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I honestly have some of the same concerns.
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fair concerns. I was struggling a bit with the actual transition. I'll work on changing your points later today. thanks!
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fair concerns. I was struggling a bit with the actual transition. I'll work on changing your points later today. thanks!


No problem! I look forward to seeing the revised character! ( ^_^)b
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I updated Lizzie's character sheet. Let me know...?
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I updated Lizzie's character sheet. Let me know...?


Looks much better! You may place her in the Characters Tab!

Just a note: Her ability to make people forget her existence or to manipulate their memories to forget her, or events, in which she's involved in will be most successful on regular humans. As for other supernaturals, as well as hunters, this compel ability will be much more difficult to perform since it is a pretty strong skill.


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Alrighty~! I'm loving all the introduction posts and I'm thinking about moving forward with the roleplay either tonight or tomorrow to begin a new round of posting, BUT I do want to discuss a topic that was brought up before.

The question being: How powerful is a werewolf/vampire's regeneration?

I've read sources that werewolves can regenerate, at least, 10x faster than the rate of a human can, with minimal to no scarring. For vampires, I'm assuming that it's going to be much weaker than a werewolf's, but through the process of feeding, it can speed up. I'm curious to see if anybody is okay with this idea or has any input!

More questions: Can a vampire resistant another vampire's compel? How much can a supernatural resist the vampire's compel?

I've spoke to my co-gm's and we've come to the conclusion that physical fortitude would not be a major factor when it comes to resistance, but moreover, the willpower of the individual being compelled will be the leading factor. Those that know vampires and know the supernatural realm will understand the compel of a vampire. I do want to allow the supernatural races to have a natural resistance to the ability, but I don't want to completely under-power hunters, though they will always be at a disadvantage when it comes to their lack of racial abilities.
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I suppose it would depend on what lore we choose to follow. It stands to reason though that vampires would regenerate faster while feeding or immediately after they've fed. As for the Weres, from what I've read that included Werewolves they all seamed to heal faster while shifted and slower in their human form, but still faster than normal humans.

I do believe in Blaine's sheet it is stated she lacks the resistance to vampiric compulsion. I think at the time I meant it to be discovered it was some sort of hex or a charm placed on her, or something connected to her turning. Also, to know and understand something doesn't make you immune to it. Although they do say forewarned, forearmed. So I suppose it would depend on the strength of will and mind to try to fight the compulsion, rather then resist or negate it outright.

And lets not forget human ingenuity is never to be underestimated, tis why we, as a species, are placed on the top of the animal food chain. Otherwise we don't stand a snowballs chance in hell against a great white for instance. So the hunters might very well have devised a way to be protected against compulsion if they've studied it's mechanics long enough. It's, at least, something to be considered.
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When it comes to Hunters, I also figure it comes down greatly to how they were trained, which Lodge/Family they are part of and what they hunt, as well as raw willpower. A combination of that would make individuals more or less resistant to the compel ability, perhaps even some witch/voodoo hexes. Genevieve doesn't have any proper Hunter training beyond some cursory lessons, and is not affiliated with any Lodges, so she leans heavily on her military background. Someone like Alden or Maximus with proper training and equipment would start out with the knowledge of how to combat such things, so they have an innate advantage before any non-Hunter training comes into play. All three of them have their own resistances and techniques, probably quite capable of fending off a younger Vampire's compel and mid-range ones if they are aware of them. Can't speak for Monacho or PrincePierce, but I've put down Genevieve as quite resistant to the compel in her own way, up to an Elder. That's largely due to her training and a mental technique that she uses when she feels it coming over her.

On Regeneration, I do think that Were's should have the stronger side of that ability. Most fiction describes them as essentially living tanks, able to take excessive amounts of damage and recover from it in relatively short periods of time. It's why we thought it appropriate for Blaine to have largely healed from the silver bullet she took in the battle in the forest, though still somewhat limping. A normal person would have sustained serious injury if untreated, and might still be recovering in the hospital if they were shot like that. Rolling with a factor of ten might be a tad excessive, but since we've already discussed them being able to regrow limbs, it might not be lol. Definitely agreeing on the point of regen being stronger while shifted though, maybe even to the point where injuries sustained in human form might still leave scars?
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I suppose it would depend on what lore we choose to follow. It stands to reason though that vampires would regenerate faster while feeding or immediately after they've fed. As for the Weres, from what I've read that included Werewolves they all seamed to heal faster while shifted and slower in their human form, but still faster than normal humans.

I do believe in Blaine's sheet it is stated she lacks the resistance to vampiric compulsion. I think at the time I meant it to be discovered it was some sort of hex or a charm placed on her, or something connected to her turning. Also, to know and understand something doesn't make you immune to it. Although they do say forewarned, forearmed. So I suppose it would depend on the strength of will and mind to try to fight the compulsion, rather then resist or negate it outright.

And lets not forget human ingenuity is never to be underestimated, tis why we, as a species, are placed on the top of the animal food chain. Otherwise we don't stand a snowballs chance in hell against a great white for instance. So the hunters might very well have devised a way to be protected against compulsion if they've studied it's mechanics long enough. It's, at least, something to be considered.


I never mentioned anything about immunity, but if you can go back and find somewhere that I did -- go for it!

But yes, I agree. Forewarned, forearmed. But, I'm confused by the end of the post. I do agree that any trained hunter should be more resistant to a vampire's compel from devising ways of resistance in such instances, but when you speak of human ingenuity, are you saying that humans, in general, should be capable of resisting a great deal?
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@Lionhearted No you didn't say immunity, true, I did I was just covering all my bases in sharing my thoughts on the subject.

As for the human ingenuity... Since the average human wouldn't know about the existence of supernaturals and vampires, they wouldn't need to engage their ingenuity to devise ways to be resistant or, yes, even immune to the vampiric compulsion.

I meant that for the hunters... Even if they do not have racial abilities they can effectively rely on their ingenuity to level the playing field.
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As far as I know, Vampires can compel any species...unless the other supernaturals have protection against it. As for Vampires compelling another Vampire..I am not sure if that's possible, unless the Vampire compelling is much much older and stronger, than the Vampire it's trying to use mind compulsion on.
I am not sure, if they'd have a natural ability to resist to it though. Not unless they somehow build up some kind of tolerance/resistance against that kind of magic...or have protection against it...as stated above. :)

But that's just my take and my knowledge on the subject of compulsion. It may vary from other sources, for other people; depending on what they've read, or seen ect.
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Compelling: I think I'll finalize it in that hunters with training have a great deal of resistance to the vampire's compel, some even being able to overcome it depending on how rigorous their training was and how much experience they have. Granted, an elder vampire whom is skilled with compelling would offer a more challenging match. I think I'll eliminate all physical fortitude with this, leaving it based on the willpower of the individual -- sort of like a mind battle? Though, I do agree in forewarned, forearmed. So people that know of the ability or, at least, have experienced it, will generate resistance towards it. So excessive use on the same individual would be unwise. To add to this, a vampire that compels an individual that offers known resistance will help suggest that the individual has experienced a vampire's compel before, the amount of experience depending on their amount of resistance. Or maybe the individual just has good willpower? Not sure on this.

Regeneration: Werewolves will have stronger regeneration than all other supernatural species, which helps add to their 'tank' title. Their regeneration is stronger in their werewolf form, but their regeneration is still strong in their human form. Scarring is very rare since their regeneration is quick. Their blood loss is also minimal since their blood will clot at a very fast rate. If you strike a werewolf with silver, their regeneration on the given area will be weakened a substantial amount, and would be more prone to scarring, depending on the severity of the wound. Werewolves are capable of regenerating missing limbs, but this rate would, of course, be slow.

Example: A minor cut would heal completely in a matter of minutes. A gunshot that doesn't penetrate through vital organs should heal within a day. When vital organs are injured, the werewolf is still capable of regenerating, but at a slower rate. When affected by silver, the rate of healing will be similar to that of a human.

Vampires will have strong regeneration, and this will be heightened through feeding. Vampires are capable of entering long slumbers to recover from severe injuries/poisons/toxins.

Example: A minor cut would heal within a day. A gunshot that doesn't penetrate through vital organs should heal within a week when feeding at a regular rate. When a vital organ is injured, they'll be weakened substantially and they'll be required to fall into a slumber in which their body can focus on healing, only to awake thirsting for a great deal of blood. The length of their slumber depends on the severity of the injury.
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I've posted with a change in setting!


Although abrupt, I want to further advance within the plot as I'm seeing that the character interaction is very little right now. So I think this added push will be fun!
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@Lionhearted now I wish I had waited to post -_- haha oh well I will just have to wait a bit more
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@Kitty I figured as Kat is not much for bonding within the pack, Blaine's telepathic link with her pack won't work with Kat as it requires a certain closeness and familiarity.
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@Kitty I figured as Kat is not much for bonding within the pack, Blaine's telepathic link with her pack won't work with Kat as it requires a certain closeness and familiarity.


I was thinking the same thing, it would make a lot more sense with her character to not have her be able to have a telepathic link until later on when she eventually gets closer to the pack.
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Notice for everyone:

Tomorrow, late in the evening. My gran is arriving and she will be staying for 3 weeks. Due to that and Christmas ect...replies here will be rather slow. I'll do my best to keep up,but if it takes me a while to catch up...or I might not seen for a little bit, real life/holidays is the reason why.
I am not leaving the rp :) but if I am slower over the next 3 weeks, please bare with me.


Also, feeling a bit stuck for Vivienne's response...if anyone's got any ideas/suggestions...I am all ears.
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Just checking on you guys to see what your post status is~! I believe we're waiting on posts from all of ya'll in order to get some other posts rolling along.
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The latest I should have a post up is tomorrorw, but I'm going to try my hardest to crank one out within the next hours.
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@Monacho Awesome! Ihinka and I are getting ready to post up our collab we've been working on, so it's up to you if you want to wait for that or go ahead and post.
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@WolfLover, @Polaris North William, Devin and Volber would be able to receive all of Blaine's telegraphs in the collab marked in italic and surrounded with "". Even if not specifically addressed at them. @Kitty And Kat would probably feel some sort of energy off the Alpha as is the nature of pack animals.

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