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Okay, so the gist of the idea s that we'd be in a world where some sort of glaciation event has changed the literal landscape of the earth thereabouts the year 1770. Something like this. So kinda like The Day After Tomorrow, but with tricorns and muskets.

I understand the science is silly because, you know, not the type to worry about that in RP's, and because it isn't fun for me to think about. If it is too silly we could chalk it up to something supernatural, or we could just not go there altogether.

The context would be that, after this ice-age situation has descended, People living in the north (including most Europeans) are forced to flee to either their colonies or elsewhere. A civilization on the cusp of revolutionary enlightenment would be thrust into a unique semi-apocalyptic setting. I was thinking on starting out with the RP focused in the unfrozen regions of Southern North America, the Caribbean, and South America, since that seems a naturally place for most refugees from Europe to land.

Structurally speaking I was thinking of allowing everybody 1 to 3 perspective characters (you could make up other characters, but you'd have to be nailed to making major decisions from only three perspectives. So, like, if your character visits the King of France, you can't suddenly make all the decisions for the King of France). I'll let people I vet play important or historical people, but that means I'd have to see at least part of a post from that perspective and some evidence you can handle it. Like, I don't want to tell a dude "Yeh you can RP Thomas Jefferson" and find out all you know about the guy was learned from Hamilton.

Anyway, I know it is a bizarre idea, but I've grown attached to its bizareness and I want to do something with it.

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You know what I'm gonna say.


I do?
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I'm down to clown.

Also Hamilton's Jefferson is pretty close to the real guy in a lot of ways.
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I'm down to clown.

Also Hamilton's Jefferson is pretty close to the real guy in a lot of ways.


i don't know that he could rhyme that good
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You got me there. But the same could be said of all the characters in Hamilton and their real life counterparts.

... except Lafayette.
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You got me there. But the same could be said of all the characters in Hamilton and their real life counterparts.

... except Lafayette.


I was kinda under the impression that Lin-Manuel Miranda played himself.
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Interested. I'm thinking either a Hessian that went back to Prussia after the American Revolution or a Natural Philosopher from the Royal Society.
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I'll bump this since it's been a day.
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I know a lot would be in flux due to the fallout of the ice age, but presumably the British Isles would be underwater based on the scenario you posted so the King and his court and the British government would be somewhere in the Americas, right? I ask because I was thinking of doing a Virginia lawyer and fixer among the the first families of the colony/crown.

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I know a lot would be in flux due to the fallout of the ice age, but presumably the British Isles would be underwater based on the scenario you posted so the King and his court and the British government would be somewhere in the Americas, right? I ask because I was thinking of doing a Virginia lawyer and fixer among the the first families of the colony/crown.


The return of large-scale glaciers and such would actually create more land around England. Full-scale glaciation or an ice-age in the supposed scale wouldn't flood anything. Basically: Doggerland would return. A lot of other coastal areas would dry up too as sea-water is sucked up into the slowly growing ice-pack. Realistically this may happen over a long time, but I think for the purpose of this we'll be overlooking it.

Ice can hold more water in volume than it can displace it, or something like that.

But the premise comes with some fun implications, like in Europe the great city-state of Venice would now be a city on a hill and not a city on an island in the middle of a lagoon. And it'd lose its naval ability and have to learn to be a terrestrial force like Piedmont.
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I love the concept. Is it possible to play a monarch or ruler from Europe?
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I know a lot would be in flux due to the fallout of the ice age, but presumably the British Isles would be underwater...


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The return of large-scale glaciers and such would actually create more land around England. Full-scale glaciation or an ice-age in the supposed scale wouldn't flood anything. Basically: Doggerland would return. A lot of other coastal areas would dry up too as sea-water is sucked up into the slowly growing ice-pack. Realistically this may happen over a long time, but I think for the purpose of this we'll be overlooking it.

Ice can hold more water in volume than it can displace it, or something like that.

But the premise comes with some fun implications, like in Europe the great city-state of Venice would now be a city on a hill and not a city on an island in the middle of a lagoon. And it'd lose its naval ability and have to learn to be a terrestrial force like Piedmont.


The area around Britain probably would be exposed like Aaron is saying, but it wouldn't be somewhere you could have a complex agricultural civilization. It'd go perma-frost pretty quick and become either and polar desert, tundra, or even covered in ice.

This is to say that Britain is going to become like this, and the northern part of continental Europe like this

Now, at the time of our RP this biome shift would all be in progress, so Britain would be in the process of becoming a dying land, not dead yet. Also probably won't be as evolved, so we wouldn't necessarily see it affecting as far south on that map. It still does mean that North America in its northern portions will be suffering similarly, and the focus will end up for us in the Southern US, the Caribbean, and Latin America.

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I love the concept. Is it possible to play a monarch or ruler from Europe?


Yes, but I'll have to see some writing sample to show you can handle the material. You could just PM me a paragraph written from the perspective of your chosen character and maybe some thoughts on how you are going to RP them so I know you can handle it.

Also, if this goes forward, I am planning on taking George III as one of my characters.

...and the British government would be somewhere in the Americas, right? I ask because I was thinking of doing a Virginia lawyer and fixer among the the first families of the colony/crown.


Yes. Charleston seems the most likely, since New England will probably be going cold too, and Charleston is the biggest town in the south at that time.
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I'll see to it and try to come up with something. Historically accurate? Or we allowed some freeway here with monarchs?
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Also, if this goes forward, I am planning on taking George III as one of my characters.


This George III, I hope.
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So, the colonies are still technically in place in North America, but the American Revolution is about to happen, or was, based on the political climate back then. Any plans for that?
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I'll see to it and try to come up with something. Historically accurate? Or we allowed some freeway here with monarchs?


I'll give leeway. They just have to make sense for the period, and for the character. I don't believe character building is that precise a science though, so I'm not going to brow beat.

But, like, I don't want somebody playing Thomas Jefferson to sound like Ron Paul, or a European King to sound like a completely modern republic type. That is the biggest thing I'd be worried about is super-cringey anachronisms.

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This George III, I hope.


I'm really wanting to do
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So, the colonies are still technically in place in North America, but the American Revolution is about to happen, or was, based on the political climate back then. Any plans for that?


That's definitely a question, but a more peculiar one in the context of the weather catastrophe and parliament turning up on the colonies doorstep. This is the enlightenment though, the ideas are still there, they are just going to percolate differently in this context. So whereas the colonists arguing about taxation without representation or the distance between London and the new world are going to be presented with a different math, there is the possibility that idealist Republican types might see the flight of the European monarchies as a chance push for change. Exactly how that plays out is part of what we will have to play with.
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If we're going to do legit historical characters then I've got to try Alexander Hamilton.
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Okay, so I might be a Hessian in service to the British Crown, a Royal Society Member, and I'm going to leave the last slot open, just in case.
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Could I play as Maria I of Portugal? I'd get to rule over Brazil in that case.
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