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Boy let me tell you. Reading your character sheets was an amazing experience. I am speechless, you get a thumbs up from me.
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@Xmetawolf I'd be happy to do a sesh.
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Since trying out non-lethal combat in the GCL I've actually been inspired to create a new character utilising modern riot gear, there is some surprisingly combat applicable stuff in there that makes for a decent human combatant who can probably take on up to T4s. Pretty interesting stuff as well, I just discovered a type of electrified riot shield that could be incredibly OP, and modern body armour is fairly impressive as well, alongside bean-bag rounds and tactical face masks I imagine the character I'll be left with when I'm done will be a bit of a beast, if relatively non-lethal.

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You should have asked me. There are lots of cool toys for non-lethal crowd control.
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You should have asked me. There are lots of cool toys for non-lethal crowd control.


The research has always been about 60-70% of the fun for me when it comes to making characters, that being said I'm not adverse to checking out some more things if you have some recommendations. At the moment I have the armour, the shield (Nova/Electric riot shield) and a stun baton, I'm still looking for a back-up weapon if electricity is no good and some gadgets or other nasties like grenades.
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TMP Pistol Pepper Ball Pistol-
The semi-automatic design is target accurate to 60 feet and provides area saturation up to 150 feet. Magazine holds 8 PepperBall projectiles and the disposable CO2 cylinder.
Magazine fed design provides rapid reloading and projectile versatility.Designed to accept the Split Shot powder dispersal accessory.

Light Weight Mini-Bang®, Model 7290ML
CTS has added to their innovative line of noise flash diversion devices with the release of the 7290ML; a lighter weight, higher output design that expands on the popular 7290M Mini BangTM. Weighing 267 grams, the 7290ML has light and sound outputs of 4 to 6 million candela and 175 dB, respectively. All CTS flash-bang models release energy from top and bottom vents, a safety feature designed to prevent the device from becoming a dangerous projectile.

The TASER X2 Defender is a projectile weapon that works by firing two electrically charged probes that pierce through the clothes of a target, creating neuromuscular incapacitation (NMI) of the body. The X2 can hold up to two replaceable cartridges, A good close weapon.

Tactical strobe flashlight. I’d recommend the BDRC-HLS Rechargeable (Hi/Lo/Strobe).

Tactical baton or PR-24
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TMP Pistol Pepper Ball Pistol-
The semi-automatic design is target accurate to 60 feet and provides area saturation up to 150 feet. Magazine holds 8 PepperBall projectiles and the disposable CO2 cylinder.
Magazine fed design provides rapid reloading and projectile versatility.Designed to accept the Split Shot powder dispersal accessory.


What exactly is this, is it some kind of high velocity paint-ball gun?

Oh, I see, it works like pepper spray when it lands.
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Yes and yes.
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What would be a good accessory for quick access/holstering of a sawn-off shotgun? Can you use a specific type of holster for it, as it's not particularly big?
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Hmm I wouldn't use a sawed off. I'd use a Saiga with a collapsable stock and a quick sling.
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Hmm I wouldn't use a sawed off. I'd use a Saiga with a collapsable stock and a quick sling.


Can it fire bean-bag rounds? I wasn't sure if they could be magazine fed.

Anyway, I chose the double barrel for balancing reasons pre-dominantly, and because it can be reloaded effectively with one hand while the other holds the riot shield. The character is designed to be overwhelmingly defensive.

(and also because I hoped it could be holstered like a pistol, as my character only has one free hand to work with.)
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Defense is always good with the overwhelming ability to fire downrange. Yes it just loads like a normal shell might need a different barrel though.

You can fire a saiga one handed if need be with a tactical sling
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Defense is always good with the overwhelming ability to fire downrange. Yes it just loads like a normal shell might need a different barrel though.


Indeed, though that's more of an offence is the best defence sort of approach. Needless to say, the tournament I'm intending to use the character in frowns upon firearms in general, the Saiga is almost too effective a weapon, in other words. Even with bean-bags loaded it could pretty effectively stop the majority of characters in their tracks.

It could also be a tad cumbersome to use in one hand, I'd assume (edit: Ninja'd me there, interesting to note the tactical sling though.). That's another reason to use the sawn-off, it's not exactly ideal, but it is of a relatively convenient size for one handed use at a pinch. The defensive nature of this character I'm making is heavily dependant on facing the enemy with a riot-shield in hand. I imagine he'll be quite infuriating to fight.

Something else I noticed from a vid I just watched that seemed to feature a non-lethal Saiga, it suffered a jam after three shots. Obviously something like weapon jamming is under my control, but imagining this in a 'real' situation, a double barrel probably can't suffer that sort of malfunction.
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Ahh well I have recommended the Taurus Judge if you wanted a hand held shotgun but if the tourny is antigun use a sawedoff with a custom rig.
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All guns can jam or misfire. Thats why we clean them incessently lol
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All guns can jam or misfire. Thats why we clean them incessently lol


Indeed, though in this case it seemed as a direct result of the mechanism that ejects the spent cartridges (excuse me, I know basically nothing about guns, not part of my culture) the cartridge basically got stuck, preventing further firing. I don't think the double-barrel has a mechanism like that, it seems fairly simplistic.

I expect that the adjustment to larger bean-bag rounds probably makes jams of that kind more likely.

I did some research and it seems there are plenty of custom sawn-off holsters, so it should be fairly easy for my character to access the weapon and then holster it when he needs to access other gear.
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Yup yup. I want to see him when your done if you don't mind.
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Yup yup. I want to see him when your done if you don't mind.


No problem, I'll probably be putting him in my CS deposit anyway until he needs to be used. Might even do a practice bout or two with him.

He's part of a theme I've been thinking of for a while based around chess pieces, something I have a fascination with. Ten points if you can guess what chess piece he represents.
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@MelonHead, @Skallagrim, @Doc Doctor I'll have all of my posts up tonight once my shift is done.
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No rush! Seriously, I'm drunk today so take your time.
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