're big-ol' lances made out of giant stone trees. And his bow is as big as he is, and a single one of his arrows can put a dragon out of commission. If any normal human got hit with one, it'd be nearly impossible to tell if anyone had been in that spot before.

For reference on that handsome giant's size(His name is Gough. Hawkeye Gough. Shaken not stirred.), the walls of Windhelm may as well be taller-than-average picket-fences to him. His arrows are made from Archtree wood(more stone than wood, but still) if I recall. Basically, they're big-ol' lances made out of giant stone trees. And his bow is as big as he is, and a single one of his arrows can put a dragon out of commission. If any normal human got hit with one, it'd be nearly impossible to tell if anyone had been in that spot before.

Even better yet! I'm thinking I'm gonna hold off on this post until our boys on the frontline get behind the wall with those salts. As I really don't want to put Sevine, Leif, or Roze in the position to be obliterated by these monster ass lance-like fuck-off arrows.

The Kamal are archer-deprived. Their means of battle are-

1. Thawing out
2. Fucking
3. Killing
4. Freezing again

As such, their armor is especially savage-looking and heavy, hence why they simply sink to the bottom when they fell into the water. Their only ranged weapons are their ice-spike launchers on their ships. Or if one were to throw their weapon at someone.

And here I am thinking of this guy...

The defenders celebrating a pyrrhic victory, reenactment, 4e205

youtube.com/watch?v=en1uwIzI3SE

The Kamal are archer-deprived. Their means of battle are-

1. Thawing out
2. Fucking
3. Killing
4. Freezing again

Does that mean that there's a possibility of driving them back with sick burns?

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Does that mean that there's a possibility of driving them back with sick burns?

We gotta to roast 'em, bruh

Alright, Tsleeixth joins the battle! Also, sorry if I made any mistakes I wanted to get Tsleeixth up to speed with all that had happened in this post

@Mortarion, I'm sure you're pretty good with the grammar and everything, but that post seems a little rushed. You should tidy it up, lots of run-on sentences and places where you should've put periods and whatnot. I understand you were rushing to get Tsleeixth up to speed, but try to slow it down a bit lest the quality of the post is sacrificed.

A quick tip? You could've cold-opened in the battle, or the very start of it, and left the night's events and his arrival just an afterthought instead of scrambling to address everywhere Tsee's been.

Also, try to slow Tsee down a bit. Jorwen has trouble taking these things down and he's a tower of a man. Tsee puts himself one-on-one with a Kamal and it crushes his hand and punches him in the ribs. If it had landed a blow like that, Tsee would surely be dead, having the wind knocked out of him and stunned by the impact. I illustrated this when White-Eye took a couple punches to his body and he's pretty dead. You would do better to have some of the mercenaries with Tsee overwhelming the Kamal with his help instead of 1v1. Even Jorwen hasn't managed to kill one single-handedly, he'd have been dead without White-Eye's sacrifice and the only reason Sadri killed one by his lonesome was because it was pretty distracted and panicked, unaware of its surroundings.

Even Jorwen hasn't managed to kill one single-handedly, he'd have been dead without White-Eye's sacrifice and the only reason Sadri killed one by his lonesome was because it was pretty distracted and panicked, unaware of its surroundings.

Not to mention the hand chopped in half and the broken knee.

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Not to mention the hand chopped in half and the broken knee.

Yea, those probably helped. Moral of the story is that teamwork makes the dream work.

@Leidenschaft Hmmm, understood. Like you said, yeah, I was a bit rushed to get the Tslee up to speed but thought it wouldn't hurt to include how he ended up there which was probably a mistake on my part.

I'm gonna tweak my post a little bit to include some of your tips like you said if thats ok.

EDIT: Did as you suggested, hope the battle is a bit more believable now. If it isn't, well I'll try and tweak it again if that's ok.

@Mortarion PM

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On Kamal archery, bows exist but they are very rare and serves as specialist equipment. Their mages are several magnitudes numerous than archers, and their ships have more ice launchers than archers. I actually imagine their bows as shortbows rather than longbows. Due to Kamals not producing bows on their own, and whatever they got their hands on are captured from Tang Mos or traded with neighbors. Being the isolationists they are, the latter happens infrequently.

I know what you guys are thinking; Gcold, isn't the bow universal to every culture? Actually, the native Australians never used bows. Instead, they use spear-throwers to achieve comparable effects as the historical bow. Kamals do have regiments of spearmen, and a simple device converting their melee weapon to ranged is far more effective than dedicated missile troops.

The Australian aboriginals also tossed boomerangs. Anyways, @Hyperdrive is Aussie, he should know more about this.

ES lore has near nothing on Kamals, despite them obliterating Windhelm in 2nd era and forced the founding of the Ebonheart Pact. Mysterious Akavir did mention the snow demons' homeland as mountainous and arctic, not exactly favorable conditions for obtaining wood and fletching. Their advances in metallurgy compensates for absentee woodworking.

Here's a theory tracing from Kamals' hypothetical origin, nothing official or proven, just a potential excuse.

@Mortarion PM

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On Kamal archery, bows exist but they are very rare and serves as specialist equipment. Their mages are several magnitudes numerous than archers, and their ships have more ice launchers than archers. I actually imagine their bows as shortbows rather than longbows. Due to Kamals not producing bows on their own, and whatever they got their hands on are captured from Tang Mos or traded with neighbors. Being the isolationists they are, the latter happens infrequently.

I know what you guys are thinking; Gcold, isn't the bow universal to every culture? Actually, the native Australians never used bows. Instead, they use spear-throwers to achieve comparable effects as the historical bow. Kamals do have regiments of spearmen, and a simple device converting their melee weapon to ranged is far more effective than dedicated missile troops.

The Australian aboriginals also tossed boomerangs. Anyways, @Hyperdrive is Aussie, he should know more about this.

ES lore has near nothing on Kamals, despite them obliterating Windhelm in 2nd era and forced the founding of the Ebonheart Pact. Mysterious Akavir did mention the snow demons' homeland as mountainous and arctic, not exactly favorable conditions for obtaining wood and fletching. Their advances in metallurgy compensates for absentee woodworking.

Here's a theory tracing from Kamals' hypothetical origin, nothing official or proven, just a potential excuse.

Theory [+]

One of many unofficial theories on Kamals is that they are actually Snow Elves fleeing Atmoran onslaught. The Snow Elves bargained with a daedric prince (Dagon? Clavicus?) for greater strength, in turn, he took their grace. Now, shrines to Auriel in Dawnguard confer archery benefit, which means the bow is important to Snow Elf military (or at least, symbolic). What if the said prince mutated them into giants, gave them a land with strong ores and in exchange, took away whatever they learned about archery?

Perhaps they have atlatls?

They do.

@Chrononaut You gonna post?

Finishing what I wrote last night, HOLD IT

Edit: DONE but gonna continue into a collab, ME THINKS

Finishing what I wrote last night, HOLD IT

Edit: DONE but gonna continue into a collab, ME THINKS

I'll drag out other cowardly NPCs for the collab.

Will be on Titanpad 2 in a few hours.

Speaking of collabs, anyone would be up to do a collab with me?

I'm on Titanpad 2 and Etherpad.