@Wind Wild@Themerlinhawk@Fairess

Contributed. Next. XD

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Ninja'd XD. Go on.

Got my two bits in, finally!

THE SURFACE ISN'T UNEVEN YOU PHILISTINES *EYE TWITCH* you ever looked at a cut wood table top before and looked for pictures in the knots? Lazarus did that by changing its fundamental nature lol.

xD Sorry, but 'cut' totally implies uneven, as you're leaving ruts in the wood. Especially with the whole carving metaphor. If you wanted to imply smoothness, I think what you'd want to go for is pyrography.

THE SURFACE ISN'T UNEVEN YOU PHILISTINES *EYE TWITCH* you ever looked at a cut wood table top before and looked for pictures in the knots? Lazarus did that by changing its fundamental nature lol.

Philistines, eh? Cast ye no stones lest ye be stoned, brosef, that high horse makes a fine target!

On a different note, in the future you might want to allow opportunities for intervention in your posts before reading people's minds. Jasper, for instance, would be hella protected against even cursory mental scanning or manipulation, but you have Lazarus picking things up left and right. I clarified with Wind that it's the standard procedure here to have what's in the post be fair game, but going forward you might keep in mind that Jasper wouldn't be throwing even surface thoughts out into the ether.

If you'd prefer not to rewrite it no worries, I can make up a reason for it, but it would be pretty out of character for him to get read like that.

@Howlerjoking. I can barely stay on a horse. Trust me. My aunts tried. I failed

It's not actually mind reading, it's a combination of aura reading and something akin to microexpression training to the 10th power. Following up on that this guy has been Around the block and plays with kids like Solus Grim who is a god now, his reading works on all of them, Solus, Hazumi, Lucian, The Lords of Hell. That being said i hear you and im hardly about to tell you to shove it. If you'd rather I don't play up that part of the character I can respect that. The point I was trying to make, and I think I did make it, was that he has been out of the world a bit and it is Rude what when he does that and he knows it. So he usually doesnt, you'll see it fade as he gets back to being around people who aren't Shay. So I do think that addresses it since Lazarus has historically been able to read a chimera gone god, a god, multiple Lords of Hell and an of Ark angel. The keep being they all have a physical body so they play by the same rules since again. Not actually mind reading. Which is why it requires mild interaction. Sorry ^^' I'm still getting use to playing with people other than synth and wind for essence.

@Howlerjoking. I can barely stay on a horse. Trust me. My aunts tried. I failed

It's not actually mind reading, it's a combination of aura reading and something akin to microexpression training to the 10th power. Following up on that this guy has been Around the block and plays with kids like Solus Grim who is a god now, his reading works on all of them, Solus, Hazumi, Lucian, The Lords of Hell. That being said i hear you and im hardly about to tell you to shove it. If you'd rather I don't play up that part of the character I can respect that. The point I was trying to make, and I think I did make it, was that he has been out of the world a bit and it is Rude what when he does that and he knows it. So he usually doesnt, you'll see it fade as he gets back to being around people who aren't Shay. So I do think that addresses it since Lazarus has historically been able to read a chimera gone god, a god, multiple Lords of Hell and an of Ark angel. The keep being they all have a physical body so they play by the same rules since again. Not actually mind reading. Which is why it requires mild interaction. Sorry ^^' I'm still getting use to playing with people other than synth and wind for essence.

I need to be explicit: I'm not okay with this. I understand where you're coming from--yes, Lazarus is powerful and his powers of essence reading don't strictly fall under mind reading (even though they do seem to pull direct words from Jasper's thoughts if you look at our current collab). The issue isn't one of whether or not Lazarus's godlike power fits into this roleplay, rather, it's an issue that it does not respect your fellow players. As with Jasper's ability to manipulate other people, it was made explicitly clear that he needed to do so with respect (and implied permission) from other players if he attempted to have Jasper mentally manipulate a player character. According to typical thread rules, no disparity of power should neglect this rule of respect. This means that, even though Roanne would not be able to stop Jasper if he used an ability like Command on her, I still fully expect Howler to ask me if he can control Roanne and go over what will happen to her when Command is used on her. To do otherwise with Command would be stepping over my ability to react and control my character.

Lazarus responding to thoughts and impressions he takes from people, regardless of his god card to do so, is unfair in the same way. I won't suggest that you ask before mentally probing the thoughts of my character or others--I will say that you absolutely should out of respect for those you write with. I offer the same courtesy to everyone I play with and expect the same from others, because infringing on the information a character gives out and the actions they take can ruin the fun and creativity I appreciate most from those same people.

The reason I say this now is because I don't want to run into situations in the future where this becomes an issue. Every player should be able to have a say in what can and can't happen to their character regardless of mechanics.

@Fairess Clearly I've pushed something unintended. My apologies. I shall edit the CS and the collab. My most heartfelt apologies Fairess. I meant no disrespect to you or @Howler.

Edit: my bad. The CS isn't changing. Upon review I need to rewrite. Hopefully this will no longer be a problem.

Edit 2: Problem solved. I think I fixed it in such a manner that no one else has to adjust anything.

@Themerlinhawk
Thanks for patching all that up! I just want to clarify I'm not angry or personally offended--I really appreciate your understanding. I can be a bit of a stickler when it comes to rules and the like.

@Fairess@Themerlinhawk@Howler Hey guys, I'm sorry to see you had a bit of a clash and I hope you're all okay now. I see part of the problem being the lack of official rules, which I'll try to work on ASAP.

That being said I wanted to apologise for this happening. I think the reason is that some of us have been playing together for ages so we knew from experience where the line is without official rules. Essence is an open world and I try to encourage everyone joining to feel some ownership to what surrounds their characters... So the lines of power and authority among players are often blurred.

That said, I don't want anyone to feeling out of place or marginalised which might happen by accident if no ground rules exist so I'll try to work that out. Again, sorry for that and I hope there are no harsh feelings. I have many plans for you all so stick around and start preparing lol.

@Fairess Of course. Though we have a name for your kind in table top circles ;)

(I'm being cheeky I promise)

@Fairess@Themerlinhawk@Wind Wild
Oh my, lookit what I did ma!

Glad we got that all sorted, good job team. Storming accomplished with (hopefully) minimal collateral damage. Similarly, next in the collab!

@Wind Wild Can all out problems go like this? Like always? I like not having to go ten rounds with people just to come to an agreement.

@Fairess@Howler@Caits @Wind Wild

Okay the OOC is quite, time for some fun.

There is your mission. What is your spirit animal and why. Go.

@Themerlinhawk
But this is taking time from my character XD

But.....tiger cause rawr

xD My patronous is a black stallion?

@Caits I was promised a CS quite some time ago lol XD that and I was checking for a pulse from miss cricket.

@Fairess I'll take it

@Themerlinhawk
I swear it's nearly done but I had some trouble with a role player yesterday that kinda left me feeling like crap, and motivation gone. She'll be up tonight I swear to god. Within 12-14 hours