If anything, I'm seeing a sort of "Pacific Pivot" coming back to conventional warfare as opposed to low-intensity operations (although those still have a place), meaning that in addition to LCSs, LPDs, and the small Virginia-class submarines we're going to be seeing a possible resurgence in some of the larger ships like cruisers and whatnot.

Basically Gunther is worried that we have a lack of anti submarine capabilities along with a lack of anti air. On the contrary if we have 2-3 carriers, 2 submarines, 1 multi-role, 1 guided missile destroyer and 1 still in the works; I'm sure our fleet will be sufficient. If I read the posts correctly.

Well, submarines can destroy other submarines, but still, can we have multiple ships?

Wernher said
Well, submarines can destroy other submarines, but still, can we have multiple ships?

What I was going to say. Especially since my sub will be an Attack Sub, thus giving a sort of a multi-role position XD
And having multiple ships would be cool. But running the crew on board the ships would be hellish. Since running one ships crew is hell enough in a combat scenario XD

|Ship Name: USS Navassa Island
|Ship Class: Battlecruiser
|Ship Hull Classification Symbol: CB-4
|Ship Role: Heavy battlegroup escort, strike force vessel leader
|Armament:
- 1x BAE 90mm railgun
- 4x 5"/54 (Mk. 21 family) naval guns
- 140x VLS tubes
- 4x Mk. 30 launchers
- 4x Phalanx-C CIWS
- 2x RAM launchers
- 6x Mk. 40 torpedo launchers
- 4x M242 25mm cannons
- 2x LaWS
|Aircraft:
- 1x V-22 Osprey
- 2x MH-60S Seahawk
- 4x MQ-8 Fire Scout
- 2x ScanEagle
|Boats:
- 4x RHIBs
- 2x Fleet USVs
|Dimensions:
- Length: 927 ft 9 in
- Beam: 152 ft 6 in
- Draft: 42 ft (mean), 50 ft 3 in (maximum)
|Speed: 45 kn maximum, 30 kn cruising
|Crew: 789 (73 officers, 716 enlisted)
|Motto: Freedom through Dominance
|Other: Designed in anticipation of conventional conflicts with powers in the Pacific, the Navassa Island is an experimental "large cruiser" that focuses on using overwhelming firepower to defeat increasingly-advanced vessels from, say, China. The resurgence of naval guns reflects a new shift to frugality in the Navy, using gunfire support as opposed to expensive Tomahawk missile strikes (even if the ability is still found on the ship.) As such, sensors and countermeasures are considered to be top-notch to counter new and anticipated designs from foreign nations. The Navassa Island's primary focus of strike group command allows it to lead a flotilla to engage and destroy enemy targets in extreme offensive measures, while its armament suffices for carrier group escort as well.

I'll get to the rest later, maybe with schematics to go with the app.

Wernher said
Well, submarines can destroy other submarines, but still, can we have multiple ships?

Submarines are best at Anti Surface Warfare and Strategic Missile launches. Yes, they can hunt and engage other submerged submarines, but it is not their primary role. They are ship killers. Destroyers and Frigates serve the role of hunting and killing submarines more efficiently. Besides, submerged boats are slower than surface ships.

Gunther said
Submarines are best at Anti Surface Warfare and Strategic Missile launches. Yes, they can hunt and engage other submerged submarines, but it is not their primary role. They are ship killers. Destroyers and Frigates serve the role of hunting and killing submarines more efficiently. Besides, submerged boats are slower than surface ships.

That logic is valid for ships that use batteries to power their engines when submerged (ie U-Boat VII and variants without a Snorkel) where the batteries have less output than the diesels when surfaced.

However, in modern times, where submarines are powered by engines that can run in both states (surfaced and submerged) they either loose a few knots, or even go faster submerged than surfaced. As well as being engineered to be hydrodynamic when submerged

|Ship Name: USS Lyndon Baines Johnson
|Ship Class: Zumwalt Class
|Ship Hull Classification Symbol: DDG
|Ship Role: Multi-Role ASW/ASuW/AAW
|Armament:
20x MK-57 VLS Modules , with 4 vertical launch cells in each module, 80 cells total. Each cell can hold one or more missiles, depending on the size of the missiles.
RIM-162 Evolved Sea Sparrow Missiles (ESSM), 4 per cell
Tactical Tomahawk, 1 per cell
Vertical Launch Anti-Submarine Rocket (ASROC) 1 per cell
2x 155mm/62 caliber Advanced Gun System 920x155mm rounds; 600 in automated store + Auxiliary store room with up to 320 rounds (non-automatic) & 70-100 LRLAP rounds)
2x Mk110 57mm gun (CIWS)

|Aircraft Carried: 1x MH-60R helicopter
3x MQ-8 Fire Scout VT-UAVs
|Aviation Facilities: Flight deck and enclosed hangar for up to two medium lift helicopters.

|Dimensions:
Displacement: 14,798 Tons
Length: 600 ft. (180 m)
Beam: 80.7 ft. (24.6 m)
Draft: 27.6 ft. (8.4 m)

|Speed: Greater than 30 Knots (56 kmh/35 mph)
|Crew: 140
|Motto: None
|Other: Maiden Voyage

|Captain's Name: Commander Hank Matthews
+Appearance: Hank is 6' 2" tall with light brown skin and weighs 210 Lbs. He keeps his hair very short, starting to recede at the peeks. Hank has dark brown eyes and keeps his face clean shaven.
+Personality: Hank is a laid back commander who takes care of his crew to insure they are prepared to carry out the mission. He is a fair commander, but occasionally gets too close to the sailors.
+Bio: Hank Mathews is from Seattle, WA. He graduated from the United States Naval Academy in 1996. Following initial training at the Surface Warfare Officer’s School Division Officers Course in Newport, RI, he was assigned to USS NORMANDY (CG 60) based in Norfolk, VA and served as First Lieutenant and Anti-Submarine Warfare Officer. His second Division Officer assignment was onboard USS DEYO (DD 989) also based in Norfolk, VA, as the Auxiliaries and Electrical Officer.

After further training at the Surface Warfare Officers School, Commander Matthews served in USS HAWES (FFG 53) as the Engineer Officer, followed by assignment as the Pre-Commissioning Staff Materiel Officer for Riverine Group One in 2006.

Ashore, Commander Matthews attended the Naval Post Graduate School in Monterey, CA, and graduated with a Master of Arts Degree in National Security Affairs in 2003. He served in the International Engagement Division of Chief of Naval Operations Staff as the Northern Europe/NATO Action Officer from 2007 to 2009. He then served as a contingency planner at US Northern Command’s Joint Force Headquarters - National Capital Region from 2009 to 2011. Commander Matthews most recently served as Executive Officer in USS Lyndon Baines Johnson (DDG 1002).

Commander Matthews has been awarded the Defense Meritorious Service Medal, Meritorious Service Medal, the Navy/Marine Corps Commendation Medal (two awards), the Navy/Marine Corps Achievement Medal (two awards) and the French Medal for National Defense (Gold Echelon).

|Name: Carl Grimes
+Rank: Commander
+Role: Executive Officer
+Appearance: Carl Grimes stands 5' 9" and weighs 180 Lbs. He has short red hair and blue eyes, with many freckles on his face.
+Personality: Carl is difficult to pin down sometimes. He vacillates in his decision making and this has been reflected on his OERs. HE is a fun guy to hang out with and knows all the best party places in every port.
+Bio: Commander Carl Grimes graduated from the United States Naval Academy in 1995 earning a Bachelor of Science in Chemistry. His initial sea assignment after graduation was a split tour as Damage Control Assistant and then Assistant Operations Officer in USS MILIUS (DDG-69) in San Diego, California where he was part of the ship’s maiden deployment. Commander Grimes’ follow on assignment was to Department Head School, in Newport Rhode Island.

Upon completion of Department Head School, Commander Grimes was assigned to Precommisioning crew in USS McCAMPBELL (DDG-85), Bath, Maine built and stationed in San Diego, California. Here he served as Operations Officer during building and manning of the ship, initial Sea Qualifications and subsequent deployment work-ups for Counter Drug Operations. Commander Grimes then reported to the staff of COMMANDER DESTROYER SQUADRON TWENTY-ONE as Operations/Plans Officer, completing a 3rd/7th Fleet Deployment aboard USS JOHN C STENNIS (CVN-74) in support of Operation Northern Edge, RIMPAC 2004, JASEX, and various multi National Exercises.

Commander Grimes earned his Master’s Degree in National Security and Strategic Studies from the U.S. Naval War College, in Newport Rhode Island. Upon graduation he remained at the college as a member of the Naval Operational Planner Course, subsequently earning a designation as a Joint Operational Planner.

Commander Grimes' follow on assignment was to the staff of Commander North American Aerospace Defense Command and United States Northern Command, J-5 Plans, Policy and Strategy Directorate, in Colorado Springs, Colorado. Assigned as a lead strategic planner, Commander Grimes, conducted numerous Defense Support to Civil Authorities (DSCA) planning events, to include Hurricane, Wildfire and Winter storm support, pandemic preparedness and Inauguration Day support.

Commander Grimes then reported to the staff of Commander, Combined Maritime Forces, U.S. Naval Forces Central Command and Commander U.S. Fifth Fleet, Manama Bahrain as the Deputy Director for Plans, supporting Maritime Security Operations, Counter-Piracy operations and Operations Enduring Freedom and Iraqi Freedom.

Commander Grimes' last assignment was as Executive Officer in USS Lyndon Baines Johnson (DDG-1002).

|Name: Tyler Acheson
+Rank Master Chief Petty Officer
+Role: Command Master Chief (Chief of the Boat) COB
+Appearance: Master Chief Acheson is 5' 11" tall and weighs 195 Lbs. He wears short brown hair and has blue eyes.
+Personality: Master Chief Acheson is a no nonsense NCO who insures his men are taken care of. If his sailors are doing their job properly, he will support them completely.
+Bio: Command Master Chief Tyler Acheson enlisted in 1994 in Houston, TX. He attended Recruit Training in Great Lakes, Illinois and STG “A” School in San Diego, CA.

His first sea duty assignment was USS RODNEY M DAVIS (FFG 60), in Yokosuka, Japan. His other assignments include Naval Ocean Processing Facility Whidbey Island, WA, USS MCFAUL (DDG 74), USS JOHN S MCCAIN (DDG 56), USS LASSEN (DDG 82) and Navy Military Police Guard Battalion, Parwan, Afghanistan.

He is a graduate of the Navy Senior Enlisted Academy and Command Master Chief/ Chief of the Boat Course in Newport, RI. Master Chief McCown reported in October 2013 as Command Master Chief in USS Lyndon Baines Johnson (DDG 1002).

Master Chief Acheson’s personal awards include the Meritorious Service Medal, Navy and Marine Corps Commendation Medal, Navy and Marine Corps Achievement Medal (five awards), Enlisted Surface Warfare Insignia, Enlisted Information Dominance Warfare Insignia and numerous campaign awards.

Slypheed said
That logic is valid for ships that use batteries to power their engines when submerged (ie U-Boat VII and variants without a Snorkel) where the batteries have less output than the diesels when surfaced. However, in modern times, where submarines are powered by engines that can run in both states (surfaced and submerged) they either loose a few knots, or even go faster submerged than surfaced. As well as being engineered to be hydrodynamic when submerged

We don't use diesels anymore, so US subs are 100% nuke. And yeah, they're designed to go fast underwater. You're correct.

TheEvanCat said
We don't use diesels anymore

Tis why I mentioned a WW2 sub in my example XD

So Gunther, is this a replacement or will you run 2 subs?

Slypheed said
Tis why I mentioned a WW2 sub in my example XD

Ukraine uses them! :P

Wernher said
So Gunther, is this a replacement or will you run 2 subs?

I thought he was running two surface ships o 3o

TheEvanCat said
Ukraine uses them! :P

I bet they do XD

Slypheed said
I thought he was running two surface ships o 3oI bet they do XD

oups, just tired, sorry.

Wernher said
oups, just tired, sorry.

Go sleeps :P
Also, here my ship + crew

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|Ship Name: USS Fenrir
|Ship Class: Fortknight-Class Cruiser (Trimaran class hull)
|Ship Hull Classification Symbol: CGN-I
|Ship Role: Guided Missile Cruiser
|Armament:
x1: 5in/56 cal Advanced Gun System
x68 Missile Pods (2 Cruise Missiles/4 Anti-Air/3 Anti-ship/2 Anti-Sub missiles per cell.)
x8 Mission Variable CIWS/SeaWIS Mounts
x8 50mm RACs (Remote Auto-Cannons)
x2 in 12.75in Torpedo Tubes
x2 Triple-Torpedo Mounts (internal bay)
x4 25mm Crew-Operated Machine Guns
x4 .50-caliber Crew-Operated Machine Guns (Not depicted)
x2 40mm Crew-Operated Grenade Launchers
|Aircraft:
1x UH-60 Seahawk (Sitting Externally)
1x F35B
1x AW159
|Vehicles:
4x RHIBs
|Dimensions:
Length - 607ft
Beam - 119ft
Draft - 18ft
|Speed: 44 knots Full, 19 knots Cruising
|Crew: 275 Enlisted, 23 Officers.
|Motto: Veni Vidi Vici (I came I saw I conquered)
|Other: 1st of its class built. Everyone on the ship who is at or above the rank of MCPO (Master Chief Petty Officer) goes by a first name basis
Has 4 Vari-Directional Jet Impellers (Azipods) along with two fixed Impellers to maintain speed for the maneuvers that the Azipods allow for.
The helipads of the Fortknight are placed in front of the superstructure around them to reduce airflow disturbances to allow for recovery of aircraft in higher than usual sea-states.
Has hanger space for 2 helicopters/VTOL, and an addition 2 can sit externally on the helipads. And has space for 2 Marine/Special Forces Platoons.

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I have a recap of all the submitted ships thusfar to include Air Assets and Marine units. I converted any Roman Numerals I found to the standard alpha numeric system in use today. I appreciate Slypheed's integration of a British Helo onto an American vessel. Why not? :)

USS John F. Kennedy (CVN-67)
64x F-35C
4x E-2 Hawkeye (Early Airborne Warning)
4x MH-60R Seahawk (SAR)
8x MH-60F Seahawk (ASW)

USS Wyvern (LCS-15)
1x F-35B
2x RAH-66 Comanche
4x MQ-8 Fire Scout

USS Tripoli (LHA-7)
6x F-35B Lightning II
12x MV-22B Osprey
4x CH-53K Super Stallion Helicopters
6x AH-1Z Viper
2x MH-60S Knighthawk
23rd Marine Expeditionary Unit (MEU) 1,687 Marines

USS Leviathan (SSBN-10)

USS America (LHA-6)
6x F-35B Lightning II
12x MV-22B Osprey
4x CH-53K Super Stallion Helicopters
6x AH-1Z Viper
2x MH-60S Knighthawk
25th Marine Expeditionary Unit (MEU) 1,687 Marines

USS Navassa Island (BC-4)
1x MV-22B Osprey
2x MH-60S Knighthawk
4x MQ-8 Fire Scout
2x ScanEagle (Could potentially have several more of these.)

USS Lyndon B. Johnson (DDG-1002)
1x MH-60R helicopter
3x 4x MQ-8 Fire Scout VT-UAVs

USS Fenrir (CGN-1]
1x MH-60R helicopter
1x F-35B Lightning II
1x AW159 Wildcat (US ship with a British Helo.) =D

Id say this is a decent fleet. Just my opinion. Now we wait for the fleet intro in the IC?

I was thinking maybe that Carrier Wing could use an EW platform, but it really doesn't matter. I'm sure there are F35 variants with EW packages or quite possibly it is built right into the A/B/C models, as technology has increased so rapidly over the years.

I can only assume by EW you mean Electronic Warfare?