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Heh, pestilence ridden sounds fun. How many people can claim to have killed more after dying than before? As for fashion... are you sure that you want to be seen wearing that?

Well, plague victims tend to have a very high K/D ratio.

And of course. Anyone shit talks the Pestilence Purse, they get to taste its wrath. Win win, I say.

How else am I supposed to carry my Septims, in a pocket? Absurd.

War and peace.

I am not a medieval military historian, so I'm not sure what soldiers back then went through. In addition, most books detailing pre-gunpowder battles tend to focus on tactics and weapons, not so much on the participants (not the grunts anyways). With that said, a lot of my inspiration came from the experience of modern soldiers. The Things They Carried, by Tim O'Brien, is a great reflection by a veteran. This novel really gets the struggles of a veteran trying to adjust to civilian life, and the comradery he missed.

Eugene Sledge wrote about his journey from WW2 to post-war America in his two novels, and portrayed in HBO's The Pacific. Interesting thing about Sledge was that he distanced himself from the military when he returned; this guy avoided veteran reunions until thirty years later.

As for the combat mentality, Evan Wright's Generation Kill (and the TV series) describes it pretty accurately. I also took pieces of Wright for Madura's character.

Well, plague victims tend to have a very high K/D ratio.

Only if you count teamkills.

As for the combat mentality, Evan Wright's Generation Kill (and the TV series) describes it pretty accurately. I also took pieces of Wright for Madura's character.

This makes me want to see Madura go apeshit and just non-lethally bash through a whole horde of enemies.

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Well, plague victims tend to have a very high K/D ratio.

And of course. Anyone shit talks the Pestilence Purse, they get to taste its wrath. Win win, I say.

How else am I supposed to carry my Septims, in a pocket? Absurd.

Good points again. Though, you'd have to earn some Septims in order for that worry to be valid. So, as mercenaries... I say... get to killing and looting something!

So guys, shall we give Tamrielic mafia a go? My plan is to do it on chat, so its almost real-time and requires very little planning. It should last 20 minutes to 1 hour. We need a total of seven players, excluding the GM, to play.

Oh, that's difficult, what with the multiple timezones.

Thread or PM works too, if we can't get everyone on the same time. Chat just feels more game like than creative writing.

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I am not a medieval military historian, so I'm not sure what soldiers back then went through. In addition, most books detailing pre-gunpowder battles tend to focus on tactics and weapons, not so much on the participants (not the grunts anyways). With that said, a lot of my inspiration came from the experience of modern soldiers. The Things They Carried, by Tim O'Brien, is a great reflection by a veteran. This novel really gets the struggles of a veteran trying to adjust to civilian life, and the comradery he missed.

Eugene Sledge wrote about his journey from WW2 to post-war America in his two novels, and portrayed in HBO's The Pacific. Interesting thing about Sledge was that he distanced himself from the military when he returned; this guy avoided veteran reunions until thirty years later.

As for the combat mentality, Evan Wright's Generation Kill (and the TV series) describes it pretty accurately. I also took pieces of Wright for Madura's character.

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Only if you count teamkills.

There was a French knight who literally wrote the book on Chivalry, IIRC, who had medieval PTSD. I think it was Agincourt he took part in and found himself flinching any time he saw a bird fly in the edge of his vision. The difference between medieval knights and the modern soldier though, is that knights were born and bred for their position as warriors. The closest equivalent to the modern soldier would be the Vietnam draftee and a medieval levy. One of the ways soldiers often avoid psychological disorders or great grief is by talking to their comrades. Medieval soldiers had much more time to do this, and it's been theorized that's how they avoided PTSD. The earliest mention of anything that could be interpreted as PTSD is from a 19th Century text that mentions soldiers' "war fatigue."

Sophocles wrote about a mentally scarred Greek warrior in Ajax. That was like, 400 BC. I think the guy you're talking about is Geoffroi de Charny. Good ol' Jeff gone through some seriously rough shit, like POW'd twice and dissecting an enemy leader and hanging the remains on castle gate.

The crusades must of been pretty scary too. I remember reading something like, 1/3 of all crusaders died before reaching Jerusalem. Not to mention the other joys of expeditionary warfare; diseases, lack of provisions, uncomfortable climates etc.

One thing the knights didn't have was the Geneva Convention. Sure, there's the code of chivalry and everything related to it. But some of the stress a modern soldier faces when causing collateral damage is the social taboo brought on by treaties and conventions signed in recent times. In other words, with no governing laws telling you massacres are wrong, there's less pressure as a whole to be repulsed by it.

Comparing knights and the warfighters of today, I think we have some parallels. Sure, the knight is raised from birth to fight. But the US Army private in Vietnam receives basic training to condition his mentality. Although that's nothing compared to a martial lifestyle, the basic training builds upon the experiences of many generations and is much more condensed. Remember that much of the historical accounts have been lost to time, and for a subject not scientifically investigated until WW1, it is especially prone to be overlooked.

Anyways, we're on a hot topic and not one easy to stomach. After all, we're writing fiction about a fictional, fantasy world. Straying a bit from 100% historical accuracy is perfectly acceptable.

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There was a French knight who literally wrote the book on Chivalry, IIRC, who had medieval PTSD. I think it was Agincourt he took part in and found himself flinching any time he saw a bird fly in the edge of his vision. The difference between medieval knights and the modern soldier though, is that knights were born and bred for their position as warriors. The closest equivalent to the modern soldier would be the Vietnam draftee and a medieval levy. One of the ways soldiers often avoid psychological disorders or great grief is by talking to their comrades. Medieval soldiers had much more time to do this, and it's been theorized that's how they avoided PTSD. The earliest mention of anything that could be interpreted as PTSD is from a 19th Century text that mentions soldiers' "war fatigue."

I've read something about that - like how the baggage train and the march to and from battle was a way to get rid of the stress, by conditioning yourself that you were going to fight or that it was over, and that nowadays the more abrupt change from battle to civilian life makes it harder.

I do, however, remember accounts of knights being unable to sleep, gritting their teeth and crying whenever the sound of metal clanging was heard. So PTSD was probably a thing back then too - I just don't think people could admit it, since there was practically no psychology and it would be seen as pussying out. Hell, it was, and it could be punished by execution during WWI.

@Peik

Well, that was only if they fled in the line of duty, or "deserted". When they were sent home due to physical injury - or after the war ended - , many got diagnosed with Shellshock - their equivalent of PTSD. Sadly, it was only those in the Armed Forces who were eligible for that diagnosis, despite the many ways one could get PTSD.

@MiddleEarthRoze@Frizan Do you guys want to start our collab? I'm going to write one more solo post for Sevine to respond to the situation, so it won't be so lengthy when we start our own, but I can have my post be the transition into the collab, if that makes any sense.

Also, I've started on the Opinion section, but I look to finishing that sometime today. I'm also thinking about writing a snippet of how Sevine acquired her title, like how you explained Cat-Kicker's moniker @gcold, although that won't be at the top of my list of priorities just yet.

@MacabreFox

We can certainly commandeer one of the pads, but I'll be heading to bed real soon. I shall put my post in tomorrow, if you guys are starting it now. :)

@MacabreFox

We can certainly commandeer one of the pads, but I'll be heading to bed real soon. I shall put my post in tomorrow, if you guys are starting it now. :)

If T-Pad #1 isn't occupied, I'll confiscate that one, but like I mentioned above, I'll start my solo response post for Sevine to tie up some loose ends here, before starting that, but I'll let you know when I write in something for the collab. Sweet dreams Rozey-posey (:

@MacabreFox

Haha - hopefully that solo post will involve Sevine attempting to not throttle some more Dawnguard. XD And I do believe T-Pad 1 has been taken over already, so we either fight to the death over it, or just pick one of the others. XD

inb4 Sevine punches a Dawnguard so hard she dents their face plate.

A relatively shorter post than normal, but it ties up the scenario here well.

inb4 Sevine punches a Dawnguard so hard she dents their face plate.

No thank goodness! xD I'll save denting face plates for another time. Hopefully not with the Dawnguard, as Hramon already hates Sevine.

@Frizan@MiddleEarthRoze I'm commandeering T-Pad #2.

@Frizan@MiddleEarthRoze I'm commandeering T-Pad #2.

Aye aye, captain.

I would like to say that I have updated both, Sevine, and Leif's CS's for the Opinion's section. I also added an additional weakness for the both of them, gave Sevine the Hot-Headed weakness, and Leif the Prideful weakness. For those that either of my characters don't know much about, I'd hope to change that very soon (: